You can really only make the case that he knew he would do something unacceptable like this if he'd done it before. If he's not been violent in the past despite being off his meds then he'd have no way of knowing that his hallucinations would cause him to kill someone. The vast majority of schizophrenic people are not violent. It's a tiny minority who wind up doing things like this and unfortunately it causes a lot of prejudice against those with mental illnesses in general.
Many schizohrenics are quite intelligent, so when in that intelligent state of
mind, they should know that if they want to exist in a state of normality they
should never go off of the medication, and 'often' they do go off of the medication, with statements that they have nothing wrong with them anymore, and that is a stupid attitude. In an intelligent state of mind they also know that
schizophrenics can behave in a way that is harmful to others, even if they
haven't done so before.
This fellow who did the dirty deed surely realized that he was heading down a
road of doom, and did nothing about it, before the fact, I can't believe that he
committed that murder with absolutely no indication that he could be capable
of harm to others.
Living in a state of normalcy is not required to be non-violent. We let non-violent adults choose to live without psych meds all the time even though they would be better off mentally on their meds. An intelligent person educated about schizophrenia would also know that schizophrenics are rarely violent. You or I COULD behave violently tomorrow. We probably won't, just like most people with schizophrenia probably won't. You'll meet way more sane murderers and abusers than you will mentally ill ones.
I realize it's easier to believe he knew he could be harmful to others and he had the ability to just change his behavior, because that's a much more comforting view. I just don't think it's true. You're looking at his behavior with the benefit of a logical mind. He didn't have that. You don't know that he was even rational when he chose to go off meds. All you know is he stopped taking his meds, not whether or not they actually worked in the first place. Was he on the right drugs? Was he on them long enough for them to work? Did he even take them (there are some great med fakers out there)? Or was he humouring the docs and nurses when all along in his treatment he was still hearing the voices despite taking his meds?
I can only relate my thoughts from my experience with a schizohrenic, and his
behavior was exactly that which I explained. He would have periods where he
was quite normal, very intelligent, and would deny there was anything wrong
with him, that would require a professional to help him, very annoying, and
he continued that behavior for several years, gave his family a horrible life,
was physically violent to his children and wife, and just took on an arrogant
position that put all of the family in a position of being unable to help him at all.
Thankfully he is now far away from all of the family, and has been for a couple
of years, his childen had to have therapy and their mom as well, and it took
them a year to get back to normal, as over a long period of time they became
very passive and worried all the time, and 'stuck' in a life that was miserable,
until it turned more violant, the law was brought in, and finally the end of
chapter of their lives, and on to the struggle back to normalcy.
Yeah, hearing the voices is definitely what drives the schizofrenic and drive them
utterly insane by the interference into their desire to think in a normal way.
And while he was committing the murder it is apparant and obvious that he was
insane and under the influence of his illness, and that is what gets him off the hook, and free of jail, and when he shows normal tendencies over a consistent
period of time again, he will walk 'free' on the streets.
My only gripe is that, when he decides he doesn't need his meds again, the whole
problem will arise again, and when he committs another atrosity he will again be
protected by 'his illness', under the law.
In my opinion, anyone who kills another, is at that time 'not normal', how could
he/she be, when ending someone elses life, but that particular 'not normal' has
no name, (thankfully), and that person must be punished under the law of the
It isn't just hearing the voices that makes them crazy, it's BELIEVING those voices are real. That's a whole lot more than just "not normal".
Li isn't going to be walking free on the streets. He's going to be monitored pretty closely if he's ever well enough to be released.
In most cases, schizohrenics tend to hurt themselves more so than other people. Li represents a MINOR abberation, not for what he's done, but what we can expect from schizohrenics in general, and, I believe, will never be let out. Until the general population removes the sigma of mental illness as an illness, people like Li will continue to fall through the cracks. This petition doesn't do anything to help the situation but is a crass way of stigmatizing an already stimatized disease.
And, as usual, and, realizing that it is a sad and pitiful illness, the victim is
never talked about, just forgotton about, he will not be alive again even if you give
him medication from mars, and his family will never be the same, but we are
forced to pity and feel sorry for the murderer, even though he might have been
able to do something about himself through medical help earlier, we will never
really know that, but it is a possibility.