#1Oct 26th, 2010
Efficient charities
#2
Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010
Salvation Army seems like it would be a safe bet to me as they are providing services which are easily observed on a local level, you can see a tangible contribution to society.
What bothers me of late, is the Hospital for Sick Children and Amnesty International. They hire students to harass pedestrians on the streets of Toronto, wanting you to commit to monthly donations via electronic transfer... ie, like a bill. I have enough bills as it is so that's not an option for me but they won't even accept cash contributions... seems pretty ridiculous and greedy to me.
What bothers me of late, is the Hospital for Sick Children and Amnesty International. They hire students to harass pedestrians on the streets of Toronto, wanting you to commit to monthly donations via electronic transfer... ie, like a bill. I have enough bills as it is so that's not an option for me but they won't even accept cash contributions... seems pretty ridiculous and greedy to me.
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
Yep, I'd cross those off the list.Salvation Army seems like it would be a safe bet to me as they are providing services which are easily observed on a local level, you can see a tangible contribution to society.
What bothers me of late, is the Hospital for Sick Children and Amnesty International. They hire students to harass pedestrians on the streets of Toronto, wanting you to commit to monthly donations via electronic transfer... ie, like a bill. I have enough bills as it is so that's not an option for me but they won't even accept cash contributions... seems pretty ridiculous and greedy to me.
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Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
I would also include food banks as well.It's been brought to my attention that some of the better known charities have huge overhead expenses, particularly the stipend to the C.E.O.s I am looking for confirmation of this. What is the most efficient charity. I'm suggesting the Salvation Army passes on the greatest percentage of donations directly to charity. Can anyone confirm this?
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#5 Top Rated PostRe: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010
I am exasperated with charities (say the Home for Wayward Sheep) that send me Xmas cards, tote bags, pens, and bloody address labels by the thousands! I stuff those conscience-tormenting "gifts" in their return envelopes and send them back!
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Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Spade
Now you got me upset, Spade, just today I sent the WAr Amps (as I do once a year) $20 for scads of address labels- those pictures of little tykes with no arms and legs just get to me.I am exasperated with charities (say the Home for Wayward Sheep) that send me Xmas cards, tote bags, pens, and bloody address labels by the thousands! I stuff those conscience-tormenting "gifts" in their return envelopes and send them back!
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
You might be onto something, especially if you just give them groceries. I would also include food banks as well.
Just not delicacies that C.E.O.s might take home to eat.
Last edited by JLM; Oct 26th, 2010 at 05:27 PM..Reason: added thought
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010
Is it the pictures or the labels. Would you have contributed without being given the labels?
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Spade
Don't know Spade, it's been a habit for about 15 years, so when they ask I give. I think they are as legitimately good as anyone.Is it the pictures or the labels. Would you have contributed without being given the labels?
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010
In my opinion ...Salvation Army does the greatest good..You can always donate directly to your local dropin centers/shelters....Churchs .Opportunity../Thrift /consignment shops etc..Food bank ...These places do the most good for those in need...
However ...
ALL Charities do more good than nothing ...There are some top notch Philanthropist's out there who do their fair share as well ....
If you don't like to give without receiving ...Remember most donations are deductible ..
However ...
ALL Charities do more good than nothing ...There are some top notch Philanthropist's out there who do their fair share as well ....
If you don't like to give without receiving ...Remember most donations are deductible ..
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Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
I had an Uncle - married to my mothers sister - he was much older - Served in WW1 - He told me that when the bombs were falling and the bullets were flying the Sally Ann were always in the trenches providing care and comfort.Others of various Religious Faiths - Chaplians - were not alwys as vigilant of the needs of the ordinary Soldier - They seemed to disappear quite frquently back behind the front lines - I always make sure that I never walk past a Sally Ann when they collect donations at Christmas - never pass without making a donation. To me it would be sinful - some may understand this and some may not.In my opinion ...Salvation Army does the greatest good..You can always donate directly to your local dropin centers/shelters....Churchs .Opportunity../Thrift /consignment shops etc..Food bank ...These places do the most good for those in need...
However ...
ALL Charities do more good than nothing ...There are some top notch Philanthropist's out there who do their fair share as well ....
If you don't like to give without receiving ...Remember most donations are deductible ..
Red Cross - Never will I give a penny to -
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Oct 26th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
I hear you. I had an Uncle - married to my mothers sister - he was much older - Served in WW1 - He told me that when the bombs were falling and the bullets were flying the Sally Ann were always in the trenches providing care and comfort.Others of various Religious Faiths - Chaplians - were not alwys as vigilant of the needs of the ordinary Soldier - They seemed to disappear quite frquently back behind the front lines - I always make sure that I never walk past a Sally Ann when they collect donations at Christmas - never pass without making a donation. To me it would be sinful - some may understand this and some may not.
