According to a poster here on CanCon


View Poll Results: Becoming American would be a fate worse than death for most Canadians.
Yes, that's right we're bigots. 4 16.67%
How dare the poster speak on behlaf of MOST Canadians 7 29.17%
No, that's completely untrue. 6 25.00%
Other, Don't know, Don't Care 7 29.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

I think not
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by ZanView Post

We must be coming from a different set of values, ITN. I wouldn't do that. You obviously would and are proud of it. Now's the place where I usually nod politely and say you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.... and have a good day.

Pride has nothing to do with it, I went to other forums to put juan's claim to the test. Turns out I'm not the only one who thinks he's a bigot (unless of course a vitriolic leftist read it and commented).

Like I said, I know juan from the telus days.

Now whether or not you wouldn't do what I did, is really irrelevant to me. I never mentioned his name or this site anywhere. It was completely anonymous. And you should know that.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by trieditView Post

My ilk is bigger than your ilk.

your impossible to please....insatiable lil minx....
and she's american...and she smells nice....speaking of ilks....have you tried it when your upset...lol...works for me...
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by I think notView Post

Pride has nothing to do with it, I went to other forums to put juan's claim to the test. Turns out I'm not the only one who thinks he's a bigot (unless of course a vitriolic leftist read it and commented).

Like I said, I know juan from the telus days.

Now whether or not you wouldn't do what I did, is really irrelevant to me. I never mentioned his name or this site anywhere. It was completely anonymous. And you should know that.

Hey i've had a peek in juan's trousers and theres nothing big in em..

man the politics is no more fun in here...i think when the conservative folk lose face they turn funny on everyone...

hahahahahahaha
WHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

vvarrroooooooom varrooooommmm....



oink oink...litle piggy conservative harper went to the market to buy food...it was all poisoned and he did not care cause his stock market is up...oink oink...
 
Zan
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by I think notView Post

Pride has nothing to do with it, I went to other forums to put juan's claim to the test. Turns out I'm not the only one who thinks he's a bigot (unless of course a vitriolic leftist read it and commented).

Like I said, I know juan from the telus days.

Now whether or not you wouldn't do what I did, is really irrelevant to me. I never mentioned his name or this site anywhere. It was completely anonymous. And you should know that.

Sorry ITN, I should have clarified. I was actually responding to as you a fellow member, not as a mod.

I'm aware of the manner in which you did it. At the end of the day though, a spade is still just a shovel.

We'll have to agree to disagree and as I said, leaving it there is fine with me. You'll find me a sorry adversary, ITN if you care to engage in a debate with me. I suck at it - mainly because convincing you that I'm right is completely unnecessary to my assurance that my values fit me perfectly. I don't need to try and make them fit you. I could in fact, be 'wrong'.

I don't think so though.
Last edited by Zan; Sep 8th, 2007 at 09:21 PM..Reason: typo
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by ZanView Post

We'll have to agree to disagree and as I said, leaving it there is fine with me. You'll find me a sorry adversary, ITN if you care to engage in a debate with me. I suck at it - mainly because convincing you that I'm right is completely unnecessary to my assurance that my values fit me perfectly. I don't need to try and make them fit you. I could in fact, be 'wrong'.

This is a very slippery slope zan...
When are you going to stop the troll crap....

I hate when you troll....
this is not becoming you know....
 
Zan
#66
*flicks booger at Doc*

 
triedit
#67
I wonder how long we can bilk the ilk....
 
Kreskin
#68
Anyone have a good ilk recipe?
 
lone wolf
#69
Wait a minute here! Ain't I #juan's ilk???
Ixnay on the eciperayz....

Wolf
 
Kreskin
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Wait a minute here! Ain't I #juan's ilk???
Ixnay on the eciperayz....

Wolf

You eat your ilk raw.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#71
I love the feel of my ilk jammies
 
lone wolf
#72
Hmmm... That's a trick question. Since I'm only part of #juan's ilk (went back to check - we know how verbatum works) if I were to eat ilk, raw or cooked, that would make me a cannibal - or very friendly. I need some milk....

Wolf
 
I think not
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by ZanView Post

Sorry ITN, I should have clarified. I was actually responding to as you a fellow member, not as a mod.

