Harper's Pro-Israeli stance compared to other nations


mentalfloss
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Ottawa’s pro-Israeli message goes beyond more measured global response: Tim Harper

As the world watched the civilian death toll in Gaza climb over the weekend, the international response was largely built on three pillars.

Most capitals emphasized Israel’s right to defend itself, the need to protect innocent civilians and the need for a mutual ceasefire.

But in Canada, the tone and the message were different.

Israel had not just the right to defend itself, but the obligation, according to Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.

The end to the conflict was the responsibility of Hamas, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said.

And neither man expressed much in the way of optimism for a cessation of hostilities or concern for the number of civilians who have perished under the Israeli bombardment, a number which could be three out of every four of the more than 160 killed so far in the Gaza.

Harper, in fact, issued a statement Sunday that made only scant reference to civilian deaths.

“It is evident that Hamas is deliberately using human shields to further terror in the region,’’ he said.

Baird mentioned nothing of this in a media briefing Friday, but did so in a statement Saturday scolding the United Nations for calling for Israeli restraint. He, too, placed the blame on Hamas.

“Canada mourns the death and suffering of innocent civilians in Gaza. Responsibility rests solely with Hamas and its allies, who launched and continue to feed this crisis,’’ he said.

The Harper government clearly believes Hamas is now so badly wounded that the Israeli offensive should continue until the terrorist organization is massively degraded, if not eliminated.

Harper’s “unequivocal” support for Israel will surprise no one here or abroad and Baird’s aggressive pushback against the United Nations has also lost its ability to surprise.
Baird is correct when he says there is no moral equivalency between a democratic state and a terrorist organization, and that Hamas militants are hiding within its civilian population is abominable.

Except that the population of Gaza is so tightly constricted, the innocents really have nowhere to run.
Israel says Hamas leaders are sending civilians back into homes, even after warnings of impending strikes, warnings delivered with either a rocket, a so-called “knock on the roof,” or a phone call.

But in some instances, death came without a calling card.
An Israeli air strike that destroyed the home of a cousin of the Gaza police chief and a neighbouring mosque came without warning, residents said. It killed 18, including children, and wounded 50.

There had been a knock on the roof at the home for those with mental and physical challenges, but staff ignored it, so certain were they that they could not possibly be on the Israeli hit list.

The attack killed two residents and wounded three.

Canada’s two opposition parties have been more circumspect, but neither was eager to take on Ottawa’s official position and that may mark a sea change in the country’s Middle East position which is less and less a Conservative position and increasingly an all-party consensus.

Both Liberal foreign affairs critic Marc Garneau and his NDP counterpart Paul Dewar preached restraint, de-escalation and protection of civilians.

One Liberal MP who is in Tel Aviv, Newfoundland’s Gerry Byrne, watched Israel’s Iron Dome repel an attack, then took to social media to praise the courage of individual Israelis in the face of terrorism.

Internationally, the tone was more measured than the end-game message from Ottawa.
British Foreign Secretary William Hague said, while Israel has the right to defend itself, the world has “deep concern” over civilian casualties and the entire world wanted to see a de-escalation.

Germany’s foreign minister is expected in Israel Monday for talks with the Israelis and the Palestinians. France has also signalled it will help broker a ceasefire.

But any sign of anything but unwavering Israeli support invites criticism from the right.
In the U.S., President Barack Obama is facing withering criticism from Republicans for what they believe is a tepid response that also spoke of the protection of civilians and a call for de-escalation.

In Ottawa, mutual ceasefires and peace talks are only for the weak-kneed and faint of heart.

Of course, we have long since forfeited any role in forging a peace in the region.

“Failure by the international community to condemn these reprehensible actions would encourage these terrorists to continue their appalling actions,’’ Harper said.

“Canada calls on its allies and partners to recognize that these terrorist acts are unacceptable and that solidarity with Israel is the best way of stopping the conflict.’’
Tim Harper is a national affairs writer. His column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday. tharper@thestar.ca (external - login to view) Twitter:@nutgraf1

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petros
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He has to protect the duck park named after him.
 
