WMDs camouflage real reasons behind Iraq invasion
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RE: WMDs camouflage real
Waste of bandwidth. Iraq is a strategic gem for controlling the Middle East's oil. The US has long considered access to Middle Eastern oil a matter of security so they launched an illegal invasion and are committing a veritable genocide toward that end.
It's not surprising that, "Friedman is founder of Stratfor, a private, subscription-financed global intelligence service," is trying to paint a pretty picture of this debacle...it gives his mercenaries lots of work.
Waste of bandwidth. Iraq is a strategic gem for controlling the Middle East's oil. The US has long considered access to Middle Eastern oil a matter of security so they launched an illegal invasion and are committing a veritable genocide toward that end.
It's not surprising that, "Friedman is founder of Stratfor, a private, subscription-financed global intelligence service," is trying to paint a pretty picture of this debacle...it gives his mercenaries lots of work.
Nuclear devices in the hands of terrorists are the biggest threat the West faces.
God help the U.S. in keeping this from happening.
God help the U.S. in keeping this from happening.
RE: WMDs camouflage real
George Bush is the biggest threat the world faces. He is a terrorist. He does have WMD. He is in charge of a rogue nation.
George Bush is the biggest threat the world faces. He is a terrorist. He does have WMD. He is in charge of a rogue nation.
Hi! Dukee
Forget about that nuclear terrorist scare.
Osama has Death Star... OK, would you believe a suitcase nuke?
February 08, 2004
Here we go again. Now the Israelis say al-Qaeda has a suitcase nuke. This bit of fantastic nonsense appeared in the Al-Hayat newspaper and was broadcast on Israel Radio. "The report said that members of Osama bin Laden's group purchased the devices from Ukrainian scientists who sell them to anyone willing to pay the price," Ha'artez says.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/392006.html
Next thing you know, Osama will buy the Death Star. Maybe they can buy it from George Lucas.
According to an in-depth story appearing on the Center for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS) website, the prospect of renegade Russian scientists selling so-called suitcase nukes is an urban myth. Moreover, if they indeed exist, according to CNS, they are now virtually useless as atomic weapons:
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/020923.htm
The open-source data on suitcase nukes is sketchy and incomplete... Without additional data, it is impossible to say with an acceptable level of certainty whether any number of these weapons was stolen during and following the breakup of the Soviet Union... Available evidence suggests that these stories were most probably not true, and that they were generated by incomplete information or ulterior motives. The probability that such weapons could be used by terrorists (assuming some were stolen) appears even lower...
In addition, there was very little specialized expertise and know-how outside Russia, whereas portable nuclear devices were apparently very complicated in design and required highly skilled professionals to oversee their production and assembly... the period of greatest risk was in the early 1990s, the stolen devices, if any, have already missed as many as 20 routine component replacement procedures and are probably nearing the end of their service life. Consequently, it is nearly certain that they will be unable to produce the design yield and maybe will not be able to produce any yield at all... In effect, portable nuclear devices, if stolen, will hardly be usable, at least not in the fashion that they were originally designed for. They could be, of course, dismantled to extract weapons-grade plutonium, which could then be used in a cruder nuclear device or for a "dirty bomb"...
In addition, according to US Department of Defense spokesperson Captain Mike Doubleday, there is no such thing as a nuke capable of fitting in a suitcase. "I think we are aware that the Russian nuclear arsenal contained atomic demolition munitions which some people define or characterize as suitcase bombs. They are not really suitcase bombs since it requires two people to carry them, and they are not flat, so that they don't fit
in suitcases."
http://www.acronym.org.uk/dd/dd19/19nukes.htm
Maybe the Ministry of Homeland Security and Dick Cheney know something the Department of Defense does not. Last month the rightwing magazine Whistleblower floated the improbable idea of al-Qaeda attacking the American heartland with nukes.
"Fear of a nuclear attack on American soil is back -- and with good reason," a teaser for the magazine says. "Osama bin Laden [purchased] Soviet-era nuclear weapons on the black market [never mind the study above indicates nukes manufactured in the Soviet-era would be useless without strict maintenance]... The Department of Homeland Security's distribution of radiation detectors to police in Chicago, Detroit, Houston, San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle -- as well as to Bureau of Customs and Border Protection agents nationwide -- to screen for terrorist activity, whether a dirty bomb, suitcase nuke or other source of radiation... Vice President Dick Cheney's chilling assessment that nuclear terror is 'the major threat' facing America: Calling a WMD attack on the U.S. 'one of the most important problems we face today,' Cheney added: 'To contemplate the possibility of them unleashing that kind of capability -- of that kind of weapon, if you will, in the midst of one of our cities -- that's a scary proposition'..."