Red Cross - Never will I give a penny to -
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 26th, 2010
My father told me the story about the Salvation Army in the trenches in WWI that he heard from vets
that were there too. He was surprised also once in Europe I don't remember where, but he said they
were coming back from the front, after being relieved for a bit, only to find folks from the Salvation Army
behind the lines serving coffee, and it wasn't that far from the front. I don't suspect he would lie about
something like that, he wasn't overly religious either. He said due to the service he saw in the field of
or during the Blitz in London, he always had a soft spot for what he called the Sally Ann. He said the
Sally Ann was something the boys called the Salvation Army over in Europe.
They have in my opinion earned their stripes, they didn't give a damn who you were or what you believed
if you needed them they were there. I donate once a year, to a few organizations and they are one of them.
that were there too. He was surprised also once in Europe I don't remember where, but he said they
were coming back from the front, after being relieved for a bit, only to find folks from the Salvation Army
behind the lines serving coffee, and it wasn't that far from the front. I don't suspect he would lie about
something like that, he wasn't overly religious either. He said due to the service he saw in the field of
or during the Blitz in London, he always had a soft spot for what he called the Sally Ann. He said the
Sally Ann was something the boys called the Salvation Army over in Europe.
They have in my opinion earned their stripes, they didn't give a damn who you were or what you believed
if you needed them they were there. I donate once a year, to a few organizations and they are one of them.
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#14Re: Efficient charities
Oct 27th, 2010
Here are two links that might help. One is a link to Canada Helps which lists 83,000 charities in Canada. Just select those you like and make your donation. The other is a list from Moneysense. It lists the most efficient charities using a number of parameters and groups them into various categories. You have to search through the list a little, but it gives you a good idea of how efficiently money is raised and spent.
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#15
Re: Efficient charities
Oct 28th, 2010
-- - Magician in a box for charity
-- - It is always good to hear about those who give without always expecting to receive...Especially when they have so much to offer... Sir Branson is 1 of my favorite philanthropists . ( next only to the Great Gates Family..Sorry Sir
-- - It is always good to hear about those who give without always expecting to receive...Especially when they have so much to offer... Sir Branson is 1 of my favorite philanthropists . ( next only to the Great Gates Family..Sorry Sir
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 28th, 2010
There was a list in one of the local rags recently that had CEO salaries and perks like houses as well how much or little went where it was supposed to. Of course now I can't find it.
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Oct 28th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave
There was a list in one of the local rags recently that had CEO salaries and perks like houses as well how much or little went where it was supposed to. Of course now I can't find it.
Rec'd this in an email the other day.
. Charities That Thank You For Your Donation
.>
> Keep these facts in mind when "donating". As you open your pockets
> for yet another natural disaster, keep the following facts in
> mind; we
> have listed them from the highest (worse paid offender) to the lowest
> (least paid offender).
>
> The worst offender was yet again for the 11th year in a row is,
> UNICEF -
> CEO, receives $1,200,000 per year, (plus use of a Royal Royce
> for his
> exclusive use where ever he goes, and an expense account that is
> rumoured to
> be well over $150,000.) Only pennies from the actual donations
> goes to the
> UNICEF
> cause (less than $0.14 per dollar of income).
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> The second worst offender this year is Marsha J. Evans,
> President and CEO of
> the American Red Cross...for her salary for the year ending in
> 2009 was
> $651,957 plus expenses. Enjoys 6 weeks - fully paid holidays
> including all
> related expenses during the holiday trip for her and her husband
> and kids.
> including 100% fully paid health & dental plan for her and her
> family, for
> life. This means out of every dollar they bring in, about $0.39
> goes to
> related charity causes.
>
> The third worst offender was again for the 7th time was, Brian
> Gallagher,President of the United Way receives a $375,000 base
> salary (U.S. funds),
> plus so many numerous expense benefits it's hard to keep track
> as to what it
> is all worth, including a fully paid lifetime membership for 2
> golf courses
> (1 in Canada, and 1 in the U.S.A.), 2 luxury vehicles, a yacht club
> membership,
> 3 major company gold credit cards for his personal
> expenses...and so on.
> This equates to about $0.51 per dollar of income goes to charity
> causes.
>
> Fourth worst offender who was also again in the fourth spot, for
> every year
> since this information has been made available from the start
> 1998 is
> amazingly yet again, World Vision President (Canada) receives
> $300,000 base
> salary, (plus supplied - a home valued in the $700,000 -
> $800,000 dollar
> value range, completely furnished,
> completely paid all housing expenses, including taxes, water/sewer,
> telephone/fax, HD/high speed cable, weekly maid service and pool/yard
> maintenance, fully paid private schooling for his children, upscale
> automobile and an $55,000 personal
> expense account for clothing/food, with a $125,000 business expense
> account). Get this, because it is a "religious based" charity,
> it pays,
> little to no taxes, can receive government assistance and does
> not have to
> declare were the money goes. Only about $0.52 of earned income
> per dollar is
> available for charity causes.