Spade
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He insists longshoremen be called stevedores.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

He insists longshoremen be called stevedores.

That's actually funny!!
 
taxslave
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Nice to know that Canada has a leader that will stand up for what is right.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Nice to know that Canada has a leader that will stand up for what is right.

Exactly!!
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Nice to know that Canada has a leader that will stand up for what is right.

Yep, Justin Bieber's a real square guy.
 
Locutus
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tim harper has been mad a very long time now.
 
mentalfloss
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Middle East Conflict: Canada Accuses UN Official Of Unfairly Criticizing Israeli Operation In Gaza

OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government is taking aim at the United Nations once again, this time over comments a senior official made about Israel's attacks on Gaza.

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says the UN High Commissioner's criticism of Israel's response to rocket attacks from Gaza are uncalled for.

Navi Pillay said this week that there should be an immediate ceasefire, citing reports of many civilian casualties.

In a statement issued Saturday, Baird accused Pillay of focusing her comments on Israel and said that is neither "helpful nor reflective of the reality of this crisis."

Baird says there can't be any "moral equivalence" between a democratic state like Israel and Hamas, which he calls a listed terrorist organization with a blatant disregard for human life.

He says Israel's military has taken extraordinary steps to reduce civilian casualties.

Harper has been a fervent supporter of Israel and a long-time critic of the United Nations and its officials.

Israeli officials have said round-the-clock airstrikes have hit Hamas hard, taking out some of the militant group's rocket-launchers and storage sites.

Israel took action this week in response to what it said was weeks of heavy rocket fire out of the Hamas-controlled Gaza.

Middle East Conflict: Canada Accuses UN Official Of Unfairly Criticizing Israeli Operation In Gaza (external - login to view)
 
lone wolf
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Odd how the only common element in every Muddled East conflict is you-know-who - and if they're ignored, they'll get involved somehow
 
skookumchuck
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I assume that flossie is completely onboard with the UN and the Eurotrash, well at least until Mulch, er, whatever his name is, is not.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Odd how the only common element in every Muddled East conflict is you-know-who - and if they're ignored, they'll get involved somehow

The Syrian conflict involves "you-know-who" only to the extent they were secretly treating the injured from both sides in a humanitarian gesture that had to be hidden because Allah forbid! the jihadists being touched by JOOS!!

Iraq vs ISIS has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

The Kurds vs Iraq has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

The Great Egyptian Revolution....and then NOT has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

In other words, I call BULLSHYTE!!!
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The Syrian conflict involves "you-know-who" only to the extent they were secretly treating the injured from both sides in a humanitarian gesture that had to be hidden because Allah forbid! the jihadists being touched by JOOS!!

Iraq vs ISIS has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

The Kurds vs Iraq has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

The Great Egyptian Revolution....and then NOT has exactly WHAT to do with "you-know-who"??

In other words, I call BULLSHYTE!!!

Call bullshyte all you want. That just means you assumed to know
 
Cliffy
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When civilian residential areas are specifically targeted by Israeli bombs, I call murder. No Israelis were killed by Hamas rockets yet Israel targets civilians. I have no sympathy or support for Israel or Hamas. I call BS on this whole new round of murder. I would not doubt that the three murdered teens are a false flag to justify bombing the crap out of Gaza. Israel must need more space for their illegal settlements.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Nice to know that Canada has a leader that will stand up for what is right.

ditto

Glad Harper is running this country, and not somebody who thinks Sharia Law should be allowed in Canada (external - login to view)... Gawd!!
 
skookumchuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

When civilian residential areas are specifically targeted by Israeli bombs, I call murder. No Israelis were killed by Hamas rockets yet Israel targets civilians. I have no sympathy or support for Israel or Hamas. I call BS on this whole new round of murder. I would not doubt that the three murdered teens are a false flag to justify bombing the crap out of Gaza. Israel must need more space for their illegal settlements.

