Club of Rome sees 2 degrees Celsius rise in 40 years.

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And much grief to accompany it!

(Reuters) - Rising carbon dioxide emissions will cause a global average temperature rise of 2 degrees Celsius by 2052 and a 2.8 degree rise by 2080, as governments and markets are unlikely to do enough against climate change, the Club of Rome think tank said.
Failing to tackle climate change in the first half of this century will put the world on a dangerous track to warming in the second half, even though global population should peak in 2042 at 8.1 billion and economic growth will be much slower than expected in mature economies, the Switzerland-based body said in a report on Tuesday.
"It is unlikely that governments will pass necessary regulation to force the markets to allocate more money into climate-friendly solutions, and (we) must not assume that markets will work for the benefit of humankind," said Jorgen Randers, author of the report and professor of climate strategy at the Norwegian School of Management.
"We are emitting twice as much greenhouse gases every year as are absorbed by the world's forests and oceans. This overshoot will worsen and will peak in 2030."
The Club of Rome, whose members include political and business figures and scientists, analyses problems such as limits to economic growth, resource pressure and employment.
Two climate scientists said on Tuesday the report's findings seemed "in the right ballpark" and the organization was respected in particular since a report in the 1970s on limits to growth triggered considerable public attention.
Research last month by the University of Oxford and Princeton University said global warming was likely to be between 1.4 and 3 degrees by 2050, but that 3 degrees was at the upper end of what was likely.


Club of Rome sees 2 degree Celsius rise in 40 years | Reuters
 

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Research last month by the University of Oxford and Princeton University said global warming was likely to be between 1.4 and 3 degrees by 2050, but that 3 degrees was at the upper end of what was likely.
Who do we hold responsible in 2050 when the temperature is lower? I'll be a nonagenarian by then or dead.
 

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It didn't say CO2. It said greenhouse gases.
It didn't?

Do you spell greenhouse gases c a r b o n d i o x i d e?

(Reuters) - Rising carbon dioxide emissions will cause a global average temperature rise of 2 degrees Celsius by 2052 and a 2.8 degree rise by 2080, as governments and markets are unlikely to do enough against climate change, the Club of Rome think tank said.
 

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What did the "Club" say about climate change in the 1960s?

This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.

—Lowell Ponte in “The Cooling”, 1976
The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer.

—Paul Ehrlich, in The Population Bomb (196

I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.

—Paul Ehrlich in (1969)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.

—Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity…in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion.

—Paul Ehrlich in (1976)

This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century.

—Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976
 
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This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.

—Lowell Ponte in “The Cooling”, 1976
The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer.

—Paul Ehrlich, in The Population Bomb (196

I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.

—Paul Ehrlich in (1969)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.

—Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity…in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion.

—Paul Ehrlich in (1976)

This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century.

—Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976
That is not the Club of Rome. Neither are they scientists with any knowledge of climate. As we have discussed elswhere, there was never a cooling and never scientific support for the likelihood.
 

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That is not the Club of Rome. Neither are they scientists with any knowledge of climate. As we have discussed elswhere, there was never a cooling and never scientific support for the likelihood.
But it's still the same type of fearmongering.
You guys get a lil extreme at times,picking dates the worlds going to freeze over that are in our lifetime.
Never cry wolf.
 

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But it's still the same type of fearmongering.
You guys get a lil extreme at times,picking dates the worlds going to freeze over that are in our lifetime.
Never cry wolf.
How is that any different than your willful ignorance and ignoring of facts related to the negative impact of fracking?

Your double standards are funny.
 

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How is it the "same type of fearmongering?" Your examples are speculation from unresearched opinion. What the Club of Rome has recently said is the consensus of climate science.
 

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How is it the "same type of fearmongering?" Your examples are speculation from unresearched opinion. What the Club of Rome has recently said is the consensus of climate science.
How can it be a consensus when there are so many who disagree with it?
 

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How can it be a consensus when there are so many who disagree with it?

Well, there are tens of thousands of scientists researching in the broad range of disciplines that cover climatology and it's causes. A couple of per cent is still many. A scientific consensus means general acceptance. By your standards I guess we could say there is no such thing as a consensus, like say immunization to protect against disease.

Want to see if there is general acceptance? Try looking at the scientific program of the big conferences. Meteorology, atmospheric scientists, ocean chemists, cryosphere researchers, etc. Take a look at what current researchers are actually finding.

Start with the big ones, like the meetings of the European Geophysical Union, and the American Geophysical Union. Those conferences get well over ten thousand scientists attending.

Or take a look at the findings of the national academies. There is clear consensus. To say otherwise is to be ignorant, or willfully blind.