Now the Germans are stirring


Locutus
#1
At last some might say.


Muslim street prayers is now a fairly well used and documented provocation across Europe. The idea is to do a highly aggressive and threatening act in public yet make it look like an act of piety, so that any response to it other than total submission to the subversion of public space to Islamic purpose, appears to be an aggressive and anti-freedom act, as well as a breach of their rights to freedom of religion and making the Muslims be both the aggressor and victim at the same time.

It is quite a treat to see Germans not falling for this the way the British and French have been so far. Feb 8 2014


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Germans fight back to classic provocation tactic. At last. | Vlad Tepes
 
Sal
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#2
watching such antics is disturbing, on the other hand all of those faces are now captured if needed in the future
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

watching such antics is disturbing, on the other hand all of those faces are now captured if needed in the future

What "antics" are you referring to?

I was at a community supper a month ago and some Christian got up and asked everybody to stand and say grace. He then proceeded to interrupt my dinner with his religious chants. Fortunately I know who he is for future reference
 
Blackleaf
+1
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

What "antics" are you referring to?

I was at a community supper a month ago and some Christian got up and asked everybody to stand and say grace. He then proceeded to interrupt my dinner with his religious chants. Fortunately I know who he is for future reference



Christian dinner table prayers in a Christian country is not quite on the same scale as thousands of Muslims in a Christian country bringing streets to a standstill in a deliberately provocative act.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Christian dinner table prayers in a Christian country is not quite on the same scale as thousands of Muslims in a Christian country bringing streets to a standstill in a deliberately provocative act.

It's people pushing their religions in public....and I would hardly call Canada a Christian country. Church attendance has been dropping for decades. Many people identify themselves as Christians but that doesn't really make them Christian

As for the video, I did not see thousands of Muslims nor did I see anything that would intimidate me...but I understand you're Brittish and that may make a difference.
 
Blackleaf
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It's people pushing their religions in public....


I've got no problem with that. If atheists are allowed to shove their beliefs down people's throats then Christians should also be allowed to do so in a Christian country. Christians should fight back against the evil rising tide of atheism and Islamofascism.


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and I would hardly call Canada a Christian country.

Canada's a Christian country. Though it may not be for much longer the way your Muslims are breeding. In the Western world, only the Republic of Ireland has got a faster growing Muslim population than Canada. If I were you I'd prepare myself for such provocative acts from Muslims on Canadian streets, just to let you know who's now in charge of Canada.

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As for the video, I did not see thousands of Muslims nor did I see anything that would intimidate me...but I understand you're Brittish and that may make a difference.

I saw many, many Muslims bringing a street in a Christian country to a standstill for no good other than to be deliberately provocative and troublemaking and letting the Germans be aware that they will do their best to ensure that Islam and Sharia will soon rule Germany.


The Germans should fight back against this and ensure their country remains Christian.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It's people pushing their religions in public....and I would hardly call Canada a Christian country. Church attendance has been dropping for decades. Many people identify themselves as Christians but that doesn't really make them Christian

As for the video, I did not see thousands of Muslims nor did I see anything that would intimidate me...but I understand you're Brittish and that may make a difference.

Well if that is the case you are obviously not living anywhere I know in Canada Mr. cannuck .Even the cease pool that is downtown Toronto is dominated by Christian Churches , along with every city town and burg in the country. Canada is not a Christian country my eye .
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

What "antics" are you referring to?

if it had been Christians in the street would you label it as antics? (see below for a fuller explanation) Is there a problem with the one but not the other or are they equally insidious?

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I was at a community supper a month ago and some Christian got up and asked everybody to stand and say grace. He then proceeded to interrupt my dinner with his religious chants. Fortunately I know who he is for future reference

I do not have a problem with grace before meals. Although I am not Christian, or Muslim or Hindi, etc. I like the intent of grace before meals said at any meal in anyway by anybody. In my household we almost always say grace before meals and I use the Catholic version because I know the words so it is the handiest. God does not need me to do so, but I believe concentrating on the fact that there is food upon my table is something I am grateful for and it is a reminder of such.

As for the antics I distinguish between what was clearly meant to be a disruption and what is clearly meant to be a song of gratitude. Neither do I have a problem with protesting however, there is a time and place for both. I would also be interested in a translation of what buddy was saying that got everyone so stirred up.

Intent is important in my world.
 
Cannuck
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#9
Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Canada is not a Christian country my eye .

I don't really care about your eye. Google church attendance and you will find that weekly attendance has steadily been dropping and is now somewhere south of 20%. Those that claim to be Christian have been steadily dropping as well and now sits at around two thirds. That means half of Canadians call themselves Christian but don't go to church. Seems to me. Personally I see it as a comfort zone for some people especially when you consider that most Canadians disagree with many of the Christian churches beliefs
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

especially when you consider that most Canadians disagree with many of the Christian churches beliefs



Just wait till the Muslims take over. Their beliefs will give you something to complain about.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Christian dinner table prayers in a Christian country is not quite on the same scale as thousands of Muslims in a Christian country bringing streets to a standstill in a deliberately provocative act.

