Queen asks guests to give her three reasons why Britain should remain in EU

[Blackleaf]

The Queen has been canvassing opinion on the EU debate by asking dinner companions: "Give me three good reasons why Britain should be part of Europe."

Her Majesty's biographer, Robert Lacey, reported the Queen's comments and suggested they may mean the Queen favours withdrawal from the European Union.

EU referendum: Queen asks guests to give her three reasons why Britain should remain in Europe

The Queen is politically neutral but is still privately debating Britain's membership of the EU Credit: Eddie Mulholland for The Telegraph

Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter
21 June 2016
The Telegraph

The Queen has been canvassing opinion on the EU debate by asking dinner companions: "Give me three good reasons why Britain should be part of Europe."

Her Majesty's biographer, Robert Lacey, reported the Queen's comments and suggested they may mean the Queen favours withdrawal from the European Union.

Buckingham Palace would neither confirm nor deny that the Queen had been debating the merits of Brexit in private, but royal sources pointed out that the words attributed to the Queen were "a question not a statement".

However the leading nature of the alleged question adds weight to previous claims that the Queen would like Britain to pull out of the EU.

9 March 2016

Today

Last month the press regulator found that the Sun newspaper had been guilty of "significantly misleading" its readers when it printed the headline "Queen backs Brexit" above a story about the Queen complaining about Brussels to Nick Clegg.

One royal insider said of the latest report: "She appears to be asking a question, not making a statement. She is not expressing a view."

The Queen is, officially at least, politically neutral, but she intervened in the Scottish referendum debate in 2014 by suggesting in a conversation with a member of the public, which she knew was likely to be reported by the Press, that she hoped Scots would "think very carefully" before casting their vote.

It was seen as a clear indication that the Queen wanted Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom.

Mr Lacey made his claim about the Queen questioning dinner guests in a blog for the Daily Beast website.

He told The Telegraph: "She asked the question in the context of a general debate - she loves a bit of forthright discussion and this sort of remark is tossed around the dinner table like a ping pong ball. That is the way she frames her questions."

A spokesman for Buckingham Palace said: "We would not comment on private conversations the Queen may or may not have had, but the Queen is above politics, has remained politically neutral for the 64 years of her reign and we are very clear that the EU referendum is a matter for the British people."

EU referendum: Queen asks guests to give her three reasons why Britain should remain in Europe

 

[Serryah]

It's a valid question. Just as the question of why they shouldn't they remain in the EU is also valid.

 

[Blackleaf]

It's a valid question. Just as the question of why they shouldn't they remain in the EU is also valid.

Nobody on the Remain side have got any good reasons as to why Britain should stay in the EU Empire. That's why they have to resort to intelligence-insulting scaremongering involving WWIII and genocide to try and scare us into voting Remain tomorrow.

 

[Serryah]

Nobody on the Remain side have got any good reasons as to why Britain should stay in the EU Empire. That's why they have to resort to intelligence-insulting scaremongering involving WWIII and genocide to try and scare us into voting Remain tomorrow.

Same could be side for the Leavers.

 

[mentalfloss]

We were trying to decide whether or not to remain in a post war arrangement of diverse nations, so we decided to consult the most appropriate expert on such matters:

A motherfukking Queen.


Because nothing says neutral diplomacy and removing patriotic bias like consulting a monarchy.


In other news, King Louie says leaving would be great and he will get his band of mercenary thugs on it, stat.


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[Blackleaf]

Same could be side for the Leavers.

The Leavers have won both the immigration and the economic case for leaving the EU. Outside the EU we will no longer have EU free movement of people and no longer he part of an economically sclerotic behemoth, the Sick Man of the world. The only continent whose economy is growing more slowly than Europe's is Antarctica.

But, more than that, we want Britain to be a self-governing, sovereign nation state once more, no longer dictated to by unelected foreigners in Brussels and Strasbourg who care nothing for Britain but who make most of our laws.

So there are three very good reasons to leave the EU - take back control of our borders; get out of the world's economic Sick Man; and, most importantly, regain our sovereignty.

The Remainers, on the other hand, can offer nothing upbeat like this, and just give us a silly apocalyptic vision of a Britain outside the EU because they have no good reasons as to why Britain should stay in.

If Remain wins the referendum:

1. The EU will see a green light for closer federal integration that will culminate in a United States of Europe.

2. Cameron will pretend at getting more concessions from the EU while laughing inside at the stupidity of the British people.

3. Blair, Osborne, Soros, Obama, Hollande, Merkel, Goldman Sachs and the rest of the fledgling NWO will gloat and congratulate themselves while continuing to despise the working class.

4. Britain will continue to lose her sovereignty at an even faster pace.

5. Democracy will die as it becomes a mere charade.

6. Luvvies will say that the UK has been saved from 'Little Englanders'.

7. Nigel Farage will continue to be sidelined, bullied and ignored by the new emboldened Establishment.

8. Johnson and Gove will blame Farage for Remain's win.

9. The Guardian (BBC) will run the headline 'The day racism/xenophobia lost' (or something like that).

10. Britain will be more divided than ever before.


If Leave wins:

1. Drinks in Trafalgar Square, a huge party, freedom and hope in a new and brighter future for Britain.

 

[Colpy]

We were trying to decide whether or not to remain in a post war arrangement of diverse nations, so we decided to consult the most appropriate expert on such matters:

A motherfukking Queen.


Because nothing says neutral diplomacy and removing patriotic bias like consulting a monarchy.


In other news, King Louie says leaving would be great and he will get his band of mercenary thugs on it, stat.


