China Says No More Democracy For Hong Kong


tay
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China's National People's Congress (NPC) Standing Committee set the stage for a political showdown on Sunday when it rejected democrats' demands for the right to freely choose Hong Kong's next leader in 2017, leading scores of protesters to take to the streets.

Scuffles broke out on Monday during a tense stand-off at the entrance to a center where a senior Chinese official was explaining Beijing's decision, prompting police to use pepper spray amid chaotic scenes inside and outside the venue.


Activists from a movement called Occupy Central have threatened to lock down Hong Kong's financial district on an unspecified date unless Beijing grants full democracy.


"Occupy Central is an illegal activity. If we give in, it will trigger more illegal activities," said Li Fei, deputy secretary general of the NPC Standing Committee, who flew to Hong Kong to explain Beijing's decision.


Pro-democracy activists inside the building heckled Li, shouting slogans and interrupting his speech.


Hong Kong returned to Chinese rule in 1997 with wide-ranging autonomy and freedoms not enjoyed on the mainland under a policy of "one country, two systems".


The activists want universal suffrage, but Communist Party rulers in Beijing say any candidate for the territory's chief executive has to be first approved by a nominating panel - likely to be stacked with pro-Beijing loyalists and making it almost impossible for an opposition democrat to get on the ballot.




Charles Rivkin, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Economic and Business Affairs, said in Singapore the United States backed "free and fair elections and transparency".


"We believe, in the case of Hong Kong, in one country and two systems," he said.


British Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said in July that Britain "would not shy away from defending" one country, two systems.


Britain made no mention of democracy for Hong Kong until the dying days of about 150 years of colonial rule.




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Blackleaf
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Most of Hong Kong should still be British. And those parts that should still be British, that we had no obligation to hand back to China in 1997, would have been much better of still under British rule.
 
Northboy
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Another wave of immigrants to Vancouver I bet.
 
BaalsTears
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Democracy is based on a political theory unique to Western civilization. The theory has arisen on several occasions in the history of the West. Democracy has never arisen in any other civilization. Perhaps democracy is only meant for Western peoples. The spread of democracy to non-Western peoples is a recent phenomenon based solely on the power of Pax Americana. With the ebb of Pax Americana in the current era we are seeing the rollback of democracy among some non-Western peoples among whom it had been planted by America.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Most of Hong Kong should still be British. And those parts that should still be British, that we had no obligation to hand back to China in 1997, would have been much better of still under British rule.

Check out why, land and water. And the Chinese were not putting up any longer with a Brit Colony on their doorstep.
Appears everyone is giving Brits the boot.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Check out why, land and water. And the Chinese were not putting up any longer with a Brit Colony on their doorstep.
Appears everyone is giving Brits the boot.

Hong Kong is split into three parts: Hong Kong Island, Kowloon Peninsula, and the New Territories.

Only the New Territories was put under 99-year lease in 1898.

Hong Kong Island (after the First Opium War between Britain and China from 1839-1842) and the Kowloon Peninsula (in 1860) were ceded to Britain in perpetuity - i.e. for eternity - so Britain was under no obligation at all to hand these back to China in 1997. It was well within its rights to keep them forever, like Gibraltar.

It was only the New Territories that Britain was obliged to hand back in 1997 yet, for some reason, we gave China the whole of Hong Kong back. We shouldn't have done.
 

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