U.S Army lies again story of Saddams capture a total lie

mrmom2

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Yet again the U.S.millatary lies about what they have done in Iraq.First it was the made up saving Jessica Lynch story ,now its the capture of Saddam .It turns out they never found him in a hole.Apparently a small group of soldiers captured him in amodest house in a small village .They then put him in the hole and staged the whole capture .It sure has to make you wnder if we have got any truth at all about what is really going on Iraq. The pentagon propaganda machine sure seems to be working over time to hide the tuth.
 

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Re: RE: U.S Army lies again story of Saddams capture a total

mrmom2 said:
infowar.com theres a link there to the original aticle

So there was one article that says this (even though I can't find it)... well it must be true then!

As a matter of fact we must have had him for months and made him grow a beard. The US dug the hole too!

**Edited Personal Attack**
 

Twila

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MRmom, can you provide the link here. I can't locate it at that source.
 

Twila

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Thanks. mrmom2. Did I just not notice the "2" at the end of your nick or are you a copy/memorex?
 

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This is a post of mine from another board I used to frequent...

We haven't heard too much about him lately...and I wonder what he's up to...

I remember seeing the footage of Saddam's court appearance and thinking: This is probably the last we'll see of this charlatan...

...because I find it extremely difficult to believe that they have Saddam at all...none of what transpired leading up to the alleged capture makes much sense to those that are willing to look past the smoke and mirrors...and I know that much of these inconsistencies have been discussed at length on this forum before...but I'd like to reiterate some key points that suggest that the US did not capture Saddam Hussein, in order to further my own discussion...

1. What happened to the dozens of body doubles that Saddam reputedly employed?

2. Would a multi-billionaire such as Hussein have stayed in country after seeing that the US military would sweep his Republican Guard aside in it's initial blitz towards Baghdad?

3. As arrogant as we all had come to know Saddam, could we possibly conceive that he would have hidden at all...let alone in a "spider hole"...armed with a pistol, and a couple of AK47s, but never firing a shot in his defense... with only $750, 000 US dollars...why would the money have been US currency I wonder...was he planning on taking a trip to Miami Beach, or was that all the CIA/Mossad could muster on such short notice...

4. Date palms...http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dates.htm

5. The speed with which the DNA tests returned a positive result...12 hours, or fully 1/4 the time needed under optimal circumstances...

6. The fact that Saddam was never identified by fingerprint analysis, for which there were many copies of Saddam's thumbprint to be used for positive identification. http://joevialls.altermedia.info/whatshisname.html

http://joevialls.altermedia.info/iraq/vaudeville.html

...what evidence is there that Uday and Qusay were killed?

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1393121,00.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-10-saddam_x.htm

...I find the demise of Uday and Qusay a bit contrived as well...

Anyway...in July we saw some scant, severely censored footage of a defiant Iraqi despot, challenging the authority of his accusers, and then nothing...no news about Saddam and his defense strategy, no word on when his trial may proceed...Michael Jackson has received more media coverage by far than has one of the world's most despised dictatorial leaders...

...and the appearance of the Saddam-like defendant in court seemed more like a carnival attraction meant to shock and bewilder than an actual arraignment hearing by a judicial body...

...his appearance itself would appear to have been arranged to substantiate the support of the Iraqi people for their new interim government...

...his defiance in court would have been seen by the insurgency as a sign to keep up the good fight...

Which now leads me to offer my explanation of the bigger picture...

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-freund080702.asp
Just prior to the US led invasion of Iraq, Saddam Hussein and Syria's Bashir al-Assad were becoming quite chummy...a situation that seems quite at odds with the death warrant issued by Syria for Saddam in the 60's...

I think that Saddam, when it was obvious that he could not escape capture from the coalition forces, paid his new friend Assad an impromptu visit in Syria, taking the greater part of his wealth with him, some of which to offer as a gratuity for safe passage for himself and his family...

I think that the coalition forces caught up with one of Saddam's doubles early on in the campaign, and decided to hold onto him as a "trump" for the "Ace of Spades", waiting until the time was right...

...and when the time was right, having extremely bad press for the scandal at Abu Graib, and the American people growing ever more disenchanted with the reasons Bush gave for going to war, as well as the desire of the administration to quietly pass a bill that they knew would outrage the American people (Patriot II Act), they produced their "trump" to the world, and hoped that their cover story would fly...

...and capture of this "trump" would serve many purposes to the US and the Iraqi governing council and the interim government...first to embolden the general populace and ease the anti-US sentiment, thereby adding an element of security to the area to usher in the advent of the Iraqi Interim Govenment...second to demoralize the insurgent resistance fighters, which would also bolster the security situation...

...and shortly after the US handed over sovereignty, and Saddam Hussein to the Iraqi Interim Government, the trial held, where the apparent Saddam, in a great show of defiance to his accusers, rejected the authority of the court to try him...which led to the insurgency attacking the coalition forces with a renewed vigour...which showed the world that the situation in Iraq was still extremely unstable and that it would not be prudent to ask the coalition forces to leave at that time...ie.) the cash cow for Halliburton and the US administration was not yet ready for slaughter...

...I think that the Saddam-like defendent will not live to see his mock trial...I think he will die of natural causes in prison, and the world will say good riddance, and not think any more on it...

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/002423.html
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/002444.html

...as for the real Saddam? I believe he is a guest at Baath party headquarters in Damascus...living like a prince in exile and having a good chuckle at this ironic turn of events...

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/oct/14iraq1.htm

...and I'm betting there's going to be an Osama bin Laden look-alike contest happening sometime soon...so wait for it...
 

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You forgot the theory about Saddam and Rummy being lovers. Oh wait...I'm supposed to keep that secret until the film comes out.;-)

Saddam's capture very much had the feel of a propaganda film. The idea that he submitted to being filmed during the lice and tooth check contradicts everything we have seen him do for decades.
 

mrmom2

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Very plausible Vanni it definitley seems to fit with all the other lies like osama taking down the world trade center .I think its only a matter of time before they trot out his ass in some charade.Some damn fine links there your keeping me very busy!Thanks
 

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What is more exciting: US soldiers on a "patriotic mission" in the heart of Iraq to find the man who is believed to be unfindable in a hole, which suits him "like the rat he is" compared to the "superior US army" .... or having to fight with the man in a simple home after local Iraqis have found him? For patriotic and commercial reasons, I would choose the first :wink:
 

Reverend Blair

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one ex-soldier saying something doesn't make it true.

As has been amply demonstrated over the last few years, neither does the US government saying something. In fact since George Bush came to power it is safer to assume that US government is lying than it is to assume they are telling the truth.