why i have to pay more for kosher


Lester
#31
The extra money paid for Kosher is fair exchange for having food processed in a very strict way in terms of Hygeine - I get a little relief knowing that the plant is'nt overun by vermin - I worked subcontract in a meat proceesing facility once I could'nt beleive the things I saw animal innards all over, flys crawling on food, mice, god knows what else- haven't eaten a hot dog since.
 
jimshort19
#32
kakra, "if this is not logical , i must be from another world."

It is not logical to protest a food quality official from another planet when the inspection adds little or no expense to your food or taxes, and tickles the minority that the official serves in Canada.

Then there is bilingualism. That costs money. Then there is HRDC, costing billions, never making a job.

So, how long have you hated religion, or is it the Jew thing?
 
karrie
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

I want my food inspected by socialists or communists but not religious nuts. How in the hell does kosher inspection ensure overall safety of food.

kosher food handlilng laws are more stringent about cleanliness and cross contamination as well as insect contamination (insects are not kosher), than Canadian and American food inspection policies, which allow a certain ratio of insect contamination in our food supply. They may be zealots, but that's not always a bad thing when it comes to cleanliness in food preparation.
 
Tonington
#34
The bottom line is that the Kashrut law is a means of ensuring food safety. If you don't want safe food, go to Taco Bell and purchase a $0.99 taco made of Grade F meat. Prison inmates eat safer food than that, but not as cheaply
 
Lester
#35
I found a link describing the process of Koshering cloven hoofed animals it's quite a complicated process. www.oznet.ksu.edu/meatscience/column/kosher.htm (external - login to view)
 
jimshort19
#36
kakra, "why i have to pay a rabbin to bless my food ????????

You don't. You say that you don't mind if a Jew licks your food. How open-minded of you. Real open. Like, not even there - no, of course, you are lying.

You don't like Jews. Why don't you start an anti-Jew thread? How about opening it by objecting to the silly food traditions many of them Jews observe? Claim it's costing you. Tell us that you don't mind your 80% Jew-licked food.
 
Lester
#37
I really don't think they lick the food Kakra - I haven't seen ant lit on the food likkin tecnhique employed by rabbis-anybody gotta link
 
Pangloss
#38
Lester:

I think I saw a video of that - but you have to be over eighteen to buy it.

Pangloss
 
karrie
#39
the 'licking food' comment wasn't krakra's... it was someone else (I'm not wasting my time reading back through to find who it was again) poking fun. He simply responded to it by stating he didn't care HOW they blessed the food.
 
Lester
#40
My mistake- I didn't really look I just saw the debate about it raging and had this picture in my head of a rabbi licking sides of beef.
 
Unforgiven
#41
Lower mouse content for starters. But hey you choose what you want to buy.
 
Pangloss
#42
Wait a second - that beef licking rabbi video I bought was a FAKE?

Oh, man - there's thirty bucks right down the drain. . .

Pangloss
 
lone wolf
#43
So ... this letter 'K' on my ham 'n' cheese with the kosher dill ain't really kosher are ya tellin' me?

Woof!
 
Pangloss
#44
Did the pickle smell kinda earthy? I'm pretty sure that part of the video was real. . .

Pangloss
 
karrie
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

So ... this letter 'K' on my ham 'n' cheese with the kosher dill ain't really kosher are ya tellin' me?

Woof!

lol... the two of the major tenets of kosher law... no animals that aren't cloven hooved and cud chewing, and no eating meat and dairy together. If it weren't for that kosher dill, you'd be REALLY screwed. lol.
 
TenPenny
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

why i have to pay extra for something i did not ask for.

Can you please explain how you know that you are paying 'extra'???

Do you have information on what the cost of these items is WITHOUT the kosher certification?

Do you have any facts?
 
Pangloss
#47
TenPenny:

From my experience, kosher does indeed tend to be more expensive. My data comes from shopping.

Pangloss
 
karrie
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by PanglossView Post

TenPenny:

From my experience, kosher does indeed tend to be more expensive. My data comes from shopping.

Pangloss

well, after watching the little video about the symbols etc., I did a little personal research in my pantry. The only items I could find bearing a kosher symbol was the cheap box of no name crackers. The more expensive ones had no symbol of any sort for any kosher certification. I don't see an 'extra cost' to me there.
 
