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Global attitudes reflect shifting U.S.-China power balance, survey concludes

By William Wan

BEIJING — People around the globe believe that China will inevitably replace the United States as the world’s leading superpower, but that doesn’t mean they like the prospect, according to a new study on global attitudes.

The survey that the Pew Research Center conducted in 39 countries confirms much of the conventional wisdom in Washington about the shifting balance of power between the United States and China.

Mutual tensions are rising, with Americans’ favorable opinions of China dropping from 51 percent two years ago to 37 percent now and a similar drop among Chinese — from 58 percent to 40 percent — with respect to the United States.

China’s economic might is perceived as rising and the United States’ as declining, and although many countries still see the United States as the top economic power, many believe that it is only a matter of time before China supplants it.

Despite the shifting attitudes, however, the United States generally enjoys a better image abroad. On the question of which country they view as a partner, more nations had a majority naming the United States rather than China.

The survey on global attitudes was the largest that Pew has conducted since 2007.

China was widely admired by respondents — especially in Africa and Latin America — for its scientific and technological advances, according to the survey, but Chinese ideas and popular culture were less well-received. The positive views of China in Latin America and sub-Saharan Africa reflect heavy Chinese investment in those regions in recent decades.

Meanwhile, several of China’s nearest neighbors, including the Philippines, South Korea and Japan, view their U.S. ties as far more important than their relationship with China — a feeling fostered by their increasingly hostile territorial disputes with China.
Outright anti-China sentiment was mostly limited to respondents in Germany, Italy, Israel and Japan.

Hostile attitudes were especially notable in Japan, where they have reached a new watermark after heated nationalist rhetoric in recent years in China and Japan. Only 5 percent of respondents in Japan expressed a positive view of China, and 93 percent had a negative view.

Both U.S. and Chinese military capabilities worry other countries. The United States’ drone program, however, proved especially unpopular in the poll, with a majority of respondents in 31 of the 39 countries surveyed disapproving of U.S. airstrikes on extremists. According to the report, attacks by unmanned U.S. aircraft drew majority support in only three countries: Israel, Kenya and the United States.

Meanwhile, President Obama remains popular in many parts of the world, especially Europe, Africa and some countries in Asia, but his overall ratings have slipped since 2009, along with confidence in him and approval of his policies, the survey found. He enjoys the least confidence among people in the Middle East, with about 30 percent or fewer in most countries in the region saying that “they trust Obama to do the right thing in global affairs.”

With regard to personal freedoms and human rights, however, the United States did much better overall than China — although the survey was conducted from March to May, before recent disclosures about the scope of U.S. government surveillance, including the collection of far-reaching data on phone calls and e-mails.

Notably, the only country surveyed where positive views of the U.S. government’s record on personal freedoms had declined was the United States.

Global attitudes reflect shifting U.S.-China power balance, survey concludes - The Washington Post

Can't happen soon enough to please me.
 

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I don't know. What about them?

Maybe the fact that Europe isn't a country. . .

The EU or the European Union is an economic and political union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. It's a major market that has a lot of buying power..

I think Canada and the USA should form an EU type of relationship.. economically I think it would help both countries and if they create a unified immigration policy and one single border.. I think it would bolster security & trade.
 

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The EU or the European Union is an economic and political union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. It's a major market that has a lot of buying power..

I think Canada and the USA should form an EU type of relationship.. economically I think it would help both countries and if they create a unified immigration policy and one single border.. I think it would bolster security & trade.
I'd rather just take over the syrup-slurping hockey-heads. I'm sure they can be re-trained to love capitalism and Jesus and to scrub toilets.
 

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I'd rather just take over the syrup-slurping hockey-heads. I'm sure they can be re-trained to love capitalism and Jesus and to scrub toilets.

Efforts so far have failed abysmally. They continue on with their socialist ways and funny accents.

When China starts to flex its muslces, this whole Islaimst business will turn into a sideshow and we'll be wistfully recalling the days when all we had to worry about was a terrorist attack taking out a few dozen people.
 

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Efforts so far have failed abysmally. They continue on with their socialist ways and funny accents.
I know, right? And constantly bragging about the War of 1812. Like that means Canada today could resist us if we felt like taking over.

