UKIP MEPS turn backs in protest as EU anthem is played in EU parliament

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Is this another sign that Britain is moving towards the exit of the hated anti-democracy EU which, yet again, is completely and utterly ignoring the public?

As usual, it seems to be only the British protesting about the EU's casual disregard for election results.

Britain's 24 new UKIP MEPs, elected in the recent EU elections which UKIP won in the UK, yesterday heroically turned their backs on the EU anthem - Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" - in a pro-democracy protest as the EU Parliament was opened in Strasbourg. And Britain's 19 newly-elected Tory MEPs refused to stand during the anthem.

The British nationalist, anti-EU party's public show of dissent came after the German socialist Martin Schulz was reappointed president of the European Parliament - in a shady 'backroom stitch up' sparking anger in Britain.

Mr Schulz was backed by MEPs to carry on in the £213,000 a year role, despite the fact that his Socialist group LOST May's European elections.


The Left-wing MEP, who has also attacked tax havens, will pocket £124,000 of his cash in special allowances without paying any taxation at all.


In a show of complete contempt for democracy, Mr Schulz was elected by MEPs in Strasbourg yesterday after they observed the European anthem.

Although most MEPs stood up for it, British Tory MEPs sat quietly while UKIP MEPs turned their backs on the orchestra and the EU flag.

Steven Woolfe, UKIP's Economics Spokesman and one of the North West of England's three UKIP MEPs, said the show of protest was against the 'done deal' for Mr Schulz's election as president of the EU parliament.

He said: 'Only the Labour group in the EU and their Socialist partners clapping Shultz in his speech for EU Parliament president.'

UKIP deputy leader Paul Nuttall, another MEP for the North West of England, added: 'We don't recognise or respect the EU flag or anthem. They are both symbols of our servitude inside a political union which the British people reject.

'We will do everything we can in European Parliament to oppose the Federalist system which ignores our national democracy and pushes millions of people across Europe into poverty and unemployment. We stand up for our people, not the EU flag and anthem.'

Labour's lickspittle stance towards the EU and its complete disregard for democracy comes as no surprise, since they're the party who, when they were in power under Blair, gave away part of Britain's EU rebate which Mrs Thatcher so heroically managed to win for us.

For part of the year the EU Parliament has to up sticks from Belgian capital Brussels to Strasbourg in eastern France, at great cost to the EU taxpayer, for no other reason other than to suit French egos.

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UKIP leader joined his party's MEPs turning their backs as anthem played

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By Tom Mctague, Mail Online Deputy Political Editor
1 July 2014
Daily Mail



UKIP leader Nigel Farage and Britain's 23 other UKIP MEPs turned their backs in protest in the EU Parliament in Strasbourg yesterday after the German socialist Martin Schulz was reappointed president of the European Parliament despite the fact that his Socialist group LOST May's European elections. For part of the year the EU Parliament has to up sticks from Belgian capital Brussels to Strasbourg in eastern France, at great cost to the EU taxpayer, for no other reason other than to suit French egos

Nigel Farage was today accused of 'shocking disrespect' after turning his back on the EU's national anthem as the European Parliament was opened in France.

The UKIP leader's public show of dissent came after the German socialist Martin Schulz was reappointed president of the European Parliament - in a shady 'backroom stitch up' sparking anger in Britain.

Mr Schulz was backed by MEPs to carry on in the £213,000 a year role, despite the fact that his Socialist group lost May's European elections.


Heroes: Nigel Farage and other UKIP MEPs turned their backs as an orchestra performed the European anthem in the European parliament in Strasbourg


Mr Farage dismissed the election of European Parliament president Martin Schulz as a 'stitch up'



Scotland's newly-elected UKIP MEP David Coburn, wearing a kilt, climbs stairs as he attends the opening session of the European Parliament yesterday


Mr Schulz was elected by MEPs in Strasbourg yesterday after they observed the European anthem.

Although most MEPs stood up for it, British Tory MEPs sat quietly while UKIP MEPs turned their backs on the orchestra and the EU flag.

Steven Woolfe said the show of protest was against the 'done deal' for Mr Schulz's election as president of the EU parliament.

He said: 'Only the Labour group in the EU and their Socialist partners clapping Shultz in his speech for EU Parliament president.'


Steven Woolfe, UKIP's Economics Spokesman and one of the North West of England's three UKIP MEPs, said the show of protest was against the 'done deal' for Mr Schulz's election as president of the EU parliament.

