I'm studying you. Is this ok?

bariboh

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Hello!

I am a third-year undergraduate student of public policy at Carleton University. As a term paper for my policy research class, I am conducting a content analysis of six Canadian political message boards, including this one.

A content analysis is a systematic assessment of the form and substance of a medium of communication. Ethical considerations play a very minor role in this type of research because researchers can imply consent from the fact that the material they are examining has been published. Also, there is no direct contact with the researcher and the authors of the content, so nothing that the researcher does can severely impact the authors’ well-being. University ethics codes contain rules that reflect these assumptions, and they consider anything that is freely available on the internet to be “published material”. For this reason, I began my study without asking for your consent.

My research looked only at messages that related to Afghanistan and were posted in September 2006 or December 2008. I looked for differing opinions about Canada’s mission, how these were articulated, how the debate progressed, and how the medium of communication affects the conversation.

Over the course of my research, I got the feeling that I was eavesdropping. I learned in class to trust my intuition when it comes to ethics; uncomfortable feelings are often an indication of ethical issues that need to be discussed.

This message is a part of what sociologists call “debriefing”. Once the observation phase of a study is complete, researchers conduct interviews with their subjects in order to better understand how the research affects the subjects personally. This helps to clarify ethical questions for future research.

I want to know what you think about my study, especially in regard to the following questions:

1)Do you consider your forum posts to be public information or a private conversation?
2)Do you feel that I violated your privacy in reading and/or studying your posts?
3)Should I have asked for permission first?
4)Would it violate your privacy if I quoted your post in my paper?
5)Would it violate your privacy if I referred to your username in my paper?
6)Would your opinion be different if my paper were to be published? (It won’t.)
7)Would your opinion be different if I were working for the government? (I’m not.)

Feel free to offer anything that you think will help me with these ethical questions, and my research in general. I am also curious about who you all are in real life (e.g. age, occupation, etc.), though I understand if you want to preserve your anonymity. I will check back in a couple of days to address any concerns you might have. I am also happy to post the final version of my paper, once I am finished writing it.


Thank you! :smile:



Grégoire Baribeau
3rd Year Public Affairs and Policy Management
Specializing in International Studies
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
 

lone wolf

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We never know who is reading these things anyhow. It IS the WORLD WIDE web. Whether it's the spoken word in a public place or printed in any media, one should be aware of what they say....
 

earth_as_one

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1)Do you consider your forum posts to be public information or a private conversation?

Public

2)Do you feel that I violated your privacy in reading and/or studying your posts?

No

3)Should I have asked for permission first?

No

4)Would it violate your privacy if I quoted your post in my paper?

No

5)Would it violate your privacy if I referred to your username in my paper?

No

6)Would your opinion be different if my paper were to be published? (It won’t.)

No

7)Would your opinion be different if I were working for the government? (I’m not.)

No

But this website belongs to the people/person running it. You should clear it with them.
 

VanIsle

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Hello!

I am a third-year undergraduate student of public policy at Carleton University. As a term paper for my policy research class, I am conducting a content analysis of six Canadian political message boards, including this one.

A content analysis is a systematic assessment of the form and substance of a medium of communication. Ethical considerations play a very minor role in this type of research because researchers can imply consent from the fact that the material they are examining has been published. Also, there is no direct contact with the researcher and the authors of the content, so nothing that the researcher does can severely impact the authors’ well-being. University ethics codes contain rules that reflect these assumptions, and they consider anything that is freely available on the internet to be “published material”. For this reason, I began my study without asking for your consent.

My research looked only at messages that related to Afghanistan and were posted in September 2006 or December 2008. I looked for differing opinions about Canada’s mission, how these were articulated, how the debate progressed, and how the medium of communication affects the conversation.

Over the course of my research, I got the feeling that I was eavesdropping. I learned in class to trust my intuition when it comes to ethics; uncomfortable feelings are often an indication of ethical issues that need to be discussed.

This message is a part of what sociologists call “debriefing”. Once the observation phase of a study is complete, researchers conduct interviews with their subjects in order to better understand how the research affects the subjects personally. This helps to clarify ethical questions for future research.

I want to know what you think about my study, especially in regard to the following questions:

1)Do you consider your forum posts to be public information or a private
conversation?
Posts are public because you can quiry the same topic in google for example and come across one of these posts.
2)Do you feel that I violated your privacy in reading and/or studying your posts?
No. None of us really know each other personally.
3)Should I have asked for permission first?
I don't think it matters
4)Would it violate your privacy if I quoted your post in my paper?
Not unless you used our user name but even then, it would be limited
5)Would it violate your privacy if I referred to your username in my paper?
I wouldn't like that
6)Would your opinion be different if my paper were to be published? (It won’t.)
No
7)Would your opinion be different if I were working for the government? (I’m not.)
Not as long as "freedom of speech" applies.