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/i...D=0&ITEM_ID=108
"There is an air of unreality in many people's minds when it comes to nuclear weapons," said Whistleblower editor and rightwing nutter Joseph Farah. "After all, a nuclear weapon hasn't been deployed in war since World War II, when the U.S. dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Add to that the failure so far of coalition forces to find any nuclear weapons in Iraq. Such factors, combined with the inherent difficulty in facing up to a subject so horrific, and you can understand people's tendency to bury their heads with respect to the looming nuclear threat of 2004."
Bush and Cheney don't want you to bury your head -- they want to scare you into supporting a bogus war on CIA-created terrorism.
The report appearing in Ha'artez supposedly quotes an "Arabic daily based in London [claiming] the devices are not intended for use, except in the event that the organization is threatened."
But wait a minute. I thought al-Qaeda was on the run. In other words, under constant threat by Bush the cowboy, ready to invade nations to exterminate al-Qaeda and nasty dictators (with their own nukes) like Saddam. Recall Bush saying way back on October 11, 2001, that "we've got them on the run."
If we are to believe the Israelis, two members of al-Qaeda are running with a not-so suitcase sized nuke in tow.
It's nonsense.
http://kurtnimmo.com/blogger.html
Forget about that nuclear terrorist scare.
Osama has Death Star... OK, would you believe a suitcase nuke?
February 08, 2004
Here we go again. Now the Israelis say al-Qaeda has a suitcase nuke. This bit of fantastic nonsense appeared in the Al-Hayat newspaper and was broadcast on Israel Radio. "The report said that members of Osama bin Laden's group purchased the devices from Ukrainian scientists who sell them to anyone willing to pay the price," Ha'artez says.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/392006.html
Next thing you know, Osama will buy the Death Star. Maybe they can buy it from George Lucas.
According to an in-depth story appearing on the Center for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS) website, the prospect of renegade Russian scientists selling so-called suitcase nukes is an urban myth. Moreover, if they indeed exist, according to CNS, they are now virtually useless as atomic weapons:
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/020923.htm
The open-source data on suitcase nukes is sketchy and incomplete... Without additional data, it is impossible to say with an acceptable level of certainty whether any number of these weapons was stolen during and following the breakup of the Soviet Union... Available evidence suggests that these stories were most probably not true, and that they were generated by incomplete information or ulterior motives. The probability that such weapons could be used by terrorists (assuming some were stolen) appears even lower...
In addition, there was very little specialized expertise and know-how outside Russia, whereas portable nuclear devices were apparently very complicated in design and required highly skilled professionals to oversee their production and assembly... the period of greatest risk was in the early 1990s, the stolen devices, if any, have already missed as many as 20 routine component replacement procedures and are probably nearing the end of their service life. Consequently, it is nearly certain that they will be unable to produce the design yield and maybe will not be able to produce any yield at all... In effect, portable nuclear devices, if stolen, will hardly be usable, at least not in the fashion that they were originally designed for. They could be, of course, dismantled to extract weapons-grade plutonium, which could then be used in a cruder nuclear device or for a "dirty bomb"...
In addition, according to US Department of Defense spokesperson Captain Mike Doubleday, there is no such thing as a nuke capable of fitting in a suitcase. "I think we are aware that the Russian nuclear arsenal contained atomic demolition munitions which some people define or characterize as suitcase bombs. They are not really suitcase bombs since it requires two people to carry them, and they are not flat, so that they don't fit
in suitcases."
http://www.acronym.org.uk/dd/dd19/19nukes.htm
Maybe the Ministry of Homeland Security and Dick Cheney know something the Department of Defense does not. Last month the rightwing magazine Whistleblower floated the improbable idea of al-Qaeda attacking the American heartland with nukes.
