http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032105B.shtml
...when is the International community going to hold these clowns accountable???
...when is the International community going to hold these clowns accountable???
US Guilty of Starting Not One, but Three Illegal Wars
- Thread starter Vanni Fucci
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Andem said:
I've said it before though Andem, that may have been true in the past, but with the global communications network that the average person has access to these days, it is far more difficult to keep people in the dark about the issues that the administration would like to keep hidden...
While history may still be written by the victor, there will be people all over the world that will challenge the official story, and keep asking questions...
However, in my opinion there have been far too many smoking guns for the international community to remain apathetic...the world needs to act to prevent further attrocities...
RE: US Guilty of Starting
I don't think you'll see them on trial, Vanni. I do think that they will find that their influence is severely restricted in the future though. The international community is slowly going to shut them down...no cooperation, not much help when the US economy fails. People have had enough.
I don't think you'll see them on trial, Vanni. I do think that they will find that their influence is severely restricted in the future though. The international community is slowly going to shut them down...no cooperation, not much help when the US economy fails. People have had enough.
I agree that it would be difficult to get anything to stick to these guys...especially when we see...
This...
in repsonse
...to this!
I can't believe how these cowboys are able to change the rules every time someone tries to call them on their bullshit...
This...
in repsonse
...to this!
I can't believe how these cowboys are able to change the rules every time someone tries to call them on their bullshit...
RE: US Guilty of Starting
I think America is guilty of starting more than 3 illegal wars/conflicts in the world.
I think America is guilty of starting more than 3 illegal wars/conflicts in the world.
RE: US Guilty of Starting
That's just for the last two presidents, No 1. You have to go back to....lemmee see, George I had Iraq I, Reagan had the Contras...Carter was clean, I think. Before him there was Ford, who never had time to start an illegal war, then there was Nixon who never met a law, foreign or domestic, he didn't feel he was above. There was Johnson, who lied to officially start the illegal war in Vietnam. There was Kennedy who tried to illegally invade Cuba.
Really not a very good record there, is there? Do they load 'em up on PCP the second they walk into the White House or what?
That's just for the last two presidents, No 1. You have to go back to....lemmee see, George I had Iraq I, Reagan had the Contras...Carter was clean, I think. Before him there was Ford, who never had time to start an illegal war, then there was Nixon who never met a law, foreign or domestic, he didn't feel he was above. There was Johnson, who lied to officially start the illegal war in Vietnam. There was Kennedy who tried to illegally invade Cuba.
Really not a very good record there, is there? Do they load 'em up on PCP the second they walk into the White House or what?
Re: RE: US Guilty of Starting Not One, but Three Illegal War
Who's debating...there is no debate here...the US has, since the end of WWII been known to take unilateral action in violation of international accords to which they are party...
Being a member state of the UN carries with it certain obligations that the US has never taken very seriously, even though they signed off on them...
Jay said:
Who's debating...there is no debate here...the US has, since the end of WWII been known to take unilateral action in violation of international accords to which they are party...
Being a member state of the UN carries with it certain obligations that the US has never taken very seriously, even though they signed off on them...
Re: RE: US Guilty of Starting
...one could also include all the covert activity which financially and militarily overthrew governments since the end of WWII. OF course there was quite a bit of activity on the part of the usmc "trading post guards" in the teens and 20s...
Reverend Blair said:
...one could also include all the covert activity which financially and militarily overthrew governments since the end of WWII. OF course there was quite a bit of activity on the part of the usmc "trading post guards" in the teens and 20s...
RE: US Guilty of Starting
There's a detailed list of them all someplace, El Polaco. When the details are included (through links) it makes up weeks, maybe months of reading.
There's a detailed list of them all someplace, El Polaco. When the details are included (through links) it makes up weeks, maybe months of reading.
Re: RE: US Guilty of Starting Not One, but Three Illegal War
I guess what I'm saying is I don't agree with the line of thinking this thread proposes. Trying to debate it wouldn't do any good, because no one here understands, and I get the impression that most believe any war is illegal.
Vanni Fucci said:
I guess what I'm saying is I don't agree with the line of thinking this thread proposes. Trying to debate it wouldn't do any good, because no one here understands, and I get the impression that most believe any war is illegal.
RE: US Guilty of Starting
I believe any war or covert action that contravenes international law is illegal, Jay. Since the US is not only a signatory to those laws, but helped to write many of them, I think that is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. There are no loo-holes in the Geneva Conventions that say, "Except if the USA does it," after all.
I believe any war or covert action that contravenes international law is illegal, Jay. Since the US is not only a signatory to those laws, but helped to write many of them, I think that is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. There are no loo-holes in the Geneva Conventions that say, "Except if the USA does it," after all.
Look at who is making the money off these wars .Nine times out of ten its the presidents family or the cabinets familys.These wars are all about cash.
RE: US Guilty of Starting
What genocide? The one that Saddam tried to commit on the Kurds while Reagan covered his ass, or the one in Rwanda where the US (and France) blocked anything being done? How about he one that's going on in Sudan where UN action is being held up because the US doesn't want Sudanese officials tried at the ICC?
What countries was Iraq invading lately? None. His invasion of Kuwait was something he thought the US was allowing him to do. The US lied about Kuwaiti babies being dumped out of incubators and Iraqi troops amassing on the Saudi border to get countries to join their coalition.
What genocide? The one that Saddam tried to commit on the Kurds while Reagan covered his ass, or the one in Rwanda where the US (and France) blocked anything being done? How about he one that's going on in Sudan where UN action is being held up because the US doesn't want Sudanese officials tried at the ICC?
What countries was Iraq invading lately? None. His invasion of Kuwait was something he thought the US was allowing him to do. The US lied about Kuwaiti babies being dumped out of incubators and Iraqi troops amassing on the Saudi border to get countries to join their coalition.
Who said they weren't involved with slamming planes into the world trade towers?The goverment ?Do you believe everything they tell you Jay?I for one do not believe anything Georgey boy has to say about 911.Look whos making all the money!The Bin Ladens,the Bushes.The Cheneys,I could go on and on.The facts are what they are
