why i have to pay more for kosher


krakra
#1
hi,,,

i dont know why i have to pay more for my food to be kosher certified
(blessed by a rabbin).

you can check the signs of the koshered food on the attached pic.

thanks for answering.
 
karrie
#2
my guess is it's more expensive because you're paying an extra person that isn't involved in the preparation of non kosher food. Plus, it's not in as high a demand in all areas. But that's just a guess.

I know that living where I do most of the halal meats are cheaper than conventional western butcher store meats, and I suspect that the high demand from the large Muslim community is the reason.
 
Kreskin
#3
I have never heard of food that is certified blessed by a rabbi. Ya learn something every day.
 
gerryh
#4
you pretty well nailed it on the head Karrie. It would be a combination of the 2. I know that I worked for an egg distrubuting company that had to pay a rabbi to come in and inspect some products to be able to call it "kosher". This added to the cost of the product and was passed on up the line.
 
krakra
#5
hi ,,,
my friends, please check on your food products the signs i have included in the pic. and you will find that almost 80% of your food is kosher (blessed and certified by a rabbin).
why i have to pay a rabbin to bless my food ????????
 
karrie
#6
Oh... so you're NOT eating kosher, and you're upset that you're paying extra to meet the religious needs of others? Well, again... if 80% of the food is kosher, it's a supply and demand issue. Obviously there is a demand for such a high percentage of food to be kosher. If you don't want to pay the extra, you can be picky and sort through for food that isn't kosher.
 
gerryh
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

hi ,,,
my friends, please check on your food products the signs i have included in the pic. and you will find that almost 80% of your food is kosher (blessed and certified by a rabbin).
why i have to pay a rabbin to bless my food ????????

just went through my cupboards and very little has a kosher designation.
 
Tonington
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

you pretty well nailed it on the head Karrie. It would be a combination of the 2. I know that I worked for an egg distrubuting company that had to pay a rabbi to come in and inspect some products to be able to call it "kosher". This added to the cost of the product and was passed on up the line.

That's what I've heard from those in the food biz.

Three years ago I visited a former student of my college prof, and he owned a smoke house that specialized in sea food products. It cost him a significant amount of money to change his production to meet the demands of the Kosher market. But he wasn't complaining, it opened his company up to $10 million in new contracts. The production costs weren't much of a barrier for his new customers, but he lost other customers due to the changes in prices. His operation was too small to run different products like that. Anyways, he was smiling.
 
krakra
#9
all the question is :
kosher foods are for jewish people (my respect to them) , and i am not jewish . why i have to pay extra for something i did not ask for.
Mr. gerryh , when you go to a big mall , try to see the percentage of koshered foods, you will find that it is the majority.
i think that jewish are around 2% of canadian people , it will be fair to have around this figure as koshered foods.
thanks
 
Praxius
#10
See the Rabbis have to test each product to make sure there isn't any pork/pig, etc. So they have to lick and taste the surface of each product and then they bless it and wrap it back up again.

But that's why it costs more, because it takes time for them to lick each product and make sure there's no bacon by-product, and that slows the production/shipment, because if they make too much as they can, it'll go bad before the Rabbi can lick them all. So to slow the sale and consumption of the product they also raise the prices.

Or so I was told.
 
krakra
#11
hi,,,
the process of how they do it ,is not the question . the real question is that this checking (blessing) is mainly intended for the respected jewish people.
but i am not jewish and the same is for the 98% of other canadians.
why we have to pay a rabbin to check our foods.
i need an answer friends.
 
Tonington
#12
Contrary to popular myth, Kosher does not mean it was blessed by a Rabbi. There are people from the certifying bodies that will visit your production facilities from time to time for inspection, but that is to ensure that the preparation of the foods is in line with the Jewish law that deals with food.

Think of it this way, it's aolt like HACAAP, the standard for food safety, only Kosher certification is more stringent.

Old testament laws over which foods are safe to eat were basically food safety. Kosher is no different. Tools used in meat production can't be used for dairy, that's just sanitary, and it should be common sense. It's like biosecurity for food, and it's a good idea. Pay cheaper if you want, or can find it. Personally, I like my food inspected for bugs and contaminants.
 
darkbeaver
#13
No I don't think that's right Tonnington, I heard somewhere it all has to be individually licked.
 
MikeyDB
#14
It's only reasonable that everyone pay for the Israeli state..... one way or another....
 
Pangloss
#15
We have to invent a variant of Godwin's Law to describe how quickly someone will turn any discussion of anything Jewish into a discussion of Israel.

Pangloss
 
Lester
#16
Actually a rabbi does indeed bless the food , but that is only part of it he also inspects the way that the goods are processed so that they are of the highest hygenic standards-I'm not jewish but i'll eat kosher when available.
 
Nuggler
#17
Does 'rabbi = rabin'? Seriously, never heard of "rabin" before. But then there's lotsastuff what bees unown to me.

That job's gotta be hard on the tongue, official kosher meat-licker. But then, once one's tongue is just a slab of muscle, there must be other avenues of employment which would assist in garnering an income. Ya think?!

Yowser.

Tony's abattoir and dog food rendering company is definitely not kosher, but he puts up a mean steak, num num. Plus the prices is low. Gimme a call you need meat ok?

Whasthefussanyways? You don't like kosher, don't buy it. Youse do, pay the small premium and enjoy.......... Gotta keep the red red rabins in business eh!
whatever.

 
krakra
#18
hi,,,
i dont mind if the rabi or rabbin bless,lick , certify ,check ......or whatever he wants to do but it must done for the people that he represents, and i dont have to pay him for this (i dont ask him to do it) there is other authorities who are paid by my taxes who are allowed to do it for me.
i can give you only one figure (20 millions of dollars are done annually by only one organisation of rabbins to kosher the food).
for the man who tells me that i can buy other than kosher if i dont want it , i can assure you that i have tried ,but unfortunately i found that almost everything is koshered ,even the dish cleaner!.
if this is not logical , i must be from another world.
 