"Fear of a nuclear attack on American soil is back -- and with good reason," a teaser for the magazine says. "Osama bin Laden [purchased] Soviet-era nuclear weapons on the black market [never mind the study above indicates nukes manufactured in the Soviet-era would be useless without strict maintenance]... The Department of Homeland Security's distribution of radiation detectors to police in Chicago, Detroit, Houston, San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle -- as well as to Bureau of Customs and Border Protection agents nationwide -- to screen for terrorist activity, whether a dirty bomb, suitcase nuke or other source of radiation... Vice President Dick Cheney's chilling assessment that nuclear terror is 'the major threat' facing America: Calling a WMD attack on the U.S. 'one of the most important problems we face today,' Cheney added: 'To contemplate the possibility of them unleashing that kind of capability -- of that kind of weapon, if you will, in the midst of one of our cities -- that's a scary proposition'..."
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/i...D=0&ITEM_ID=108
"There is an air of unreality in many people's minds when it comes to nuclear weapons," said Whistleblower editor and rightwing nutter Joseph Farah. "After all, a nuclear weapon hasn't been deployed in war since World War II, when the U.S. dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Add to that the failure so far of coalition forces to find any nuclear weapons in Iraq. Such factors, combined with the inherent difficulty in facing up to a subject so horrific, and you can understand people's tendency to bury their heads with respect to the looming nuclear threat of 2004."
Bush and Cheney don't want you to bury your head -- they want to scare you into supporting a bogus war on CIA-created terrorism.
The report appearing in Ha'artez supposedly quotes an "Arabic daily based in London [claiming] the devices are not intended for use, except in the event that the organization is threatened."
But wait a minute. I thought al-Qaeda was on the run. In other words, under constant threat by Bush the cowboy, ready to invade nations to exterminate al-Qaeda and nasty dictators (with their own nukes) like Saddam. Recall Bush saying way back on October 11, 2001, that "we've got them on the run."
If we are to believe the Israelis, two members of al-Qaeda are running with a not-so suitcase sized nuke in tow.
It's nonsense.
http://kurtnimmo.com/blogger.html
There are a lot of people in this world who would like to see the western world go up in flames. With every great civilization, there will be those out there trying to bring it down. The very reason societies voluntarily give up a degree of their freedoms to governments is to provide us with protection from outside forces.
Mr. Bush may have nuclear weapons, but he doesn't intend on using them to kill me or my family. There are a lot of people out there that would be quite happy to do that if they could get their hands on them.
Mr. Bush may have nuclear weapons, but he doesn't intend on using them to kill me or my family. There are a lot of people out there that would be quite happy to do that if they could get their hands on them.
RE: WMDs camouflage real
Oh man...unnecessary fear and loathing in Saskatoon.
Do ya think al Qaeda is going to set off a nuke in the Mid-Town Plaza, Dukee?
The truth is that the biggest threat to our security is a failing giant to our soutern border whio has shown a willingness to go to war over natural resources. We are not under military threat from them, but threat by those who would just hand over our resources to them.
In addition to that, we are under threat from the continued push to follow them into their imperialist adventures. That would put our soldiers at direct risk and undermine our position on the world stage as a peaceable country.
Oh man...unnecessary fear and loathing in Saskatoon.
Do ya think al Qaeda is going to set off a nuke in the Mid-Town Plaza, Dukee?
The truth is that the biggest threat to our security is a failing giant to our soutern border whio has shown a willingness to go to war over natural resources. We are not under military threat from them, but threat by those who would just hand over our resources to them.
In addition to that, we are under threat from the continued push to follow them into their imperialist adventures. That would put our soldiers at direct risk and undermine our position on the world stage as a peaceable country.
We live under Pax Americana. If it wasn't for the U.S., we would all be speaking Russian right now.
al Quaeda hates my Western values and wants to destroy my way of life.
My death, or the death of any of my country men would make them very happy. Osama Bin Laden was not kidding when he put Canada on his list of country's he wishes to attack. Appeasement will only destroy the good things we have here.
al Quaeda hates my Western values and wants to destroy my way of life.
My death, or the death of any of my country men would make them very happy. Osama Bin Laden was not kidding when he put Canada on his list of country's he wishes to attack. Appeasement will only destroy the good things we have here.
Man. I bet that'd piss them durned kweebeckers off, eh?
Al Quaida doesn't really give a rat's patoot about you or your values, Dukee. They aren't too happy about having been subjugated for the last century or so though and they are extremly upset at their holy lands being occupied by infidels.
So Osama is going to nuke the Bessborough...it all makes sense to me now.
Which is exactly why we need to quit playing Chamberlain to Bush's Hitler.