UKIP deputy leader Paul Nuttall MEP added: 'We don't recognise or respect the EU flag or anthem. They are both symbols of our servitude inside a political union which the British people reject.

'We will do everything we can in European Parliament to oppose the Federalist system which ignores our national democracy and pushes millions of people across Europe into poverty and unemployment. We stand up for our people, not the EU flag and anthem.'

But Liberal Democrat MEP Catherine Bearder criticised the UKIP MEPs for their 'shocking disrespect' during the opening ceremony, describing their actions as "rude'.

MEPs from Parliament's three main pro-EU groups agreed to keep Mr Schulz in place after he backed his rival Jean-Claude Juncker to become president of the European Commission last week.

In his role Mr Schulz - who has campaigned against budget cuts across Europe - will take home a pay and perks package worth over £213,000 a year.


Martin Schulz (left) has been chosen to be the European Parliament's president for another term, risking further anger from the British Prime Minister


Former Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean Claude Juncker was backed to become European Commission president by German Chancellor Angela Merkel

EUROPE'S NATIONAL ANTHEM

The EU's 'national anthem' comes from Beethoven's 'Ode to Joy'

In 1985 European leaders adopted the tune as its official anthem.

According to the EU the anthem 'expresses the European ideals of freedom, peace and solidarity'.

But the EU insists: 'The European anthem is not intended to replace the national anthems of the EU countries but rather to celebrate the values they share.'



The Left-wing MEP, who has also attacked tax havens, will pocket £124,000 of his cash in special allowances without paying any taxation at all.

He won yesterday's vote by 409 to 314 - despite refusuing to turn up for a debate between different candidates, including British Tory MEP Sajjad Karim on Monday night.

Mr Schulz was the spitzenkandidat - or leading candidate - for the Socialists to become the European Commission. But he lost out in the race for Brussels' top job to Mr Juncker who was backed by EU leaders on Friday.

Mr Farage said: 'There are no losers among the EU elite after this election. Everyone is a winner.

'This is a big stitch up. For them, it's damn all to do with democracy and it's all about the carving up of power among the EU elites.'

Pawel Swidlicki, of the British think tank Open Europe, added: 'The re-election of Schulz via a secret ballot following a backroom stitch-up between the main centre-right and centre-left blocks epitomises the EU's democratic flaws and exposes the hollow nature of the arguments in favour of spitzenkandidaten.

'Schulz is an aggressive proponent of increasing the power of the European Parliament and so will be a big obstacle to EU reform.'

Mr Schulz has been the president, or speaker of the EU assembly, since January 2012. His reelection makes him the first MEP in the parliament's history to serve two consecutive terms.

As president of the assembly, the German MEP will become one of the most well paid parliamentarians in the world.


Brussels' three unelected presidents - Herman Van Rompuy, left, Jose Manuel Barroso, centre, and Martin Schulz, right, accepted the Nobel Peace prize on behalf of the EU in 2012. Mr Van Rompuy (dubbed "Rumpy Pumpy" by the British) is the president of the European Council, representing EU leaders. Mr Barroso is the president of the Commission - Brussels' governing bureaucracy - until he is replaced by Jean-Claude Juncker. And Mr Schulz is the president of the European Parliament - representing MEPs

According to the Telegraph he will receive over half of his income in special presidential tax free allowances - with annual 'subsistence' payments worth £89,000 and a 'residence' allowance worth over £35,000.

He will also receive an extra 'representation allowance' worth £14,000 a year as well as having two limousines, BMW 7s with drivers for his personal use.

The rest of the EU's plumb jobs will be agreed in a fortnight - with the president of the European Council of EU leaders and the new EU foreign policy chief up for grabs.

The Danish PM Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Dutch leader Mark Rutte and Andrus Ansip, the former Estonian leader, are in the running to replace Herman Van Rompuy as EU Council president.

Federica Mogherini, the Italian foreign minister, meanwhile is the favourite to replace Baroness Ashton as EU foreign minister.
 
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National leaders must now 'obey' Germany, claims Farage as he attacks spectacle of EU flag being 'goosestepped' around Brussels to European anthem

UKIP leader told MEPs the European Union was guilty of 'naked militarism'

Speech came in first session of new parliament after May's EU elections, in which UKIP increased their number of MEPs from 13 to 24

He said Cameron had 'no chance' of winning fundamental reforms of union

Came after Farage turned his back as EU played

Party said they did not 'recognise or respect the EU flag or anthem'

Comes after Martin Schulz chosen by MEPs to carry on as Parliament chief

The vote was taken in secret sparking accusations of EU 'carve up'

Socialist MEP wants more power for Brussels over national Parliaments

Schulz backed by supporters of Jean-Claude Juncker in 'backroom' deal


By Tom Mctague, Mail Online Deputy Political Editor
2 July 2014
Daily Mail

Nigel Farage today accused MEPs of descending into 'naked militarism' by 'goosestepping' the EU flag around Brussels.

