Russia, Ukraine reach ceasefire deal in eastern Ukraine

[mentalfloss]

Where's Harper?

Russia, Ukraine reach ceasefire deal in eastern Ukraine

Russia and Ukraine reached a new deal on a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, though even the leaders who negotiated it were downbeat about how far the pact would go towards resolving the 10-month old war that has killed upwards of 5,300 people.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko emerged from marathon talks in the Belarusian capital of Minsk to give separate press conferences announcing that a ceasefire would begin at midnight on Feb. 15. If the fighting stops, the next step would be a pullback of heavy artillery two days later by both the Ukrainian army and the Russian-backed rebels who have been fighting to carve out an independent state in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

While Mr. Putin was visibly pleased after the talks, the other leaders were more reserved. Ms. Merkel said she was under “no illusion” about what had been achieved and that “big hurdles” remained.

In a statement released from Berlin, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said “for some this will not be enough. We also would have wished for more - but this is what the presidents of Ukraine and Russia could agree on.”

Ms. Merkel and Mr. Hollande had pushed the Russian and Ukrainian leaders to end the fighting, amid worries it could spill over into a wider conflict. The United States and Canada are debating sending military aid to Ukraine, a step Ms. Merkel has said could lead to Russia upping its own involvement in the fighting.

Russia, Ukraine reach ceasefire deal in eastern Ukraine - The Globe and Mail

 

[petros]

Where's Harper?

see that Angela women in the picture? She was just here on Monday to get advice.

 

[Blackleaf]

Where's Harper?

Where's Cameron or Obama or Humala or O'Neill or Abbott or Faymann or Christie or Sen or Yang or Neves or Kamoun or Deubet or Bachelet or Sobotka or Thorning-Schmidt or Skerrit or Medina or Kenny or Masimov or Thammavong or Hasler or Sirleaf or Gruevski or Mutharika or Keita or Muscat or Loeak or Hademine or Jugnauth or Mirziyoyev or Wickremesinghe or Rajoy or Loong or Dionne or Malielegaoi or Anthony or Douglas or Key or Turanskaya or Lungu or Tấn Dũng or Pinda or Chan-ocha or Rasulzoda or Bouterse or Rutte or Geingob or Saikhanbileg or Simpson-Miller or Duncan or Netanyahu or Tsipras or Mitchell or Garibashvili or Ondo or Valls or Stubb or Mahlab or Correa or Castro or Borsisov or Khama or Boni or Kirchner or Roger or Solberg or Ponta or Kopacz or Cerar or Persad-Bissessar or Bertello or Zida or Nkurunziza or Fofana or Hinds or Gunnlaugsson or Fico or Berdimuhamedow or Ahoomey-Zunu?

 

[petros]

And First Nations.

 

[Colpy]

That should last about 10 minutes.

Personally, I think NATO should send Ukraine some imaginary A-10s to poke holes in Russia's imaginary T-80 tanks that are not in Ukraine.

 

[Blackleaf]

The French and the Germans can't go too hard on the Russians because they rely on the Russians for much of their gas supply.

 

[Nuggler]

Where's Harper?

Russia, Ukraine reach ceasefire deal in eastern Ukraine

Russia and Ukraine reached a new deal on a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, though even the leaders who negotiated it were downbeat about how far the pact would go towards resolving the 10-month old war that has killed upwards of 5,300 people.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko emerged from marathon talks in the Belarusian capital of Minsk to give separate press conferences announcing that a ceasefire would begin at midnight on Feb. 15. If the fighting stops, the next step would be a pullback of heavy artillery two days later by both the Ukrainian army and the Russian-backed rebels who have been fighting to carve out an independent state in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

While Mr. Putin was visibly pleased after the talks, the other leaders were more reserved. Ms. Merkel said she was under “no illusion” about what had been achieved and that “big hurdles” remained.

In a statement released from Berlin, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said “for some this will not be enough. We also would have wished for more - but this is what the presidents of Ukraine and Russia could agree on.”

Ms. Merkel and Mr. Hollande had pushed the Russian and Ukrainian leaders to end the fighting, amid worries it could spill over into a wider conflict. The United States and Canada are debating sending military aid to Ukraine, a step Ms. Merkel has said could lead to Russia upping its own involvement in the fighting.

Russia, Ukraine reach ceasefire deal in eastern Ukraine - The Globe and Mail

Jesus Harold Christo, Flossy: If Harper was there you'd say he should be staying out of European affairs, and staying home to distribute wealth amongst the Canadian impoverished and drug addicted..........................not that he's gonna do that anyway.

Point is Harper does enough bad shyte to get called on. Start calling him on everything and YOU lose the cred.

Bad enough he was crying like a bitch in that fukkin closet. He can't be in a closet and solving Putin's problems too.

People are gonna start to think he's got a brain and re-elect him..........FFS !!

Self control Floss. Self control.

:shaking2:..........eh.

 

[Blackleaf]

If Harper was there you'd say he should be staying out of European affairs,

It's not really European affairs, is it? It's Russian and Ukrainian affairs.

 

[Nuggler]

It's not really European affairs, is it? It's Russian and Ukrainian affairs.

Oh what the fukk ever, Blackie. I'm just tryin to lead Flossy out of the swamp :lol: Son of a bitch goes spavined on me just as I get the traces lined up.

You look after Queenie and Kuntry. Leave Canadar to me..................;-)

 

[mentalfloss]

A ceasefire is still a good thing even if it is politically motivated by resources.