>
>
>
>
> Of the sixty some odd "charities" we looked at, the lowest paid
> (President/C.E.O/Commissioner) was heading up a charity group
> right here in
> Canada. We found, believe it or not, it was......
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>
>
> Ready for this...
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> I think you might be surprised...
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> It is, none other than...
.>
> The Salvation Army's Commissioner Todd Bassett receives a salary
> of only $13,000 per year (plus housing) for managing this $2
> Billion dollar organization. Which means about $0.93 per dollar
> earned, is
> readily available and goes back out to local charity causes...truly
> amazing...and well done "Sally Anne"
>
>
> No further comment is necessary..."Think Twice" before you give
> to your
> charity of choice as to which one really does the best for the
> most - or the
> least for the most, for that matter.
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Oct 28th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by javedjee77
What's up?hmmm.... so its up!
#20
Re: Efficient charities
Oct 28th, 2010
Yes JLM ..There is greed/corruption anywhere there is too much money ...
Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
In my opinion ...Salvation Army does the greatest good..You can always donate directly to your local dropin centers/shelters....Churchs .Opportunity../Thrift /consignment shops etc..Food bank ...These places do the most good for those in need...
However ...
ALL Charities do more good than nothing ...There are some top notch Philanthropist's out there who do their fair share as well ....
If you don't like to give without receiving ...Remember most donations are deductible ..
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 28th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
The most efficient charity is most likely your local religious charity, since it's so grassroots. If you're not part of any religious community, then I don't know. As far as secular charities go, I give to UNICEF since I don't see it wasting money on TV, radio, and magazine ads. I'm sure there are others, but I guess if you see it on TV, especially on prime time, then you know half the money's going to advertising. So ironically enough, the less well known local religious charities, though less well known, are likely a hell of a lot more efficient than the well-known ones wasting half of the money making themselves known on TV.It's been brought to my attention that some of the better known charities have huge overhead expenses, particularly the stipend to the C.E.O.s I am looking for confirmation of this. What is the most efficient charity. I'm suggesting the Salvation Army passes on the greatest percentage of donations directly to charity. Can anyone confirm this?
As for the Salvation Army, how it compares to secular charities, I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's probably less efficient than many other religious charities just because of the extra energy it spends on promoting itself. Again, generally speaking the local religious charity that merely collects from its own religious community is likely the most efficient since all is done internally at the grassroots level.
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Re: Efficient charities
Oct 29th, 2010
Givewell is dedicated to reviewing charities to make sure dollars spent go directly to the cause and not into CEO's pockets. Out of 413 charities, they only recommend 12 based on pretty strict evaluation criteria.
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There are some more good recommendations at The Life You Can Save:
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Last edited by mentalfloss; Oct 29th, 2010 at 10:30 AM..
#24
Re: Efficient charities
Oct 30th, 2010
At Christmas our family tradition is giving to 4 charities instead of gifts. The Sally Ann is one of them. Luv them for what they do. The others are the Christmas Bureau, Hope Mission and the Stollery Children's Hospital, all local. Makes one feel good - just wish sometimes we could give more.
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Oct 30th, 2010
The first question I ask is how much does the board of directors get paid. I know of lots of charities where the answer is zero. Those are the ones I give to.
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Oct 30th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup
My sentiments exactly, maybe you could have a word with my wife. At Christmas our family tradition is giving to 4 charities instead of gifts. The Sally Ann is one of them. Luv them for what they do. The others are the Christmas Bureau, Hope Mission and the Stollery Children's Hospital, all local. Makes one feel good - just wish sometimes we could give more.
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Oct 30th, 2010
Most people give donations for the tax deductions and charities knows this and that’s why they line their pockets first and what is left over goes to the causes which is a very small percentage of the money originally donated.
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Oct 30th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Perfect description of the typical selfish liberal, by a self-admiring liberal.Most people give donations for the tax deductions and charities knows this and that’s why they line their pockets first and what is left over goes to the causes which is a very small percentage of the money originally donated.
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Oct 30th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
You ARE depressed! Most people give donations for the tax deductions and charities knows this and that’s why they line their pockets first and what is left over goes to the causes which is a very small percentage of the money originally donated.
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
Hey Y.J. Try some raisin bran- maybe it will get some sh*t out of your system. Perfect description of the typical selfish liberal, by a self-admiring liberal.
#30
Re: Efficient charities
Oct 30th, 2010
Charity begins at home so they say.
Volunteer locally, pocket your money and ask for a receipt equivelant to your time as labour and hand that in to the feds for your tax credit.
You get a tax credit and a warm fuzzy feeling and as another old idiom states "if you want something done right, do it yourself ".
Volunteer locally, pocket your money and ask for a receipt equivelant to your time as labour and hand that in to the feds for your tax credit.
You get a tax credit and a warm fuzzy feeling and as another old idiom states "if you want something done right, do it yourself ".
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