I'm aware of the manner in which you did it. At the end of the day though, a spade is still just a shovel.

We'll have to agree to disagree and as I said, leaving it there is fine with me. You'll find me a sorry adversary, ITN if you care to engage in a debate with me. I suck at it - mainly because convincing you that I'm right is completely unnecessary to my assurance that my values fit me perfectly. I don't need to try and make them fit you. I could in fact, be 'wrong'.

I don't think so though.

Being right is a point of view, as are values.

Goodnight.
 
#juan
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by I think notView Post

You can all play word games all you like, but I tell you that I know juan from the telus days and his vitriol is genuine. He's an American hater, hence a bigot. Period.

ITN, You haven't a clue how much ilk is in my vitriol and that makes you an even bigger, or possibly the biggest bigot that has ever been begot. That's all I'm going to say about begetting bigotry...
 
gerryh
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I know it sounds like an insult to you when it is suggested that not everyone in the world wants to be just like you. Sorry. Most Canadians want to be Canadians......even though that option doesn't appear on your nasty little poll.


I'm with you Juan....The build up to the last Quebec referendum had me thinkin of where I would be movin if Canada started to split. SOme talked about the provinces possibly joining the states. Rather than live under that criminal regime I'd be heading to New Zealand.
 
Zzarchov
#76
I'd Probably go to New Zealand too.

And I would die rather than becoming American. Nothing against American's..but would you die rather than being another nationality? Would you die before letting China annex America?
 
Curiosity
#77
Dang

I always miss the booger-flingin fights...gotta start posting later at night...

Any ilks still runnin around?

 
goat
#78
Quote:

Canada's dirty little secret: We're a lot like Americans
Personality traits close to those in U.S.: study


Misty Harris, The Ottawa Citizen

Published: Saturday, September 08, 2007

Canadians like to think of themselves as polite, soft-spoken, welcoming and as unlike their American neighbours as can be.

But a U.S. expert on personality psychology recently completed a study that reveals the two national characters are more similar than many would care to admit.

David Schmitt, a professor at Bradley University in Illinois, analysed the geographic distribution of the "Big Five" personality traits -- extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousnes, neuroticism and openness -- in 17,837 people from 56 nations. Using the U.S. as a statistical benchmark at 50.0 in each of the five categories, Canada scored 48.32 in extroversion, 49.14 in agreeableness, 49.05 in conscientiousnes, 50.58 in neuroticism and 48.75 in openness.

This means Canadians are only slightly less extroverted and open than Americans, and a touch more neurotic. It also suggests denizens of the True North are actually less agreeable and conscientious than their U.S. counterparts, turning decades of contrasting stereotypes on their head.
"One funny definition I heard is that a Canadian is someone who apologizes when you step on his foot," says Jason Kenney, Secretary of State for Multiculturalism and Canadian Identity. "We can be quite civil, but I don't think we're spineless. ... We're not people who stand back from a just fight." Given this country's personality scores, and their close statistical ties to those of Americans, that appears to be true.

But Mr. Kenney cringes at the idea of using one nation as a yardstick to measure the other.

"I'm fed up with that kind of neurotic version of Canadian nationalism where we constantly compare ourselves to the United States," he says. "We have our similarities and our differences." The Canadian participants in the Bradley University survey, which is published in the Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology, comprised 1,039 college students: three English-speaking groups from Ontario, Alberta and B.C., and one French-speaking group from Quebec. The results are considered accurate within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

Where Canadians proved most like their U.S. neighbours, reports Mr. Schmitt, was in the study sub-section dealing with attachment styles.

"North America is different from most regions of the world in that our models of self are good -- we believe we're worthy of love and we love ourselves," says Mr. Schmitt. "But our models of others are lower than the rest of the world." We think pretty darn highly of ourselves, in other words, but are deeply untrusting of the people around us.

The Quebec sample was the only group of Canadian respondents that diverged from North American averages, with scores Mr. Schmitt said more closely resembled those of France than the U.S. and English-speaking Canada.
France drew one of the lowest global scores for extroversion (45.44), was found much less agreeable (46.64) than North America in general (Canada, Mexico and U.S. together averaged 49.27), and was among the most neurotic of all surveyed nations (52.29). Exact numbers for Quebec were unavailable.