If Harper was truly motivated by good intentions he would at least make a statement endorsing the ceasefire and uhh.. you know... a continued peace between the two territories.

 

[darkbeaver]

This arrangment will be very temporary. The Ukraine is about to undergo another coup. This time internally generated led and staffed. The Juntas days are numbered. Ukrainians will eject the banking monsters and the zionists looters.

 

[Blackleaf]

This arrangment will be very temporary. The Ukraine is about to undergo another coup. This time internally generated led and staffed. The Juntas days are numbered. Ukrainians will eject the banking monsters and the zionists looters.

It's always the fault of the Jews somewhere along the line, isn't it?

 

[darkbeaver]

It's always the fault of the Jews somewhere along the line, isn't it?

You are a simple minded Limey propagandist. Your opinion is worthless. You should be lobotomized by a pet doctor.

 

[Blackleaf]

You are a simple minded Limey propagandist. Your opinion is worthless. You should be lobotomized by a pet doctor.

Calling me a propagandist? That's ironic.

"It's the Joos' fault! The Joos did it! The Joos are to blame!"

The situation in Ukraine? The Joos are to blame.
9/11? That was the Joos.
Greece going skint? It was the Joos!
Middlebrough knocking Manchester City out of the Cup? That was the big-nosed Joos again.

 

[Kreskin]

Спасибо Вам за большой водки !

 

[petros]

The French and the Germans can't go too hard on the Russians because they rely on the Russians for much of their gas supply.

Poland, France and Ukraine have all the gas the EU needs. The frack attack began last year.

Israeli, Palestinian, Egyptian and Lebanese gas will hit the EU markets in short time. The Soviet and Saudis won't have a Western Market and a hold much longer.

 

[Blackleaf]

Poland, France and Ukraine have all the gas the EU needs. The frack attack began last year.

Israeli, Palestinian, Egyptian and Lebanese gas will hit the EU markets in short time. The Soviet and Saudis won't have a Western Market and a hold much longer.

France has banned fracking everywhere within its territory. France doesn't want anything to do with it, it seems.

The fact of the matter is that France and Germany get a huge amount of their gas from Russia, which could turn off the taps at any moment. That's why Hollande and Merkel are in desperate talks with the Russians and Ukrainians about the situation in Ukraine and why they won't dare to go too hard on the Russians. Russia supplying much of Germany's gas is the main reason why Germany has been taking a soft approach on Russia and not wanting to go too hard on her.

 

[Cliffy]

This arrangment will be very temporary. The Ukraine is about to undergo another coup. This time internally generated led and staffed. The Juntas days are numbered. Ukrainians will eject the banking monsters and the zionists looters.

You are giving the Ukes a lot of cred there.

 

[MHz]

Where's Harper?

The West wasn't invited, probably why there was a deal reached, very sad and very true.
Obama Threatened Putin Before Minsk Meeting – German Media / Sputnik International
Several German media institutions wrote that during the recent phone conversation, US President Barack Obama threatened the Russian President Vladimir Putin with serious consequences for Russia’s alleged involvement in the Ukrainian conflict.

US President Barack Obama warned Vladimir Putin that "the costs for Russia will rise" if the country does not stop its alleged involvement in the Ukrainian crisis, German media wrote. This was in reference to the recent phone conversation between the leaders of two countries, which took place a day before the reconciliation talks on the Ukrainian crisis in Minsk.
"Obama is urging Putin to peace and threatening," the German newspaper "Die Zeit" wrote. According to the newspaper, the US president told Vladimir Putin that he would have to pay a high price if the conflict is not settled.
"Der Spiegel" magazine also noted that Obama's calls for peace contained a threatening tone. The US leader once again accused Russia of military involvement in the Ukrainian conflict. If Russia continues its "aggressive actions" in Ukraine and provides independence supporters with weapons and financial assistance, then "the costs for Russia will rise", Obama warned.

Read more: Obama Threatened Putin Before Minsk Meeting – German Media / Sputnik International
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Who Wants to Die for Poroshenko? According to The Guardian: Nobody - Russia Insider
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Ruslan Kotsaba posted a video addressed to the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, last week in which he said he would rather go to prison for five years for draft-dodging than fight pro-Russia rebels in the country’s east. Now he faces 15 years in jail after being arrested for treason and obstructing the military.
His case is symptomatic of Kiev’s difficulties in mobilising a war-weary society to continue the fight against the rebels, who appear to have an unlimited supply of weapons and training from Russia. As the country nears bankruptcy and the reform programme demanded by the Maidan revolution last year is sidelined by the war effort, the drive to call up new recruits is floundering.
The conflict has cost more than 5,000 lives since it began last spring and Russia shows no signs of toning down its backing for the separatist movement. Poroshenko is due to meet his Russian, French and German counterparts in Minsk on Wednesday, and the financial and emotional burden of months of conflict could mean Ukraine is forced to accept a deal that effectively gives up control of rebel-held territory.
Ukrainian men aged 25-60 are eligible for conscription and 75,000 have been called up, of whom 60% will enter service, Poroshenko claimed last week. Preference is given to men with military experience.
A government decree regulates foreign travel for those subject to mobilisation. It means people could be arrested at border checkpoints, with those guilty of draft-dodging facing up to five years in prison – a law which provided the basis for Kotsaba’s video.

 

[darkbeaver]

You are giving the Ukes a lot of cred there.

It's already a month old, desertions at the front, desertions at the rear and defeat in battle. Punative battalions behind every Ukrainian army assault to shoot retreaters.