Hitler's Legacy

#juan
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Is there a danger that Hitler's book,"Mein Kampf" could help spawn another monster?

Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf at centre of fresh controversy - World - CBC News
 
DaSleeper
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All we need now is a readers' digest version of mein kampf for left wing university students to peruse.......
 
#juan
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I've read Hitler's meandering rant and I don't think there is much danger. The more people who read the damn thing, the more people will see what a psychotic dork he was.
 
taxslave
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No doubt some revisionist will try to have it banned.
 
#juan
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I have to admit I read a translated version, so I can't say I understand how the book seemed to hypnotize millions of Germans. I can only assume that a book written by an absolute, all powerful, ruler who could lock you up for having the wrong attitude, probably helped make it a "best seller".
I read the "Ford" translation which is considered by most to be the best translation.
Last edited by #juan; Jun 11th, 2014 at 08:40 AM..
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I have to admit I read a translated version, so I can't say I understand how the book seemed to hypnotize millions of Germans. I can only assume that a book written by an absolute, all powerful, ruler who could lock you up for having the wrong attitude, probably helped make it a "best seller".

Different times, different circumstances. Germany was in prety tough shape in that time.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Different times, different circumstances. Germany was in prety tough shape in that time.

Absolutely. Germany was in the depths of depression and probably the most fertile ground for somebody like Hitler who told them how good they were and how their problems were all the fault of others,,...The Jews.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
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And the fault of England and France for putting them in their state after WWI.


Not saying he was right or wrong, but people were desperate & poor and the best way to deal with it is to blame everybody else, focus on that anger and use it to get yourself out of the mess you're in at the expense of those you blame.


.... It worked..... for a while. Then they went too far. They went waaaay too far.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

And the fault of England and France for putting them in their state after WWI.


Not saying he was right or wrong, but people were desperate & poor and the best way to deal with it is to blame everybody else, focus on that anger and use it to get yourself out of the mess you're in at the expense of those you blame.


.... It worked..... for a while. Then they went too far. They went waaaay too far.

I've heard that before. I don't agree. I think it's like a speedball (an injection of heroin and amphetamine). It makes you feel really great right up to where you die.

So, yeah, saying he was right or wrong. I vote wrong.
 
Blackleaf
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I read Mein Kampf at college way back when. There was a copy of it always lying on the table in the college's library, so I used to read it there.
 
Corduroy
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

I read Mein Kampf at college way back when. There was a copy of it always lying on the table in the college's library, so I used to read it there.

I knew it.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I've read Hitler's meandering rant and I don't think there is much danger. The more people who read the damn thing, the more people will see what a psychotic dork he was.

I agree. It should remain in publication and accessible to those who want to read it.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Is there a danger that Hitler's book,"Mein Kampf" could help spawn another monster?

Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf at centre of fresh controversy - World - CBC News

I don't think it would create a monster that wasn't already in the making when they picked the book up. If normal people read it in the right context its harmless. I read it in grade 10, it was rather dull. It had some interesting parts though. It surprises me that he made a lot of his plans public nearly a decade before coming to power and still no one really took him seriously til it was too late.

Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I have to admit I read a translated version, so I can't say I understand how the book seemed to hypnotize millions of Germans.

Not sure that it really did. It didn't sell very well til Hitler was already in power. At that point it was almost mandatory to have a copy, how many actually bothered to read it? Not enough sadly.
 
Twila
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Any one read Ingo Hasselbach's Furher-Ex?

Very interesting read. Seemed like in 80-90's there was a large growing neo nazi movement. Where these people went to practicing killing was frightening. How he came to be a neo nazi and how he had tea with grandma's who missed the nazi days was an eye opener.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Hitler is dead but fascism thrives beyond his wildest dreams. We are told they were exterminated in the last great war, haha not forking likely.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Hitler is dead but fascism thrives beyond his wildest dreams. We are told they were exterminated in the last great war, haha not forking likely.

Well, Mussolini was doing it long before Hitler. Its not surprising that its still around in one form or another. They could have killed every single nazi/fascist after the war and it wouldn't have changed that. You can kill a person but not an idea - whether it be a good or bad one.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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The merit of that idea was always a matter of perspective so when it was encouraged and bankrolled and finally defeated they assured us, they were safe to continue it's refinement under the cover of its supposed elimination.
Hitlers handlers acctually won the second world war and they intend to win this fresh chapter. The numbers of victims don't concern them in the least. Their uncontested continuation is all that matters to them.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

The merit of that idea was always a matter of perspective so when it was encouraged and bankrolled and finally defeated they assured us, they were safe to continue it's refinement under the cover of its supposed elimination.
Hitlers handlers acctually won the second world war and they intend to win this fresh chapter. The numbers of victims don't concern them in the least. Their uncontested continuation is all that matters to them.

darkbeaver is that avatar battery run or does it pulse on wind power?
 
gopher
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Quote:

WLDB,


If normal people read it in the right context its harmless. I read it in grade 10, it was rather dull. It had some interesting parts though. It surprises me that he made a lot of his plans public nearly a decade before coming to power and still no one really took him seriously til it was too late.



The most important thing to bear in mind is that Hitler did not act alone. He was part of a large group of fanatics whose crazed ideas were circulating throughout Germany since at least the 1870s. For half a century they were spreading these ideas and convincing people that it was a form of inevitable 'manifest destiny' that was going to happen regardless of anyone's wishes. Therefore, the key in preventing what took place was not in stopping Hitler but in stopping his many supporters and financiers. Had his many henchmen been stopped, and the financing they got taken away, all the conflicts could have been avoided.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

The most important thing to bear in mind is that Hitler did not act alone.

He didn't? Wow. I always thought it was just him, solo.

Hunh. Learn something new every day.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

darkbeaver is that avatar battery run or does it pulse on wind power?

HAHAHAHAH A hot foul wind of course. You bean here long enough to figure that out eh.HAHAHAH

Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

The most important thing to bear in mind is that Hitler did not act alone. He was part of a large group of fanatics whose crazed ideas were circulating throughout Germany since at least the 1870s. For half a century they were spreading these ideas and convincing people that it was a form of inevitable 'manifest destiny' that was going to happen regardless of anyone's wishes. Therefore, the key in preventing what took place was not in stopping Hitler but in stopping his many supporters and financiers. Had his many henchmen been stopped, and the financing they got taken away, all the conflicts could have been avoided.

That is my understanding as well, a large group of fanatic financial and political conspirators. What else?
Stripping the cream of every human generation, of dignity wealth and life is the feed they need. Don't worry history will be impervious to their protestations and they will be relegated to the dark of caves again. The sine wave of flesh and blood. If all that murder and destruction were avoided we would not have the civilization we have today, it might have been better it could have been worse, I think it's not quite decided yet.
 

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