Feel free to offer anything that you think will help me with these ethical questions, and my research in general. I am also curious about who you all are in real life (e.g. age, occupation, etc.), though I understand if you want to preserve your anonymity. I will check back in a couple of days to address any concerns you might have. I am also happy to post the final version of my paper, once I am finished writing it.


Thank you! :smile:



Grégoire Baribeau
3rd Year Public Affairs and Policy Management
Specializing in International Studies
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Hope that helps.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Of course it's okay. You don't need any permissions, this is a public forum accessible to anyone. You don't need permission from published authors to study their works, I can't see that what's posted here is any different, it's out there for all to see. Study it all you want, say whatever you think is true about it. Academic respectability requires that you identify the sources of things you refer to so others can check your citations, and you must be prepared to defend whatever you conclude, but as a third year student you must know that by now. Free speech is both a right and responsibility: say what you want, but be able to back it up with logic and evidence.
 

Colpy

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Student doing research?

Go for it!

If I wanted to keep my opinions to myself, I wouldn't be here.

Nor would anyone else, IMHO.
 

JLM

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Hey, if anyone can reap any benefits from my mindless utterings, they can fill their boots, but just don't try to pass it off as gospel because I said it. LOL
 

Ron in Regina

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I'm studying you. Is this ok?

Welcome to Canadian Content Forums Bariboh. Fill your boots
and good luck with your paper. I do appreciate your honesty in
informing the Forum of your intentions.

On any give day there might be 200 members that log on, many
comment but many more log on just to follow Threads they just
wouldn't be able to read without being logged in. With over 1500
active members, and thousands of people daily just dropping in to
look around, nothing on the Forum is truly private except for
Private Messages, which you won't have access until you make
50 postings or something along those lines.

If you've got the feeling that you're eavesdropping, don't worry
about it. Thousands do it every day here, and every member knows
and understands this. It is truly a non-issue.

1)Do you consider your forum posts to be public information or a private conversation?
Public information. Any private conversations would take place via PM's (private messages).
2)Do you feel that I violated your privacy in reading and/or studying your posts?
Not at all, and you are one of thousands daily.
3)Should I have asked for permission first?
No...but it's very honest and demonstrates integrity that you've made your intentions known.
4)Would it violate your privacy if I quoted your post in my paper?
No...I don't believe so, but the member to ask would be Andem as he actually owns this
site. You can't PM him directly yet, but you can post questions to him directly on his "wall"
in his Profile. It'll make sense once you see it.
5)Would it violate your privacy if I referred to your username in my paper?
That question you would want to direct directly to Andem again.
6)Would your opinion be different if my paper were to be published? (It won’t.)
Not at all.
7)Would your opinion be different if I were working for the government? (I’m not.)
Not at all.
 

Spade

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To say "I am studying you" may be an unintended assertion on your part. It may have been preferable to say, "I am exploring the cross-section of positions..." However, as you are certainly aware, these fora are not a random sampling of those positions. Embedded within positions presented are those of political operatives - self appointed or otherwise, cliques who use ad hominem attacks to discredit opposing ideas, and generally those who are more adamant in believing in the "correctness" of their posts! And, as is often the case, many here who would wish to comment on a particular thread avoid doing so because they do not wish to engage in a personalized debate. In any analysis, that disclaimer is a requisite,
 

Just the Facts

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Why do I get the feeling that the study has just begun with this thread. <shudder>

:)

For the first time in years, I completely agree with EAO. :)
 

karrie

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The only problem I would have with such a thing is if quotes were taken and used from a 'members only' area which is not accessible to the general public, but only those who sign in and agree to the terms of service. But, so long as it's been posted in a public area, go nuts.
 

gerryh

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jeez.....I could have so much fun with this..... but I prefer to serve only one timeout at a time.
 
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Curiosity

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To Bariboh

To say "I am studying you" may be an unintended assertion on your part. It may have been preferable to say, "I am exploring the cross-section of positions..." However, as you are certainly aware, these fora are not a random sampling of those positions. Embedded within positions presented are those of political operatives - self appointed or otherwise, cliques who use ad hominem attacks to discredit opposing ideas, and generally those who are more adamant in believing in the "correctness" of their posts! And, as is often the case, many here who would wish to comment on a particular thread avoid doing so because they do not wish to engage in a personalized debate. In any analysis, that disclaimer is a requisite,

Interesting responses you garnered... I particularly enjoyed Spade's thoughtful reply quoted above - and the membership gave you positive and helpful answers which no doubt will give you some material for your information gathering.

Personally, I have responded in the affirmative with all but the last two scenarios - to which I would prefer to reply: "I require further information before I agree".

I hope you share with the membership here your final submission- and wish you success.
 
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Cannuck

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Is there a physical involved? Nobody's sticking a finger up my bum. I'll make that perfectly clear before I let this go any further.