The UKIP leader accused European leaders of ignoring growing euroscepticism across the continent by pushing ahead with 'ever closer union'.

The controversial remarks, in the European Parliament today, came after he turned his back as the EU anthem was played to open up the new political session yesterday.


Nigel Farage addressed the European Parliament today during a debate on the last EU summit, in which the UK lost a vote against Jean-Claude Juncker becoming Commission President by 26 votes to 2 (Britain's only ally being Hungary)


The UKIP leader said David Cameron was 'whistling in the wind' if he thought he could convince every other EU country to hand powers back to Britain

In his speech Mr Farage said the Prime Minister's humilating defeat trying to block Jean-Claude Juncker from becoming Commission President proved that Britain would not be able to renegotiate its position in the EU.

He said Mr Cameron was 'whistling in the wind' because the master of Europe was Germany's Angela Merkel who was not going to give way.

Mr Farage said: 'Dave obviously misunderstood the mood. After some initial encouragement from a few other member states thinking they might block Mr Juncker.

'He ran into the new golden rule of EU politics which is when Mrs Merkel speaks the other member states obey.'

He added: 'Having lost 26-2 in the last vote.. are we going to win 28-0 in the council of ministers? I don't think so, it isn't going to happen, we are whistling in the wind and we are closer now to exit than ever.'

The UKIP leader pointed to the way the EU's top jobs had been 'stitched up' between the main federalist parties - who all want more power for Brussels - as proof that nothing had changed.

He said: 'What have we seen in the last 24 hours? We've seen naked militarism, with the EU flag being virtually goosestepped around the yard, we've seen the European anthem.'


Mr Farage said the EU was descending into 'naked militarism' by parading its flag around Brussels like a nation state



UKIP condemned the European Parliament's presidency being given to German Martin Schulz - despite the fact that Schulz's group of Socialist parties had LOST the May elections


Mr Farage's controversial speech today came after he was accused of 'shocking disrespect' for turning his back on the EU's national anthem as the European Parliament was opened in France yesterday.

The UKIP leader's public show of dissent came after the German socialist Martin Schulz was reappointed president of the European Parliament - in a shady 'backroom stitch up' sparking anger in Britain.

Mr Schulz was backed by MEPs to carry on in the £213,000 a year role, despite the fact that his Socialist group lost May's European elections.

Mr Schulz was elected by MEPs in Strasbourg after they observed the European anthem.

Although most MEPs stood up for it, British Tory MEPs sat quietly while UKIP MEPs turned their backs on the orchestra and the EU flag.

Steven Woolfe said the show of protest was against the 'done deal' for Mr Schulz's election as president of the EU parliament.
 
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If the EU in/out referendum were held now, a majority of Britons would either definitely vote to leave the EU or probably vote to leave

 
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Many Euroskeptics have, for many years, said that the EU is nothing more than a tool for Germany to achieve what it failed to do in two World Wars - to get hegemony over Europe.

As usual rabid, swivel-eyed Europhiles dismissed all this talk as nonsense, but now it seems that, once again, the Euroskeptics, just as they were over the Euro, are right.

Nearly 25 years ago, a Tory minister told newspaper journalist Dominic Lawson - the son of Nigel Lawson, who was the Chancellor of the Exchequer in Thatcher's government between 1983 and 1989, and the brother of TV cook Nigella Lawson - that the EU (then known as the EEC, it not becoming known as the EU until 1993) is merely just a German racket to take over Europe - and he lost his job as a result.

But now, Dominic Lawson asks if that Tory minister was right all along.....

Is the EU just a German racket to take over Europe? Nearly 25 years ago, a Tory minister told DOMINIC LAWSON it was - and lost his job in the firestorm that followed. But was he right all along?

By Dominic Lawson
4 July 2014
Daily Mail


Margaret Thatcher demanded the resignation of Nicholas Ridley, pictured

In the wake of David Cameron’s unsuccessful battle to prevent the German-backed Luxembourger Jean-Claude Juncker from becoming President of the European Commission, the Conservative MP Stephen O’Brien bellowed across the chamber of the House of Commons that the PM should ‘take inspiration from the fact that in a previous battle of Britain we saw off many Junkers before’.

