Turkey to negotiate joint Defense Plan with Russia,

[darkbeaver]

This is BIG, Turkey to negotiate joint Defense Plan with Russia, United States is left alone



Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan presented a united front at their first meeting since Turkey shot down a Russian plane last year, promising to rapidly rebuild a damaged economic relationship and find a new common policy for solving the Syrian conflict.
“We have gone through a very difficult moment in the relationship between our two countries, but now we would all like to overcome it in the interests of both our peoples,” said the Russian president during a joint press conference with his Turkish counterpart in St. Petersburg.
“We want to restore our relationship not only for pragmatic reasons, but in the long-term interests of our countries, and for the sake of promoting good neighborly relations between Russians and Turks.”

Uncle Sham is leaking allies all over the road to hell. What a mess, I don,t think theholes can be repaired.

 

[lone wolf]

Ohhh.... Nay-toe ain't gonna like that....

 

[Highball]

Another of Erdogan's methods to twist the US arm seeking the return of the Muslim Cleric Erdogan wants to execute who resides in Pennsylvania.

 

[darkbeaver]

NATOW is Uncle Sham so yes they won't like it but they're powerless to do anything except border posturing and mouthing off over fences. This will accellarate the disolution of the EU and NATO and with them the end of American hegemonic nuttyness. Petro Dollar goodbye. Uncle Sam ain't #1 no more.

 

[EagleSmack]

Maybe the Turks can give the Russians lessons in air to air combat.

 

[Blackleaf]

PM Agrees To Meet Putin At G20 Summit

Theresa May will meet Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in China - a meeting agreed during a telephone conversation.

The conversation was the first since Mrs May became Prime Minister.

A Kremlin spokesman said both leaders had said they were unhappy with the current state of relations between the UK and Russia.

The pair agreed to work on an arrangement between their agencies on issues relating to aviation security.

A Sky source said that they also agreed to meet at the G20 summit of world leaders in China in September.

The relationship between the UK and Russia has been strained over the past few years by the situation in Ukraine and Mr Putin's backing of the Syrian regime.

There are also tensions over what Britain says is a sharp increase in flights by long-range Russian bombers near British air space.

The Kremlin said Tuesday's phone call was initiated by Britain.

It also said that Mrs May confirmed Britain would be involved in this month's ceremonies marking 75 years since the arrival of the first British World War Two convoy in the Russian city of Arkhangelsk.


PM Agrees To Meet Putin At G20 Summit

 

[MHz]

This would a rock and a hard place if I'm not mistaken. Give sanctuary and that show the coup was the US at work, deny him sanctury and a lot of hidden allies would know they aren't protected either.

Coup Fallout: Turkish Military Officer Seeks Asylum in US

 

[Kreskin]

All the desparates wanting to be Putins poodle.

 

[Ludlow]

shine on shine on harvest moon up in the sky. I ain't had no lovin since January February June or July.

 

[darkbeaver]

Maybe the Turks can give the Russians lessons in air to air combat.

The Turks will give Russia the Middle East and fuse the continent in a very nice trading block sans yankee.

All the desparates wanting to be Putins poodle.

So it was OK to have Obama feed you doggy treats?

Putin and Erdogan Vow to Repair Ties as West Watches Nervously

Against a backdrop of rising tensions between Turkey and the West, Presidents Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey pledged on Tuesday to repair relations after nine months of open antagonism.
Although their meeting in St. Petersburg on Tuesday produced little beyond vows of friendship and cooperation, the symbolism of the two former antagonists coming together for a friendly talk was enough to raise alarms in Western capitals. Besides being a member of the NATO alliance, Turkey is vital to Europe’s efforts to stanch the flow of migrants from Syria and Afghanistan.
Washington and Ankara, long at odds over American support of the Kurds in Syria and Iraq, have had a series of problems lately. Anti-Americanism has been on the rise in Turkey, amid accusations that the United States played a role in the failed coup in Turkey and widespread resentment of the White House’s criticism of the resulting crackdown.

 

[MHz]

All the desparates wanting to be Putins poodle.

If you notice, Turkey hasn't been having much positive luck after the Russian Jet was shot down, ambushed if you will, and Turkey and Russia have more in common that Turkey and the US or Russia and the US. When they start coughing up intel they are privy to then you will see Russia respond in a positive way to Turkey while demolishing ISIS as promised after the Russian Passenger Jet was blown out of the sky.
You just know that Israel will go along with the ties that bind as they are better friends with both countries than with the US as far as 'intensive warfare' goes.
The US has their own 'Putin' with Trump and he will inherit a country like the USSR was after the collapse in 1980 and the rape by western companies in the decade that followed. Trump will come into power at the same level as Putin did so the 'recovery' should begin just as quickly. The people that are against such change are most likely the ones that are benefiting from the current mode and that means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer rather than the country being based on few poor people there are rather than having some civilians that live the same style of existence as Medevil Monarchies. There is no money shortage if the bank vaults were run at the something other than the fiat money system. Take away the illegal usury and that is half the needed changes right there.