DurkaDurka
#19
I know when I go to the grocery store, meats are clearly labeled Halal or Kosher, separate from what the gentiles eat.
 
krakra
#20
clearly ?????

whenthere is a small K,MK,U COR.............. on your food ,how you know that this is a koshered intended for a man represented by a rabbin who certified his food.
there is over 400 organisations who are allowed to kosher and everyone has its own label.
 
darkbeaver
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by PanglossView Post

We have to invent a variant of Godwin's Law to describe how quickly someone will turn any discussion of anything Jewish into a discussion of Israel.

Pangloss

We could discuss that. But we would get to Zionism. Is there a conection? Is a Catholic connected to Vatican city. A Muslim to Mecca. The connecting post was valid. It's also true that any discussion of Isreal leads to discussion of Jews. This was and is by Isreals design, isn't it? The inability for the non Jew to separate religon from State when discussing Isreal has been designed by the state of Isreal, the "Jewish State".
 
MikeyDB
#22
OK Pangloss let's pretend that the money taken by the Jews is kept here in the land of the suckers and marks...let's not entertain the notion for a moment that money scammed from the ignorant gentiles actually makes its way to Israel....

You keep on believing that shyte Pangloss and I'm sure the world will be a happier place for you....

See ya at Temple...
 
gerryh
#23
IT'S THE JEWS FAULT....IT'S THE JEWS FAULT.....IT'S THE JEWS FAULT.........




what a couple of idiots
 
MikeyDB
#24
GerryH

Is the Roman Catholic Church responsible? Are the Mormons and the Baptists responsible?

I've got thirty seconds tell me everything you know.
 
hermanntrude
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

hi,,,
i dont mind if the rabi or rabbin bless,lick , certify ,check ......or whatever he wants to do but it must done for the people that he represents, and i dont have to pay him for this (i dont ask him to do it) there is other authorities who are paid by my taxes who are allowed to do it for me.
i can give you only one figure (20 millions of dollars are done annually by only one organisation of rabbins to kosher the food).
for the man who tells me that i can buy other than kosher if i dont want it , i can assure you that i have tried ,but unfortunately i found that almost everything is koshered ,even the dish cleaner!.
if this is not logical , i must be from another world.

You must be from a different part of the world to me and my friends, since i surveyed a bunch of people i know, and their food is generally NOT kosher, with the ocassional exception in their closets. I'd estimate approximately 5% of my foodstuffs is certified kosher.

As for your question "why should I have to pay for kosher products", there is a very simple answer.

You don't. If you don't want it, don't buy it.
 
karrie
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

hi,,,
i dont mind if the rabi or rabbin bless,lick , certify ,check ......or whatever he wants to do but it must done for the people that he represents, and i dont have to pay him for this (i dont ask him to do it) there is other authorities who are paid by my taxes who are allowed to do it for me.
i can give you only one figure (20 millions of dollars are done annually by only one organisation of rabbins to kosher the food).
for the man who tells me that i can buy other than kosher if i dont want it , i can assure you that i have tried ,but unfortunately i found that almost everything is koshered ,even the dish cleaner!.
if this is not logical , i must be from another world.

Dish cleaner requires no blessing or constant inspection... merely a review of the ingredients to assure that there is no animal fat used in the soap, and they can then bear the certification. The cost per bottle of dishsoap is nothing that would be of concern to a non-jewish consumer. The large costs you speak of come from the inspections and certifications of meats and dairy (not the cereals, canned goods, or frozen foods which are probably the ones concerning you). Meats and dairy are where there is repeated inspection occurring. And I don't care what anyone says. If you live in a largely non-Jewish area, meats and dairy are easy to obtain without the Kosher certification (I have to seek out halal or kosher butchers... I can't get either in my save-on grocery store). If you can't get it non-kosher, then it's because you're living amongst the large majority of the 2% of Canada's jewish population (they're not spread evenly across the country, the populations are way higher in larger cities), and it's a matter of supply and demand. If their demand is high, then kosher food is what you'll find.
 
krakra
#27
hi hermanntrude,,,

sur i am rooted in this world .
please, first try to know how to identify a koshered food (check the list attached in this post) then go to any mall or grocery and give me the answer.
see the following youtube clip ,may be it will be clear for you.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvZiQ95hFaR9I

 
gerryh
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDBView Post

GerryH

Is the Roman Catholic Church responsible? Are the Mormons and the Baptists responsible?

I've got thirty seconds tell me everything you know.


actually mikey...I don't need to prove that there isn't a jewish conspiracy.....it's you who who needs to prove there is....and to tell you the truth....I don't have time to listen to the comedy hour right now.
 
karrie
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

hi hermanntrude,,,

sur i am rooted in this world .
please, first try to know how to identify a koshered food (check the list attached in this post) then go to any mall or grocery and give me the answer.
see the following youtube clip ,may be it will be clear for you.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvZiQ95hFaR9I

The instant the video stated that there are no health benefits to kosher inspection, it completely lost me. Kosher law is so strict in its food handling policy that kosher foods are not subject to needing further inspections from other agencies. So, what they call a 'jewish tax' makes up for itself in avoiding what one could just as reasonably call a 'gentile tax' of secular food inspection agencies.
 
darkbeaver
#30
I want my food inspected by socialists or communists but not religious nuts. How in the hell does kosher inspection ensure overall safety of food.
 

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