This contrived attempt to link the current power struggle within the EU to the fight against the Nazis in World War II — Junkers was the company that built the Stuka dive-bomber — brings back memories of what a much more distinguished Conservative MP said to me 24 years ago.

This was Nicholas Ridley, the Secretary of State for Industry in Margaret Thatcher’s final administration.

In the first week of July 1990, I had gone to his Oxfordshire home to conduct an interview for The Spectator, which I then edited. At some point I asked him, in quite a desultory fashion, about the drive towards European Monetary Union (EMU).

It was a light-the-blue-touch-paper moment — emphasised by the way the chain-smoking Ridley dragged hard on his cigarette between making his explosive points: ‘This is all a German racket designed to take over the whole of Europe.

‘It has to be thwarted. This rushed takeover by the Germans on the worst possible basis, with the French behaving like poodles to the Germans, is absolutely intolerable . . . I’m not against giving up sovereignty in principle, but not to this lot.

You might just as well give it up to Adolf Hitler, frankly.’

Startled, I interjected that the then German Chancellor, Helmut Kohl, was surely preferable to Hitler — he wouldn’t be dropping bombs on us, after all.

If anything, this made Ridley even more vehement: ‘I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather have the shelters and the chance to fight back, than simply being taken over by economics.

‘He’ll soon be coming here and trying to say that this is what we should do on the banking side and this is what our taxes should be. I mean, he’ll soon be trying to take over everything . . . You don’t understand the British people if you don’t understand this point about them. They can be dared.

They can be moved. But being bossed by a German — it would cause absolute mayhem in this country, and rightly, I think.’


David Cameron, pictured, made an unsuccessful bid to prevent the German-backed Luxembourger Jean-Claude Juncker from becoming President of the European Commission

I should add that Ridley was completely sober (he drove me back to his local station afterwards) and would occasionally glance at the tape-recorder that I had placed in front of him. But he clearly underestimated just how much offence his words would cause — especially as the then President of the Bundesbank, Karl Otto Pohl, was due to visit Britain the following week.

In the uproar that ensued following the publication of the interview, Margaret Thatcher immediately demanded Ridley’s resignation.

Three months later, she gave the go-ahead for the pound to join the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM), then seen as the precursor to membership of full European Monetary Union.

That made me feel less bad about Ridley losing his job over my interview with him, since I imagine he would have detested the idea of being part of a government that had joined the ERM.

And when German refusal to countenance sterling devaluation within the ERM led to Britain’s humiliating exit on September 16, 1992 (Black Wednesday), he would probably have felt vindicated.

Largely as a result of that fiasco, which all but destroyed the Tories’ reputation for economic competence, there was never much chance of Britain giving up its currency for the euro — however much that disappointed Tony Blair as Prime Minister.

Instead, it was the Greek people who demonstrated what Ridley warned would be the consequence of joining a common currency run along lines approved by Germany.


German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that her government would have to have 'oversight' - Uberwachung - of the over-indulged Greek public sector

When the German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that her government would have to have ‘oversight’ — Uberwachung — of the grotesquely over-indulged Greek public sector, to ensure the necessary reduction of their euro-denominated debts, there were riots in Athens.

Greek newspapers depicted the German government as Nazis, with Merkel as Reichsfuhrer, complete with swastika armband.

While it is true that Nazi Germany had occupied Greece during World War II, the only present-day Nazis in Athens are Greek, in the form of the unrepentantly fascist party Golden Dawn, which won seven per cent of the popular vote in 2012.



Attack: A street poster in Greece - which was invaded by Nazi Germany in 1941 - depicted Angela Merkel in a Nazi uniform with a swastika surrounded by the EU stars. The accompanying words describe her as a 'public nuisance'.


Satirical: Cartoons appearing in Greek newspapers have drawn comparisons with the Nazis. Germany has never been popular with the Greeks (and, indeed, other Europeans) since WWII


Golden Dawn is, in fact, the most odious of the national political reactions not just to the euro but also another aspect of the attempt to build a federal Europe: completely uncontrolled immigration within the single market.

The Front National in France is perhaps the most powerful of these movements — like Golden Dawn, the party led by Marine Le Pen wants its government to withdraw from the euro, and to re-establish a national currency free of any direct German political influence.