 

[Machjo]

The UK needs trading partners before it can trigger Article 50.

 

[selfsame]

My opinion what Turkey should do:
1- To be on the non-alignment .. without inclining to the US and its allies and without inclining to Russia and its allies.
If Erdogan inclines to any of these or Tel Aviv seeking that they may uphold him .. they will betray him and may kill him.
2- He should cooperate with the other Muslim countries like Iran.
3- He should depend on God alone (not on the US or Russia or others) ... then and only then he will be successful.
4- He should not participate in the game played in Syria by these Zionist and Imperialist states, but he should support the Syrian people by receiving and aiding them with shelter and provision ... and then God will help him.

He might have recently been punished for participating in the game played by such states in Syria ... which led to the misery of the Syrian people.

He might have been saved for objecting to the Imperialist and Zionist states in their programs (concerning the Aqsa Mosque at Jerusalem.)
And God is the All-Knowing and the All-Mighty.

 

[Machjo]

Iran's a Muslim country? Isn't that like calling the Crusaders Christians and the Zionists Jews?

 

[MHz]

The Turks will give Russia the Middle East and fuse the continent in a very nice trading block sans yankee.

So it was OK to have Obama feed you doggy treats?

Putin and Erdogan Vow to Repair Ties as West Watches Nervously


Against a backdrop of rising tensions between Turkey and the West, Presidents Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey pledged on Tuesday to repair relations after nine months of open antagonism.
Although their meeting in St. Petersburg on Tuesday produced little beyond vows of friendship and cooperation, the symbolism of the two former antagonists coming together for a friendly talk was enough to raise alarms in Western capitals. Besides being a member of the NATO alliance, Turkey is vital to Europe’s efforts to stanch the flow of migrants from Syria and Afghanistan.
Washington and Ankara, long at odds over American support of the Kurds in Syria and Iraq, have had a series of problems lately. Anti-Americanism has been on the rise in Turkey, amid accusations that the United States played a role in the failed coup in Turkey and widespread resentment of the White House’s criticism of the resulting crackdown.

In hindsight this will be attributed to Daniel:11 as far as the 'battles in the glorious land' before Jerusalem is the newest 'city state' (made an international city in 1947) and that will be the ones pulling the strings via the Belgium Bankers. Just how they spin it after that will show it is a positive move as the wars are replaced by reconstruction for all cities except Damascus and it will be the 'show home' on the push for no wars no matter how badly the Bankers are running things. You can't ignore that aspect of the place.

 

[selfsame]

Iran's a Muslim country? Isn't that like calling the Crusaders Christians and the Zionists Jews?

Yes, Iran is a powerful Muslim country like Turkey, so if they cooperate together they will be more in power.

I did not say: "Islamic", but "Muslim" country, and even if they have much to be criticized for, but still they are Muslim countries.

The indication of this: See the enemy of the Islam and Muslims: they desire that each of Iran and Turkey may be weakened .. why? Because weakening of either of Iran and Turkey will serve the purpose of the Zionists and the Imperialist including Russia also ... they don't like that any Muslim country may have power or influence ... so that they can work as they like.

 

[Machjo]

But we shouldn't define Muslim in name only. I'd say the UK is more Muslim than Iran even though Iran calls itself Muslim and the UK calls itself Christian.

Then again, I'd consider the UK more Christian than Iran too.

 

[selfsame]

Therefore, inclining to Russia is wrong, but good relations with Russia is good.

 

[MHz]

The Protestants and Catholicism don't partner well even if they are both 'Christian Churches'. One thing that Iran and Afghanistan bot went for with great support is the UN documents pertaining to the 'rights of a child' and the rights of women to serve in the 'work force' of the country in Politics and Law and Education and Business. That allows them to have something in common and still retain their differences that are natural to 'kindred'. (natural relationship; affinity, a group of persons related to another; family, tribe, or clan.)

They also get the royalties from any 'treasures' found within their respective borders so they are anything but welfare states which is their burden under the current rules.

 

[selfsame]

But we shouldn't define Muslim in name only. I'd say the UK is more Muslim than Iran even though Iran calls itself Muslim and the UK calls itself Christian.

Then again, I'd consider the UK more Christian than Iran too.

I will use the English expression and say: Excuse me, you are cheating yourself.

UK is good for you as individual, they make use of you if you are a doctor or an engineer ... why not;

but their policy and the purpose of their governments ... it is exceedingly different,

they smile in your face, but their hearts are full of rancor and hatred towards Muslims and towards the Islam;

in addition they know the powerful ideology of the Quran and they fear for their generations lest they become Muslims.