Unlike your rather backwards country Canada is a multicultural country not a fundie one. So one religion can not be above all others.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Just wait till the Muslims take over. Their beliefs will give you something to complain about.

We won't let them "take over". What do you think we are, Brittish?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

if it had been Christians in the street would you label it as antics? (see below for a fuller explanation) Is there a problem with the one but not the other or are they equally insidious?

I do not have a problem with grace before meals. Although I am not Christian, or Muslim or Hindi, etc. I like the intent of grace before meals said at any meal in anyway by anybody. In my household we almost always say grace before meals and I use the Catholic version because I know the words so it is the handiest. God does not need me to do so, but I believe concentrating on the fact that there is food upon my table is something I am grateful for and it is a reminder of such.

As for the antics I distinguish between what was clearly meant to be a disruption and what is clearly meant to be a song of gratitude. Neither do I have a problem with protesting however, there is a time and place for both. I would also be interested in a translation of what buddy was saying that got everyone so stirred up.

Intent is important in my world.

Sal- Well said. I noted no one disagreed with it.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Unlike your rather backwards country Canada is a multicultural country not a fundie one.


And it's Christian.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Sal- Well said. I noted no odne isagreed with it.

maybe that's not good....
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

And it's Christian.

No all religions are equal here.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

maybe that's not good....

Nope- Every point was valid- Intent is the key. Intent to disrupt - attempt to incite a violent response - to cause strife between communities- that is how I look at this.
 
bill barilko
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So what happened in the video-my German is rudimentary at best and it looked like the Muzzies finished [s]bawling[/s] praying then everyone stood around.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

So what happened in the video-my German is rudimentary at best and it looked like the Muzzies finished [s]bawling[/s] praying then everyone stood around.

Terrifying wasn't it?
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Terrifying wasn't it?

How so?
 
damngrumpy
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Christian Muslim whatever all can have their freedom to do as they like
If they block the streets Water Cannons for all that should mop things up
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Christian Muslim whatever all can have their freedom to do as they like
If they block the streets Water Cannons for all that should mop things up

Non violent methods should be used. Water cannons are not non violent and would only incite & inflame the issue.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Non violent methods should be used. Water cannons are not non violent and would only incite & inflame the issue.

That prayer event was held in that public sphere for a reason
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

That prayer event was held in that public sphere for a reason

I have checked around and cannot find that this is a common event - France has outlawed street prayers but have provided facilities for Muslim Prayers.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It's people pushing their religions in public....and I would hardly call Canada a Christian country. Church attendance has been dropping for decades. Many people identify themselves as Christians but that doesn't really make them Christian

As for the video, I did not see thousands of Muslims nor did I see anything that would intimidate me...but I understand you're Brittish and that may make a difference.

How can we say it's not a Christian country when certain Christian groups have a guaranteed right to separate schools?

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Unlike your rather backwards country Canada is a multicultural country not a fundie one. So one religion can not be above all others.

Well, except for two in the Constitution.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

How can we say it's not a Christian country when certain Christian groups have a guaranteed right to separate schools?



Well, except for two in the Constitution.

Off topic. Not adding to the OP.
Let it go. Eventually it will change in every province. Just takes time.
Cannuck- Back to your little balls. Off now and play.
Last edited by Goober; Feb 16th, 2014 at 05:53 PM..
 
petros
+1
#27
I hope they still have the Easter Egg hunt in the public park this year and yet I'd hate to offend anyone by having it.


What should we do?


We need Batman as a Pope.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

How can we say it's not a Christian country when certain Christian groups have a guaranteed right to separate schools.

Because it was agreed to in the past. Doesn't make it so today. In fact we have separate schools of all types of religions now.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Because it was agreed to in the past. Doesn't make it so today. In fact we have separate schools of all types of religions now.

Muzzies are going through the same thing Orthodox Christians went through 100 years ago. In 1920 an act of Parliament prevented Ukrainian Orthodox from setting up their own school system.


History does indeed tend to repeat itself.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

At last some might say.


Muslim street prayers is now a fairly well used and documented provocation across Europe. The idea is to do a highly aggressive and threatening act in public yet make it look like an act of piety, so that any response to it other than total submission to the subversion of public space to Islamic purpose, appears to be an aggressive and anti-freedom act, as well as a breach of their rights to freedom of religion and making the Muslims be both the aggressor and victim at the same time.

It is quite a treat to see Germans not falling for this the way the British and French have been so far. Feb 8 2014


PI-Kln Doku Salafisten Demo Mnchengladbach 08022014 Teil 3 Gebet - YouTube




more


Germans fight back to classic provocation tactic. At last. | Vlad Tepes

Bearing in mind many Muslims probably object to such tactics on the part of fellow 'Muslims' too.
 

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