Merkel calls Obama about 'US spying on her phone'

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Honor in the spy world does not exist and never has. Its not just America either
we as humans and members of nations have been spying on each other since
modern society developed. The difference is it is harder to get away with now
in the modern age.
 
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I'm sorry to inform you, NSA is spying mostly on foreigners. To circonvent any local laws, they then share information to other country's that spy on American citizens. Canada spy's on Americans and Americans spy on Canadians. Then share information. No laws where broken that way. Goverments and corporation know you better then you know yourself. They even know how hard you push when you go for a s****. Welcom to the future.
 
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Europe is fuming at the Obama Administration over this. Oh the libby Dems so wanted to be loved by the world and now they are hated by the world more than ever.

But hey Europe... this is the guy you wanted! lol.

Enjoy!

 
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Merkel, Hollande to discuss European communication network avoiding U.S.






German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday she would talk to French President Francois Hollande about building up a European communication network to avoid emails and other data passing through the United States.


Merkel, who visits France on Wednesday, has been pushing for greater data protection in Europe following reports last year about mass surveillance in Germany and elsewhere by the U.S. National Security Agency. Even Merkel's cell phone was reportedly monitored by American spies.


Merkel said in her weekly podcast that she disapproved of companies such as Google and Facebook basing their operations in countries with low levels of data protection while being active in countries such as Germany with high data protection.


"We'll talk with France about how we can maintain a high level of data protection," Merkel said.


"Above all, we'll talk about European providers that offer security for our citizens, so that one shouldn't have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic. Rather, one could build up a communication network inside Europe."


Hollande's office confirmed that the governments had been discussing the matter and said Paris agreed with Berlin's proposals.
"Now that the German government is formed, it is important that we take up the initiative together," an official said.


Government snooping is a particularly sensitive subject in Germany due to the heavy surveillance of citizens practised in communist East Germany and under Hitler, and there was widespread outrage at the revelations of NSA surveillance by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden
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"We've got to do more for data protection in Europe, there's no doubt about it," Merkel said on Saturday.


Germany has been pushing, so far in vain, for a 'no-spy' agreement with Washington.


Merkel she plans to discuss closer cooperation on climate protection with Hollande ahead of a global climate conference in France next year, as well as security policies, in particular with respect to Africa.


Merkel, Hollande to discuss European communication network avoiding U.S. | Reuters
 
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Obama asks Germany “to give us the benefit of the doubt”








President Barack Obama asked Germans to give the United States the “benefit of the doubt” when it comes to snooping by the National Security Agency.



In a Monday joint press conference with Chancellor Angela Merkel held at the White House on Monday, Obama said he recognizes “the sensitivities around this issue.”


In October 2013, German media reported that Merkel had “strong suspicions” that her personal cellphone was being monitored by American authorities.


White House spokesman Jay Carney unequivocally told reporters at the time that such surveillance was not continuing, but he did not directly deny the allegations of past conduct. The next year, Germany decided not to renew its government contract with Verizon, citing concerns over spying by the National Security Agency.


Last week, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence made minor changes to its spying protocols, which many legal experts decried as mere window dressing.


On Monday, Obama added:






What I would ask would be that the German people recognize that the United States has always been on the forefront of trying to promote civil liberties, that we have traditions of due process that we respect, that we have been a consistent partner of yours in the course of the last 70 years, and certainly the last 25 years, in reinforcing the values that we share. And so occasionally I would like the German people to give us the benefit of the doubt, given our history, as opposed to assuming the worst—assuming that we have been consistently your strong partners and that we share a common set of values.

And if we have that fundamental, underlying trust, there are going to be times where there are disagreements, and both sides may make mistakes, and there are going to be irritants like there are between friends, but the underlying foundation for the relationship remains sound.






For her part, Chancellor Merkel largely sidestepped the issue.



“I think there are still different assessments on individual issues there, but if we look at the sheer dimension of the terrorist threat, we are more than aware of the fact that we need to work together very closely,” she said, according to a White House transcript.




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Obama asks Germany “to give us the benefit of the doubt� on NSA spying | Ars Technica
 
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Machjo said:
BBC News - Merkel calls Obama about 'US spying on her phone'

What's done is done, but I sure hope there are laws in place in Canada and that there is appropriate oversight to ensure no Canadian government agency participate in espionage, or at least espionage of this kind against allies at the very least.

Let's have a certain code of honour here. How low can a government stoop. Honestly.
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Nations spy on each other and always will do. It's always happened yet, for some reason, the Left have started making a kerfuffle about it in recent years as though they've only just discovered that it's been happening.

The only countries who should not be spying on each other are Britain, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, who make up "Five Eyes." These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence. It is generally agreed upon that these countries do not often spy on each other (although they do to a limited extent) and that they are supposed to trust each other to not spy on each other. But, apart from amongst Five Eyes, countries across the world are always spying on each other and have done for centuries. It's just that the Left have just realised this in recent years and are now complaining about it, as though it's a new thing.

As for Merkel complaining the Yanks are spying on her, I'd like to see the list of countries that Germany is currently spying on.
 
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Now she phones to get updates. Those geeks in Silicon Valley are the best.
 
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You have to keep an eye on the Hun, though. They'll do it again given half a chance.
 
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Lefties still don't understand that nations spying on nations is completely normal and has been going on for centuries. What the bloody hell do you think MI6 do?

How many countries does Germany spy on, I wonder.

As for America, it is part of an organisation called Five Eyes, which also includes Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. These five English-speaking, Anglo-Saxon countries all spy on most other countries in the world but are not supposed to spy on each other.
 
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