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The current Queen has spent her entire life in service to the nation.

A little respect is in order.

Pissants such as yourself are allowed to express an opinion, even though you are not even a British subject.

Certainly the Queen should be able to ask a question without inspiring obscene abuse from the ignorant.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The current Queen has spent her entire life in service to the nation.

A little respect is in order.

Pissants such as yourself are allowed to express an opinion, even though you are not even a British subject.

Certainly the Queen should be able to ask a question with inspiring abuse from the ignorant.

Sadly, there ain't many folk left who show anything but blazing hate for anybody who doesn't enthusiastically support every detail of their positions.

The Queen asked a question. Off with her head!

 

[Corduroy]

Maybe the person she asked gave her 3 good reasons and she was like "oh well that makes a lot of sense".

 

[B00Mer]

Wow, how many new threads do we have on BREXIT??

:lol:

 

[FiveParadox]

Blackleaf, if there are any more new threads on this referendum, I'm combining them into a single "official" thread. There's no reason that we cannot have one thread for all of these very closely related topics (and by the same author, no less). Thanks!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Maybe the person she asked gave her 3 good reasons and she was like "oh well that makes a lot of sense".

Yeah, but that wouldn't fit the whining hatred of the narratives.

Blackleaf, if there are any more new threads on this referendum, I'm combining them into a single "official" thread. There's no reason that we cannot have one thread for all of these very closely related topics (and by the same author, no less). Thanks!

 

[mentalfloss]

The current Queen has spent her entire life in service to the nation.

A little respect is in order.

Pissants such as yourself are allowed to express an opinion, even though you are not even a British subject.

Certainly the Queen should be able to ask a question without inspiring obscene abuse from the ignorant.

What the Queen thinks should not make any difference, whether it is for or against.

She should not be given the time of day on any political matter and the fact that people still exist that believe she should is sad.

 

[Corduroy]

Yeah, but that wouldn't fit the whining hatred of the narratives.

Could we have a rational discussion about the EU on this forum, instead of Blackleaf's frantic 11th hour spam? Maybe someone could give 3 good reasons to remain?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

What the Queen thinks should not make any difference, whether it is for or against.

She should not be given the time of day on any political matter and the fact that people still exist that believe she should is sad.

We're sure if you get your way, you'll end their existence.

Could we have a rational discussion about the EU on this forum, instead of Blackleaf's frantic 11th hour spam?

I strongly doubt it.

Maybe someone could give 3 good reasons to remain?

Free trade, free movement and employment, the international power and influence of a united Europe.

 

[Colpy]

Could we have a rational discussion about the EU on this forum, instead of Blackleaf's frantic 11th hour spam? Maybe someone could give 3 good reasons to remain?

Three good reasons to get out.

1. To control their own immigrtation

2. To control their own trade deals

3. To get out from under the extensive and completely undemocration regimen of EU bereaucratic rules.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Three good reasons to get out.

1. To control their own immigrtation

2. To control their own trade deals

Oh, they'll be exiting the WTO?

3. To get out from under the extensive and completely undemocration regimen of EU bereaucratic rules.

And be under the completely undemocratic regimen of British bureaucratic rules.

 

[Corduroy]

Three good reasons to get out.

1. To control their own immigrtation

2. To control their own trade deals

3. To get out from under the extensive and completely undemocration regimen of EU bereaucratic rules.

Only #1 would actually apply. The UK won't control its own trade deals to any real extent. If it wants to trade with the EU (and they do) it will have to follow a lot of their bureaucratic rules anyway. Very few countries have real power in negotiating trade deals and that's dependent on the strength of the economy. Leaving the world's largest trading bloc will give them a weaker negotiating hand. Yeah, they'll have more 'control'. More control to dig in stubbornly and get nothing out of it.

But I'm not that committed to arguing either side. The value of having a rational discussion on this would be to arrive at a better conclusion, but that's not happening around here is it? Europsketicism used to be a leftist position. UKIP was founded by leftist intellectuals.

I know things have changed since this buffoon took over

But the leftist arguments still apply even though the racist and nationalistic ones get all the attention and public support.

 

[Colpy]

Only #1 would actually apply. The UK won't control its own trade deals to any real extent. If it wants to trade with the EU (and they do) it will have to follow a lot of their bureaucratic rules anyway. Very few countries have real power in negotiating trade deals and that's dependent on the strength of the economy. Leaving the world's largest trading bloc will give them a weaker negotiating hand. Yeah, they'll have more 'control'. More control to dig in stubbornly and get nothing out of it.

But I'm not that committed to arguing either side. The value of having a rational discussion on this would be to arrive at a better conclusion, but that's not happening around here is it? Europsketicism used to be a leftist position. UKIP was founded by leftist intellectuals.

I know things have changed since this buffoon took over

But the leftist arguments still apply even though the racist and nationalistic ones get all the attention and public support.

Farage is wonderful!!

When the EU Parliament demanded Farage apologize or be fined, he apologized.....to bank clerks.

Gotta love him.

 

[Blackleaf]

Farage is wonderful!!

When the EU Parliament demanded Farage apologize or be fined, he apologized.....to bank clerks.

Gotta love him.

He's the greatest politician in Britain today. This is his referendum. We wouldn't be having it were it not for him or his party.

If Remain win, it will probably be a boost to Ukip, who will win many, many seats at the 2020 election. It's similar to how the SNP lost the Scottish independence referendum but then won 56 out of the 59 Scottish seats at Westminster in the 2015 election, with angry and disgruntled independence supporters backing them. A Remain win in this referendum will see many angry Leavers flocking to Ukip.