So the Jews (and the hundreds of thousands of non Jewish Arabs who live quietly with them) should wait until one of the poor quality but deadly missiles scores a direct hit? Would you Cliffy? Of course you would, yup, uh huh....
 
gore0bsessed
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Nice to know that Canada has a leader that will stand up for what is right.

what's right about it? seems unequivocally wrong to ignore wrong-doing of one side (israel) and place the sole blame on the palestinians.
 
DaSleeper
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The Dhimwit (external - login to view) is back!
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Odd how the only common element in every Muddled East conflict is you-know-who - and if they're ignored, they'll get involved somehow

That would be muslim terrorists. They are now rapidly taking over Europe as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessedView Post

what's right about it? seems unequivocally wrong to ignore wrong-doing of one side (israel) and place the sole blame on the palestinians.

Haven't seen any wrong doing by Israel yet in this. Or do you expect them to just let terrorists lob bombs into their country without fighting back?
 
petros
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It's Obama and Iran's fault.
 
mentalfloss
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This **** has got to stop.

Israeli warplanes continue to pound Gaza as world urges calm - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site (external - login to view)
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuckView Post

So the Jews (and the hundreds of thousands of non Jewish Arabs who live quietly with them) should wait until one of the poor quality but deadly missiles scores a direct hit? Would you Cliffy? Of course you would, yup, uh huh....

Well the Palestinians are waiting for the same hit since they haven't hit sh it yet.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This **** has got to stop.

Israeli warplanes continue to pound Gaza as world urges calm - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site (external - login to view)

Do your research. Egypt attempted to bring about a 40 hour cease-fire, after which negotiations would begin on a long term truce.

Israel agreed.

Hamas refused.

The fact of the matter is Israel did not retaliate until 150 rockets had been fired into Israel. They did, however, repeatedly urge Hamas to cease and desist. They refused.

EVERY death in Gaza is the direct result of Hamas actions.

I would have no problem with Israel going in with ground troops and killing every idiot militant in Gaza, and sending Mossad hit teams to Qatar to kill Hamas leaders. Yep, that is where they are hiding out.............
 
darkbeaver
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It's not hard to tell who works the strings on Canada's political slaves. They're worse than the garbage they lick.
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

It's not hard to tell who works the strings on Canada's political slaves. They're worse than the garbage they lick.

Joo hater to the end ain't you?
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This **** has got to stop.

Israeli warplanes continue to pound Gaza as world urges calm - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site (external - login to view)

It will stop shortly after the terrorists stop lobbing bombs into Israel. Until that time Israel should flatten one muzzie town for each bomb lobbed into Israel.
 
skookumchuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This **** has got to stop.

Israeli warplanes continue to pound Gaza as world urges calm - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site (external - login to view)

Why do you not just admit that you hate Jews also?
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Joo hater to the end ain't you?

Oh you think there's an end coming eh. End of what? Sleepy, this is a cycle, ya reap what ya sow. Tick tick tick a thousand years go by, one day yer standing in the sun and then you aint. And that goes of forever, the light and the dark. It,s very good to have such bad teachers. gotta love them though, cuz they hate that most of all

Isn't it a marvel,the utility Adalph has still after all these years. In a few centuries he will replace the tired old Satan.

Hard to find another dead guy who wields so much power.

I think I saw him in Wal-Nart the other day. He regularly shows up on toast and in coffee cream.
 
mentalfloss
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Finally.

Israel accepts Egypt proposal to end Gaza conflict (external - login to view)
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Oh you think there's an end coming eh. End of what? Sleepy, this is a cycle, ya reap what ya sow. Tick tick tick a thousand years go by, one day yer standing in the sun and then you aint.

This hasn't ended in part because everyone frets about conflict.

Turn 'em loose in the school yard and let them settle this in the manner that they demand, at least in the way that the Palestine talking heads seem to go on about

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

And that goes of forever, the light and the dark. It,s very good to have such bad teachers. gotta love them though, cuz they hate that most of all

One might also expect that the Israelis might reap all that they've sown relative to the food, fuel, medical supplies, construction of homes, roads, water, etc that they've contributed to the Palestinians in that area over the years.

Somehow, methinks that this will be conveniently forgotten when the time comes
 
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