Social Programs Citied for UK's largest drop in Teen Pregnancies

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The drop in teenage pregnancies is the success story of our time




Here are the facts: since 1998, the proportion of pregnancies in under-18s has fallen by a remarkable 34%, to 30.9 per thousand. Until then the number had been rising since the late 1960s. But here's what people wrongly think: Ipsos Mori says people think 25 times more under-16s get pregnant than really do. Oddly, the 15- to 24-year-olds themselves grossly overestimate the rate. They think 40% of their own generation of under-18s get pregnant – which would mean 12 in a classroom of 30. Most people (80%) think teen pregnancy is still rising.


The Conservatives ran a grossly misleading campaign at the last election, following Iain Duncan Smith's fear-inducing Breakdown Britain reports. Moral panic about everything was their theme, figures often wildly wrong. An election document called Labour's Two Nations claimed that a staggering 54% of 15- to 17-year-olds in the most deprived areas were getting pregnant. The real figure was 5.4%. When caught out, they said it was an errant decimal point – but that figure was repeated three times without anyone at Tory head office stopping to wonder whether it could possibly be right. That suggested deep ignorance of life in the large parts of Britain they don't represent, distant "bad lands" of their worst imaginings.


At that time Chris Grayling was called out by the UK Statistics Authority for his misleading use of figures to try to claim violent crime was rising, when it had been falling for years – and still is. But ignorance is the right's friend, bogus figures bolstering wrong public estimates of benefit fraud (24%; real figure 0.7%) or numbers of black and Asian people, (a third, real number 11%). When people talk of "single mothers" they imagine girls, like the "young ladies" Peter Lilley mocked in the horrible "little list" he once sang to the Conservative party conference, about teenagers getting pregnant to get a council flat. In real life, the average age of single mothers is 38.


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Walter

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Easiest way to get and stay poor is to have an out-of-wedlock child.
 

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One thing that will stop teenage pregnancies is to stop allowing teen girls to jump to the front of the housing list and benefits list when they become pregnant. That's what the Dutch did and, not suprisingly, teenage pregnancies plummeted. Because that's one of the reasons why so many young girls get up the duff. Just to get a council house and benefits.
 

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They get pregnant to live in sh*tty social housing

Yep. And to get the child benefit and housing benefit and council tax benefit. That's the only reason why so many 14 year old girls drop a chavvie. Although the Left, of course, are too naive to notice that.
 

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Why would they take a drop in lifestyle to go into the ghettos?

What makes you think they take a drop in lifestyle? Again, it's that Lefty naivety showing.

Teen girls in Britain get to jump right to the front of the housing and benefits queue as soon as they become pregnant. Take those stupid benefits away and the teenage pregnancy rate will suddenly plummet. I can guarantee it. It's happened in other European countries, such as Holland. There are too many young girls nowadays who just want to get pregnant just so that can live the easy life in their own council house with their rent and council tax paid for by the taxpayer.
 

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Easiest way to get and stay poor is to have an out-of-wedlock child.

Correct. I agree. The best upbringing for a child is to have two married heterosexual parents, with the mother staying at home looking after the child and the father working.
 

Blackleaf

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What makes you think ghettos are a step up?

People are desperate for council houses and council flats. That's why the waiting lists to have them are so long, and you could wait three years to finally get to the front of the queue for one.

But not if you are a 14 year old girl who suddenly gets up the duff. For some reason she gets to jump right to the front of the queue for a council house or flat without having to wait. That's why so many of them get pregnant.
 

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[petros;1840755]Why does the UK have a long list for housing? [/QUOTE]

Because people don't want to live on streets. Houses are much better.