Anti-kosher view = Antisemitic?

[karrie]

Okay, I have to ask. We have the thread running right now in which a new member is complaining about having to pay for kosher food as it is so prevalent where he lives in Montreal. He doesn't want his hard earned dollars going to a religious organization without his having consented to it, and without him having what he perceives as a reasonable choice in the matter.

Because of this view, he is being accused of antisemitism.

Yet, this view is not much different from the views I've heard expressed on here regarding money potentially going to christian churches or organizations in sneaky underhanded ways. And the people expressing these views aren't always 'against' religion, or against christians. They just don't want to be supporting something which is of no direct benefit to them personally. We all want to hold onto as many pennies for ourselves as possible, or have a direct say in where we put them.

So what is it SPECIFICALLY that makes it different, makes it okay to lay a blame of 'antisemitic'?

 

[lone wolf]

Nothing anti-semitic about it. It's more anti hidden tax. Too many folks use tag defense when they can't come up with a valid thought of their own.

Woof!

 

[DurkaDurka]

Yup, the anti defamation league will crucify you for saying such things.

 

[Nuggler]

Yup, the anti defamation league will crucify you for saying such things.

Watch that "crucify" there, eh!!8O

 

[darkbeaver]

What's a semite?

 

[hermite]

What's a semite?

That's a good question. People who use the "anti-" term should really understand what the pro word is first.

Salute!

 

[jimshort19]

Karrie, "Yet, this view is not much different from the views I've heard expressed on here regarding money potentially going to christian churches or organizations in sneaky underhanded ways."

In sneaky and underhanded ways? You have disqualified your own comparator.

 

[hermanntrude]

there's nothing anti-semetic specifically about anti-kosher views.

However, the way this fellow was presenting his views definitely gave me the impression he had a thinly-veiled stupidly-disguised and frankly really annoying agenda.

 

[lone wolf]

Is thinly-veiled, stupidly-disguised and, frankly, really annoying anti-semitic?

Woof!

 

[darkbeaver]

And maybe that in itself is what we should be examining. How have we been trained to go there immeadiatly, I have done it unawares all my life, and I know many others are senseative to the same conditioning.

 

[karrie]

'Semite' refers to people and 'semitic' to culture and languages of the middle east... a wide assortment. Anti-semitism is however, the widely accepted term for a view which is against Jewish peoples specifically. While the two don't directly apply to one another, it's English. What else in it makes perfect sense? I'm not about to start making up new terms because the ones society uses now are odd.

 

[lone wolf]

'Semite' refers to people and 'semitic' to culture and languages of the middle east... a wide assortment. Anti-semitism is however, the widely accepted term for a view which is against Jewish peoples specifically. While the two don't directly apply to one another, it's English. What else in it makes perfect sense? I'm not about to start making up new terms because the ones society uses now are odd.

The term isn't odd ... it's the little-minds who adopted the word without knowing it's meaning - much like they who deride free thinking people as conspiracist or dismiss folks who don't believe as them as tin-hatters. People, eh? Living proof that God has a sense of humour....

Woof!

 

[darkbeaver]

Actually anti-semitism has its roots in Zionism I believe, anti-Judaic is what is meant but anti-semite is what we have, while most Jews are in fact not members of the semitic race but eastern european for the most part I believe. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

[karrie]

Actually anti-semitism has its roots in Zionism I believe, anti-Judaic is what is meant but anti-semite is what we have, while most Jews are in fact not members of the semitic race but eastern european for the most part I believe. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

I don't think you're wrong.... being nitpicky and skewing the point, yes, but not wrong.

 

[MikeyDB]

The word Kosher now....isn't that a Yiddish word? And who speaks Yiddish?

Well actually Yiddish is "high-German" but the dialect spoken by Jews is a vernacular usage. Hebrew isn't Yiddish but does anyone know the etiology of "kosher"..? I believe it has something to do with Jewish dietary law.....

So is the focus on the costs superimposed on everyone to meet the requirements of one particular religious cult or is it as has been batted around about these parts a subtle form of racism?

 

[Lester]

He has a reasonable choice, you cannot tell me that he can go to the largest shopping centre in Montreal and walk out with nothing because it's all Kosher that in no uncertain terms is crap - let's not get bogged down with semetic semantics

 

[Outta here]

Semetic semantics. Well done! I do enjoy a good word play.

 

[Lester]

time

Semetic semantics. Well done! I do enjoy a good word play.

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get em once in a while

 

[darkbeaver]

Semetic semantics are seminal in this situation sadly.

 

[Lester]

sickenely so, sorry to say