Pangloss
#49
That's why it's only a tendency, Karrie. My kosher salt is cheaper than the sea salt I sometimes buy.

It's better around the rim of a Margarita glass, too.

Pangloss
 
krakra
#50
hi friends,,,

when it costs to a factory, around 40.000$ per year to have a kosher certification .
question: from where these factories bosses will compensate this extra money......
 
jimshort19
#51
krakra,

"when it costs to a factory, around 40.000$ per year to have a kosher certification .
question: from where these factories bosses will compensate this extra money...... "

The workers must pay. Usually this is done through harvesting valuable body parts to be worn by the gnomes of Zurich and merchants of jewels. These kinds of questions should not be asked, or you'll find your eyes counting diamonds in Amsterdam or London.
 
krakra
#52
for the friends who are telling that koshering food deals with hygienic matters .
i will say , ok . let the rabbins who kosher our food , give us clearly what they are doing exactly and how they are doing it.
kosher doesnt have any relation with hygienic matters , its all about religious restrictions on the food.
 
MikeyDB
#53
Oy Vey Complain Complain Complain.....

With RC's diddling little boys and girls, Anglicans promoting homosexuality, Islamists conditioning children to become suicide bombers, Mormons advocating polygamy, Sikhs carrying knives and re-writing uniform codes all over the world..... let's all pray.....
 
krakra
#54
please mikey , we are not talking about religions.
this will be another debate if you want.
till now i dont have any clear answer to my very clear question !
 
karrie
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

for the friends who are telling that koshering food deals with hygienic matters .
i will say , ok . let the rabbins who kosher our food , give us clearly what they are doing exactly and how they are doing it.
kosher doesnt have any relation with hygienic matters , its all about religious restrictions on the food.

You obviously need to do some more research.

Kosher law is that food must not be contaminated with insects or rodents (since neither is kosher food). Thus extreme care is taken to keep buildings and processing equipment clean to prevent both.

Kosher law states that animals we eat must be slaughtered for that purpose, they may not die of disease, or be diseased or deformed when slaughtered.

How can you feel those aren't hygiene issues?
 
krakra
#56
ok ,lets say that it is all hygienic matters.
let these people do it under the canadian laws and the money they get , will go to the canadian government.
also , if it is an hygienic matter , there is many specialized organizations who can do it , dont forget the big income generated.
 
Tonington
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by krakraView Post

for the friends who are telling that koshering food deals with hygienic matters .
i will say , ok . let the rabbins who kosher our food , give us clearly what they are doing exactly and how they are doing it.
kosher doesnt have any relation with hygienic matters , its all about religious restrictions on the food.

Religious restrictions intended for food safety. Have you even tried a google search for Kosher protocols? It's a special topic in meat science, that my school offers. It is more rigorous than normal inspection. There is a time limit from slaughter to freezer, 13 days or it loses kosher certification. Unacceptable fats are removed. Veins and arteries are removed. All bodilly fluids are removed. The hind quarter, most commonly used in Kosher, is soaked in water and salt to help drain the fluids. Meat must be washed every 72 hours in the slaughterhouse. And it can't come in contact with other sources of contamination (dairy proteins, antibiotics, other meat sources like pig). Koshered meat is eaten by more than just the Jewish peoples. It's recognized for the high degree of care involved, and many people look for that in an increasingly blind inspection system that lets e.coli and other red flags slip by.
 
MikeyDB
#58
In fact if you tell the airline when you're buying your ticket that you require Kosher food, you'll get better food than the regular fare....
 
krakra
#59
are you kiding guys , you are insulting the canadian authorities like this.
let all these restrictions be done by the canadian authorities and the money goes to canadians not to a restricted organizations!
meat ? ok . Mr ... even my dish cleaner is koshered .
 
MikeyDB
#60
Kraka..

Is that code for Cracker...just kidding...

How does Tim Hortons get away with not having all their stuff Kosherfied?

Maybe Timmy's doesn't get any business from the synagogue crowd...

Like many things related to "religious belief" it's an issue when you decide it's an issue and not an issue when you decide it isn't....

Ain't belief grand!
 

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