This, however, is where the French should only blame themselves, rather than Germany.

While Ridley saw France as ‘a poodle’ going along with a German strategy to control Europe through a single currency, the truth — as leaked official documents later revealed — was that it was all along the French who had pushed the rapid adoption of the euro on a reluctant Germany.

The French President, François Mitterrand, saw a reunified Germany with the mighty Deutschemark as too powerful an independent force and believed that somehow the loss of its own currency would make the country, with which it had fought three bloody wars since the 1870s, a less threatening neighbour.


With an area of 137,847 sq miles, Germany is the seventh-largest country in Europe after Russia, Ukraine, France, Spain, Sweden and Norway and the fourth-largest in the EU. Its population of 82 million is the largest in the EU. However that population is shrinking and is likely to be overtaken by Britain and France


The Front National led by Marine Le Pen wants its government to withdraw from the euro, and to re-establish a national currency free of any direct German political influence

Chancellor Kohl agreed to this with some misgivings, knowing that the German people trusted the Deutschemark and the Bundesbank more than any other institution — and it was only by promising his electors that there would be no pooling of national debts within the eurozone, that he was able to do the ‘fix’ with Mitterrand.

On the other hand, it is a nonsense to have a common currency without the richer parts of the zone underwriting the debts of the poorer geographic areas: it is the German refusal to do this that has helped to blight Southern Europe.

All this could be described as conforming to the dystopia predicted by Nick Ridley to me 24 years ago.

But in other respects I believe that Ridley — who was 16 when the full horror of the Nazis’ concentration camps was revealed in 1945 — traduced modern Germany.

While Adolf Hitler, indeed, had a plan to dominate Europe, and World War I (which was triggered 100 years ago this week) was principally caused by Germany’s desire for mastery on the continent, the German political class post-1945 has been characterised above all by the desire not to throw their weight around within Europe and to subsume their national identity within a European one.

That is one reason why Angela Merkel broke her promise to David Cameron to help in the fight to prevent the ultra-federalist Juncker from becoming President of the European Commission.

She was confronted in her own country by the claim that the European Parliament had agreed to Juncker’s candidature and that it was deeply un-European for her to override its wishes, whatever her view as a purely national leader.

And the one thing that a modern German leader cannot be seen to be is ‘un-European’ (not for nothing is it said that when someone tells you only that he is ‘European’ then he has revealed himself to be a German).

This has been most brilliantly set out in a recent paper by the German historian Andreas Rödder titled From Kaiser Wilhelm To Chancellor Merkel — The German Question On The European Stage.

As Rödder writes: ‘Particularly after German reunification, the German political elites, fearing any suspicions of hegemonic aspirations and resolved to avoid any new 1914 experience, finally reinforced the German propensity to prioritise European integration at the price even of the strategic demands of leadership.’

And he unearths an extraordinary remark from a rueful Chancellor Kohl back in 1990 (the year of my interview with Nick Ridley): ‘The alternative to EMU [the Economic and Monetary Union] is back to Kaiser Wilhelm and that doesn’t help us.’

More ominously, Rödder sees no happy resolution of the ‘discrepancy between Germany’s veritable pro-European ideology on the one hand and massive foreign suspicions of Germany’s aspirations to hegemony and ruthless dominance’.


David Cameron was unsuccessful in his bid to block Jean-Claude Juncker, pictured right, from becoming President of the European Commission

But perhaps it should gratify British readers of his tract that he quotes Margaret Thatcher as provider of the most penetrating analysis of this problem, after she had retired from the fray: ‘The desire among modern German politicians to merge their national identity into a wider European one is understandable enough, but it presents great difficulties to self-conscious nation states in Europe.

‘In effect, the Germans, because they are nervous of governing themselves, want to establish a European system in which no nation will govern itself. Such a system could only be unstable in the long term.’

That is a subtler and more profound insight than provided by Nick Ridley, and infinitely more so than by the odd present-day Tory MP, intoxicated by David Cameron’s grand-standing but futile battle to influence the appointment of the man now charged with running the entire system of EU-wide treaties and legislation.

Cameron made the error of thinking that if he could get on the right side of the leader of Germany, he could achieve what he wanted for Britain in Europe.

The late Nicholas Ridley would probably have said: well, that’s what comes of putting your trust in Germans.

But the truth is it is Germany’s obsession with being seen as ‘good Europeans’ which may well lead to the biggest mess of all.

The problem in Europe is not so much German hegemony as a complete absence of leadership.


 
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