Saudi Arabia re-elected as head of the UN Human Rights
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I'm not too concerned about this other that how in the hell did they get elected in the first place?
More reason why the UN is irrelevant and clique... Anyone who sports a UN flag under their avatar and talks human rights is a hypocrite
The UN has held on a lot longer than the League of Nations did but it also seems to have run its course. From time to time, they have brokered peace from time to time but they have eventually been gelded by a membership that is largly opressive, totalitarian and corrupt beyond measure.
The default type of govenment that our species creates is the Thugocracy, ... a pyramidal structure of thugs answering to greater thugs, crushing the rest of us under their boots. This is what normal human civilization consists iof. This is what the UN has come to look like and that is possibly our future fate, as well.
The default type of govenment that our species creates is the Thugocracy, ... a pyramidal structure of thugs answering to greater thugs, crushing the rest of us under their boots. This is what normal human civilization consists iof. This is what the UN has come to look like and that is possibly our future fate, as well.
Saying they are currently a US rubber stamp would have been shorter and more accurate. How many of those Nations are under US domination? All 79% would be the correct answer if there was even a vote taken.
Why? Because it had no competition. Seats on the Human Rights Council are shared among five regional groups. This year, the Asia group put forward just four candidates for their four open seats on the council, effectively guaranteeing their election. Unsurprisingly, Saudi Arabia, China, Iraq, and Japan all won.
The Eastern Europe group, however, put forward more candidates than the number of seats available, with Russia, Croatia, and Hungary all competing for two seats. The result was Russia’s unexpected defeat by two votes.
Saudi Arabia’s pre-cooked victory raises a serious question – is the integrity of the Human Rights Council compromised if some countries don’t even have to compete for a seat on the body? This was one of the reasons its predecessor, the UN Commission on Human Rights, was shut down and replaced with the council 10 years ago.
Had Saudi Arabia faced a competitive slate, other countries could have closely scrutinized its numerous violations of the laws of war in Yemen, as was apparently the case for Russia’s actions in Syria. In fact, Saudi Arabia was the least popular candidate in its group, receiving the smallest number of votes. Had there been competition, this could have meant defeat for the kingdom, particularly in light of Saudi Arabia’s repeated blocking of an international investigation into alleged Yemen war crimes after the Saudi-led coalition failed to do so. Earlier this year, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International called for its suspension from the body.
Saudi Arabia’s election follows its successful blackmail campaign to have its coalition removed from the UN secretary-general’s “List of Shame” for killing and maiming children and attacking schools and hospitals in Yemen. Saudi Arabia got its way, though at the cost of its outrageous tactics being made public.
Candidate countries that run without competition cannot possibly face proper scrutiny of their human rights records. Of course, a competitive process may still allow serious abusers to get elected – but at least, as with Russia, some member countries may think twice before voting them onto the council.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/11/01/how-saudi-arabia-kept-its-un-human-rights-council-seat
Why? Because it had no competition. Seats on the Human Rights Council are shared among five regional groups. This year, the Asia group put forward just four candidates for their four open seats on the council, effectively guaranteeing their election. Unsurprisingly, Saudi Arabia, China, Iraq, and Japan all won.
The Eastern Europe group, however, put forward more candidates than the number of seats available, with Russia, Croatia, and Hungary all competing for two seats. The result was Russia’s unexpected defeat by two votes.
Saudi Arabia’s pre-cooked victory raises a serious question – is the integrity of the Human Rights Council compromised if some countries don’t even have to compete for a seat on the body? This was one of the reasons its predecessor, the UN Commission on Human Rights, was shut down and replaced with the council 10 years ago.
Had Saudi Arabia faced a competitive slate, other countries could have closely scrutinized its numerous violations of the laws of war in Yemen, as was apparently the case for Russia’s actions in Syria. In fact, Saudi Arabia was the least popular candidate in its group, receiving the smallest number of votes. Had there been competition, this could have meant defeat for the kingdom, particularly in light of Saudi Arabia’s repeated blocking of an international investigation into alleged Yemen war crimes after the Saudi-led coalition failed to do so. Earlier this year, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International called for its suspension from the body.
Saudi Arabia’s election follows its successful blackmail campaign to have its coalition removed from the UN secretary-general’s “List of Shame” for killing and maiming children and attacking schools and hospitals in Yemen. Saudi Arabia got its way, though at the cost of its outrageous tactics being made public.
Candidate countries that run without competition cannot possibly face proper scrutiny of their human rights records. Of course, a competitive process may still allow serious abusers to get elected – but at least, as with Russia, some member countries may think twice before voting them onto the council.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/11/01/how-saudi-arabia-kept-its-un-human-rights-council-seat
Are you one of these, Mhz?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
We've already encountered a couple of authentic Russian schills like this on a UK forum.
Why woukd we be spared?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
We've already encountered a couple of authentic Russian schills like this on a UK forum.
Why woukd we be spared?
I'm pretty sure the US and Canada have donated a lot bigger building to western trolls who have nothing but false facts about Russia and what Putin is actually up to. I'm not a troll for either side but it appears I'm a lot better informed than you are. You ever going to try and balance that defect of yours out? It's one thing to be naive about some issues but to be as determined as you are to remain like that is somewhat of a goal that only a retard would shoot for.