When China starts to flex its muslces, this whole Islaimst business will turn into a sideshow and we'll be wistfully recalling the days when all we had to worry about was a terrorist attack taking out a few dozen people.
Seriously, though. I'm not sure it would be a big problem. China generally isn't big on exporting its ideology. I calculate when China's the big dog, it'll mostly let folk do as they please long as it don't interfere with Chinacorp's profit numbers.
 

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I know, right? And constantly bragging about the War of 1812. Like that means Canada today could resist us if we felt like taking over.

On paper that would certainly be the case. Of course, on paper, that was the case in 1812 as well. One thing about wars is that they are notoriously unpredictable.


Seriously, though. I'm not sure it would be a big problem. China generally isn't big on exporting its ideology. I calculate when China's the big dog, it'll mostly let folk do as they please long as it don't interfere with Chinacorp's profit numbers.

Yeah, as long as we trade, things will be good. There's the old adage "Where goods do not cross borders, armies will." There will likely be some commotion in the China Seas though. North Korea is another wrench in the works. I remember Lou Dobbs on CNN. He always used the same stock footage of billions of Chinese troops marching as far as the eye could see that would flash just for a moment every time he said "Communist China" (always "Communist China," never "China"). Interesting bit of propaganda. Probably too obvious to be effective, but you never know.
 

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I know, right? And constantly bragging about the War of 1812. Like that means Canada today could resist us if we felt like taking over.


Seriously, though. I'm not sure it would be a big problem. China generally isn't big on exporting its ideology. I calculate when China's the big dog, it'll mostly let folk do as they please long as it don't interfere with Chinacorp's profit numbers.
I posted this a few days ago.

Why are the U.S. and China preparing for war with one another? - The Globe and Mail
 

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The EU or the European Union is an economic and political union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. It's a major market that has a lot of buying power..

I think Canada and the USA should form an EU type of relationship.. economically I think it would help both countries and if they create a unified immigration policy and one single border.. I think it would bolster security & trade.

Not going to happen. No way. No how. For sure not now.
 

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I know, right? And constantly bragging about the War of 1812.

Right.........like only Americans have the bragging rights on war victories. It is one little battle. It was the British who won the war. People get a chance to dress up and pay battle games. Lots of folks really enjoy themselves.

Like that means Canada today could resist us if we felt like taking over.
Not alone we couldn't...................but we have a lot of friends. :smile:
 

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Right.........like only Americans have the bragging rights on war victories. It is one little battle. It was the British who won the war. People get a chance to dress up and pay battle games. Lots of folks really enjoy themselves.

Not alone we couldn't...................but we have a lot of friends. :smile:

Oh yeah? OH YEAH?!?!?! Bring it on, baby! We'll put a hitch in your git-along, sho nuff!

Really. Do some research.
We spent almost 50 years preparing for war with the Soviet Union. I know, I was part of the process. Did we go to war with them?
 

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Oh yeah? OH YEAH?!?!?! Bring it on, baby! We'll put a hitch in your git-along, sho nuff!


We spent almost 50 years preparing for war with the Soviet Union. I know, I was part of the process. Did we go to war with them?

Thankfully no.
But China is preparing. To think otherwise is daft. Not saying you are daft.
And with what we hear from Military officers to the new Dear leader. Confrontation is highly possible in the next decade or so.
 

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Thankfully no.
But China is preparing. To think otherwise is daft. Not saying you are daft.
And with what we hear from Military officers to the new Dear leader. Confrontation is highly possible in the next decade or so.
I certainly hope not. I would hate to end up in another series of pissing contests like we did with the Soviets.

But we won't go to war with China directly for the same reason we didn't with the USSR: nukes.
 

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No one would profit from a direct war....it's not even a option...
It's all covert & proxy warfare. Economic wars. Spying.

Stealing tek.
Controlling other nations, resources.
 

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I certainly hope not. I would hate to end up in another series of pissing contests like we did with the Soviets.

But we won't go to war with China directly for the same reason we didn't with the USSR: nukes.
And they are building up their capability. They are building in all capabilities.

Look at how they tried to settle the disputes over the Spratly Islands.