Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot Act
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RE: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
I think that coalition should be worrying about Patriot Act 2 Its far more draconian than the first one.
I think that coalition should be worrying about Patriot Act 2 Its far more draconian than the first one.
Re: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
Yeah...1776 to 1811, inclusive... :lol:
Yeah...1776 to 1811, inclusive... :lol:
Re: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
The fact that anti-Americans and terrorists exist is the reason why we need this act. You guys think the act had destoryed democracy in this country? Then how come the American Civil Liberties Union (the most vocal opponent) in 2003 when asked to provide example of abuse under the act couldn't provide any? The fact that these organizations that oppose the law still exist is all the more proof that democracy is still alive and sound in this country.
Now for Canada on the other hand...
The fact that anti-Americans and terrorists exist is the reason why we need this act. You guys think the act had destoryed democracy in this country? Then how come the American Civil Liberties Union (the most vocal opponent) in 2003 when asked to provide example of abuse under the act couldn't provide any? The fact that these organizations that oppose the law still exist is all the more proof that democracy is still alive and sound in this country.
Now for Canada on the other hand...
Re: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
Last time I checked, I was in Canada. The fact that I'm on one of Georgie's official enemies lists supports that.
Tracking who read's what book would be an example. Racial and religious profiling would be another. Suspension of legal rights are yet another. The ACLU provided all of those as examples.
Last time I checked, I was in Canada. The fact that I'm on one of Georgie's official enemies lists supports that.
Tracking who read's what book would be an example. Racial and religious profiling would be another. Suspension of legal rights are yet another. The ACLU provided all of those as examples.
RE: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
Are you really on Bushes list too Rev?
Are you really on Bushes list too Rev?
RE: Coalition of Left and
I haven't checked lately, but I assume I'm still on it. That raises the question of how many others have made it onto such lists.
The thing is that technology allows them to put a lot of people on those lists though. It was bizarre when Nixon banned Farley Mowatt, but you had to be at least as famous as him to make a list because the technology wasn't there to keep track of everybody. Now they can put anybody on a list and they border guards can find it by pushing a button.
I haven't checked lately, but I assume I'm still on it. That raises the question of how many others have made it onto such lists.
The thing is that technology allows them to put a lot of people on those lists though. It was bizarre when Nixon banned Farley Mowatt, but you had to be at least as famous as him to make a list because the technology wasn't there to keep track of everybody. Now they can put anybody on a list and they border guards can find it by pushing a button.
RE: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
Where does one go to see ig they're on such a list?
Where does one go to see ig they're on such a list?
RE: Coalition of Left and
I found out by accident when I was looking into getting a pardon for an ancient drunk driving charge. Not much point in getting a pardon at that point.
I'm guessing most people find out at the border though. I know that a lot of people found out they were on no-fly lists when they were headed to Florida to protest the money-nazi convention there about a year ago. Most of them were American citizens with no ties to terrorism whatsoever.
I found out by accident when I was looking into getting a pardon for an ancient drunk driving charge. Not much point in getting a pardon at that point.
I'm guessing most people find out at the border though. I know that a lot of people found out they were on no-fly lists when they were headed to Florida to protest the money-nazi convention there about a year ago. Most of them were American citizens with no ties to terrorism whatsoever.
Re: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
Yes I do.
I also believe the American Government brings a lot of problems on themselves, by interfering where they shouldn't be.
alienofwar said:
Yes I do.
I also believe the American Government brings a lot of problems on themselves, by interfering where they shouldn't be.
RE: Coalition of Left and Right to Oppose Parts of Patriot A
The patriot act and electronic voting machines have done more to destroy democracy in your country than anything else Alien,except maybe Bush and Cheney
The patriot act and electronic voting machines have done more to destroy democracy in your country than anything else Alien,except maybe Bush and Cheney