I agree with Johnny - the UN is not relevant in todays society. Why? Because the tyrants of the world have taken it over and the countries who have any sort of democracy have overwhelmingly been out-voted and out smarted.
As progressives ideologically thought, if we "invited" countries who may not necessarily been democratic into our fold, maybe they would see the "light" and adapt to our way of thinking/living.. Yeah - world peace!! If the UN operated as initially intended, maybe it would bring peace and understanding to the world. Instead, what we've created is a monster with the ideological idea that having these "tyrants'" participate would do the world a whole lot of good. IWe've let in the "devil" and they've taken over. The very fact that the US especially, tends to interfere with other countries, is instrumental in creating the world as it stands now.
Simply killing the Gadhafi's and others of his ilk and then letting the Saudi's continue with their misogynist and irrational way of governing their countries is hypocritical and disingenuous. How can you get rid of one and support the other? It simply doesn't make sense nor does it bod will for world peace.
Hopefully, Trump is serious when he says that he'll put America first and pull out US involvement in international affairs. Clinton will simply make matters worse by continuing to support regimes that kill and hold their own population hostage; encourage tribal wars against innocent civilians and make the US and its allies more unsafe than they currently are now.
This election, while the mot bizarre ever, is also likely the most important ever!!
JMHO
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My Point exactly!!!!!!!!
As progressives ideologically thought, if we "invited" countries who may not necessarily been democratic into our fold, maybe they would see the "light" and adapt to our way of thinking/living.. Yeah - world peace!! If the UN operated as initially intended, maybe it would bring peace and understanding to the world. Instead, what we've created is a monster with the ideological idea that having these "tyrants'" participate would do the world a whole lot of good. IWe've let in the "devil" and they've taken over. The very fact that the US especially, tends to interfere with other countries, is instrumental in creating the world as it stands now.
Simply killing the Gadhafi's and others of his ilk and then letting the Saudi's continue with their misogynist and irrational way of governing their countries is hypocritical and disingenuous. How can you get rid of one and support the other? It simply doesn't make sense nor does it bod will for world peace.
Hopefully, Trump is serious when he says that he'll put America first and pull out US involvement in international affairs. Clinton will simply make matters worse by continuing to support regimes that kill and hold their own population hostage; encourage tribal wars against innocent civilians and make the US and its allies more unsafe than they currently are now.
This election, while the mot bizarre ever, is also likely the most important ever!!
JMHO
.
My Point exactly!!!!!!!!
Which of the things in the list made his murder justifiable??
https://moraloutrage.wordpress.com/...under-gaddafi-that-you-probably-did-not-know/
Facts you probably do not know about Libya under Muammar Gaddafi:
• There are no electricity bills in Libya; electricity is free … for all its citizens.
• There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
• If a Libyan is unable to find employment after graduation, the state pays the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
• Should Libyans want to take up a farming career, they receive farm land, a house, equipment, seed and livestock to kick start their farms – all for free.
• Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
• A home considered a human right in Libya. (In Qaddafi’s Green Book it states: “The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others.”)
• All newlyweds in Libya receive 60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start a family.
• A portion of Libyan oil sales is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
• A mother who gives birth to a child receives US $5,000.
• When a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50% of the price.
• The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
• For $ 0.15, a Libyan local can purchase 40 loaves of bread.
• Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Libya can boast one of the finest health care systems in the Arab and African World. All people have access to doctors, hospitals, clinics and medicines, completely free of charge.
• If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US $2,300/month accommodation and car allowance.
• 25% of Libyans have a university degree. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is 87%.
• Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – though much of this is now frozen globally.
The UN is now completely irrelevant. People and governments stop caring about an organization who's so corrupt they would admit someone like Saudi Arabia; doesn't that defeat their whole purpose of existence!! They have become inconsequential and laughable to most of the world powers. To save this incompetent organization, the top needs to be dismantled; many countries booted out, some admitted; and only then could they become a body which could be counted on as effective liaison.
Valid points but missing his african development bank, loans were floated at attractive rates that imf could not offer, seizing his gold, oil and life solved this financial challenge that sarkozy led and u.s. readily chipped in. If americans make note of the video showing a pres candidate cheering as he is brutally butchered it should make the lesser of two evils choice easier.
Change it so the security council members don't vote or get a veto and their citizens make up the forces that do go to war and watch how fast things get settled via diplomacy alone.
Actually your post indicated that Libya was as bad as Saudi and the list showed you were wrong as the people of Saudi have none of those benefits even when the Saudi regime makes more money on their oil.
What good is having trillions and trillions of American dollars from trading oil exclusively in American dollars as one of USA's ally. When you have more money then anyone can possibly spend in 100 000 life time. You might as well buy influence. Or you soon realize the money is worthless.
We have given so much money to the Saudi's. They don't even know what to do with it anymore. So they buy themselves influence.
What did you expect would happen?
And we will continue to give them money. Because we are as intelligent as two by four's