Many know juan and gerry from boards galore. Their hate, always wrapped in a blanket of bigotry, is well known.

As the article above states, it's too late for them to worry about this thread, the poll or their own hate-filled hubris and superciliousness. As to NZ gerryh, what on earth could or would possess you to think you might find an open door there amongst your dwindling sorry arsed ilk.
 
Curiosity
#79
Goat... whereas I couldn't trust my own words - you spoke for us who have given up.

 
Unforgiven
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by wallyjView Post

I beg to differ,there is many on this forum who constantly put down America. This thread is an example of this.Better dead than American,that says to me that someone really has a hate on for the states.

Context is everything. At the moment America isn't doing a great job of standing up for the values that made it a great country and one that the rest of the world can look to as a model for the future. This doesn't mean that there are no good qualities, just that a couple of really bad ones are hogging the spot light.

So when you ask who would want to be American instead of Canadian, you are asking who supports war without justice, prison without trial, action without consequences and exported greed.

This isn't at all a complete picture of America, but it's a popular one at the moment.

As I mentioned it's not the country it's the people. And some Americans do a lot of damage to the rest of the world when they get together and gain control of the direction the country moves in. The Civil War is slowly returning to cold war status. This time it's not north and south but red and blue. Now that isn't a very comfortable thought is it? So why would anyone want to join up and where do you get off calling people bigots if they don't?

It's like the "Support the troops" crap. If you try to use it so that it means agree with me or you don't support the troops, then you are yourself working against all that they mean to fight for.
 
Toro
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

I'd Probably go to New Zealand too.

And I would die rather than becoming American. Nothing against American's..but would you die rather than being another nationality? Would you die before letting China annex America?

The answer is "No." Most people would rather live and become something else than die. This has been shown over and over again throughout history. Look at Iraq. Have most Iraqis chosen to die rather than fight for their country? No. Most occupations and annexations have resulted in the vast majority of the people choosing to live under occupation or changing their affiliation. You may in the minority, or it may be easy to say, or it may make people feel good writing it on a message board, but the simple fact is that most people would rather live. That is borne out as a fact of history, even when the occupying force is radically different than the local population.

Besides, there is a difference between subjugation and willful volition. In the context in which the assertion was made, there have been literally millions of Canadians who have moved south of the border since Canada has become a country, yet the number of times the US has invaded and occupied Canada during that time is exactly zero. When the question is phrased to Canadians whether or not they would "become Americans," the practical experience has been Canadians willfully becoming US citizens, not the US forcing Canadians to become such, despite the immature undercurrent in Canadian culture where the threat of America looms large.
 
eh1eh
#82
Wow. You just don't see such a dog's breakfast of poll results like this one. Guess we all have different ways of loving our countries.
 
triedit
#83
You can't make an ilk purse out of a sow's ear.
Ilk--it does a body good.
Got ilk?
 
Curiosity
#84
Triedit

LOL!
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#85
Have Ilk
Will travel
Last edited by Dreadful Nonsense; Sep 9th, 2007 at 10:27 AM..Reason: hate when i ruin a lol with wrong word specially in a four word lol
 
#juan
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Wow. You just don't see such a dog's breakfast of poll results like this one. Guess we all have different ways of loving our countries.

The poll was a dog's breakfast before anyone voted. The options were hopelessly skewed to favour the pollster's point of view.
 
eh1eh
#87
"ilk, don't leave home without it"

Hey you guys opened the cheese.
 
I think not
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

The poll was a dog's breakfast before anyone voted. The options were hopelessly skewed to favour the pollster's point of view.

And yet, it still recieved 20 votes. Go figure.
 
lone wolf
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

The poll was a dog's breakfast before anyone voted. The options were hopelessly skewed to favour the pollster's point of view.

Sort of like those dime slot toilet-stall doors - and a close-to-cloth emergency....

Wolf
 
eh1eh
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

The poll was a dog's breakfast before anyone voted. The options were hopelessly skewed to favour the pollster's point of view.

I thought it was pretty split up.
 

Similar Threads

27
Trojan viruses on CanCon?
by EagleSmack | Sep 6th, 2009
20
The Inmates Here at CanCon
by Curiosity | Sep 14th, 2007
11
no new posts