Have/will you change(d)?


Impetus
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by SwitSofView Post

IdRatherBeSkiing?
Actually sounds like my brother

Zan, if it's true that MANY Cannuck blokes can do their way around the kitchen or even just as simple as vacuum and dishes, I'd move in a heartbeat! Am having cold war with my flatmate cause he's exploiting the girls in the house to do the cleaning

maybe canadian men need to learn from their Irish brothers!

way ta go, Seamus!
 
Unforgiven
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by trieditView Post

Sorry. My sense of humor is lacking. I just discovered that I hurt a friend and can't fix it.

Traditionaly there has always been a huge difference between "can't" and "won't".
 
triedit
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Traditionaly there has always been a huge difference between "can't" and "won't".

a) this doesnt concern you
b) this is not the thread to discuss this in
c) apologies have been made. I can't take back hurt.
d) for a thread about how people change you sure are a one trick pony.
e)if you'd like to fight this out privately Im up for that but lets not turn this forum into the grapevine with our petty nastiness.
 
SwitSof
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by trieditView Post

b) this is not the thread to discuss this in
e)if you'd like to fight this out privately Im up for that but lets not turn this forum into the grapevine with our petty nastiness.

I personally don't see the harm to have an off topic post from time to time as long as it doesn't go too far, well I do that too in threads I started or others too anyway.
But yeah, if you two are going to talk or even argue about this further, it's better to keep it private between you 2, especially seems there is some personal info that obviously triedit wouldn't or even shouldn't disclose since an incoming legal battle is involved.

Quote: Originally Posted by triedit

a) this doesnt concern you

Hmm this sentence reminds me what I just did that I usually didn't do at least not when I was in Asia.
I was telling my colleagues my short travel plan to France since some weeks before my departure date and a colleague annoyed me by first asked the same question again as why France, doh(!); second, by being rude as to dare throw my stress ball from my desk to me who was checking my small suitcase I put in the office when he was asking!
So I just said firmly,"It's none of your business!"
The funny thing is he was the one who got offended(!) and didn't talk to me for about 2 weeks.
Well, I don't reckon I was the wronged here, plus it's actually nice not to have to hear him telling his bad jokes to me So it was a peaceful 2 weeks.

But in Japan, people are so polite as it has the culture where you have the mindset you shouldn't trouble people and be polite no matter what. So yeah in Japan, I wouldn't say anything like that even though it's true it's nobody's business.
I think I changed after noticing that well some people don't even have the common sense to figure out what good manners are so recently I react in the same way how the other person acts to others.
 
Unforgiven
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by trieditView Post

a) this doesnt concern you
b) this is not the thread to discuss this in
c) apologies have been made. I can't take back hurt.
d) for a thread about how people change you sure are a one trick pony.
e)if you'd like to fight this out privately Im up for that but lets not turn this forum into the grapevine with our petty nastiness.

Who says so, you? heh heh
A thread is a thread is a thread. Where they go, nobody knows.
I don't find you or Dave very sincere about this whole apology business. But aside from that, there is a difference between saying sorry and making amends. Maybe you needed a real friend long ago to teach you that. But then there is that whole thing about sabotaging things before they develop so that you won't get hurt later, right.
I don't think that I'll ever change in that I'm direct and upfront about somethings. I can't think of a thing wrong with that.

I don't think there is anything to fight our Robin. I'm good with all of it. That you feel you had to announce how terrible you feel about the hurtful things you've chosen to do doesn't change any of it. You can put your fingers in your ears and hum all you like but that's always going to be there.

You removed my ability to post on your board to save Dave any criticism and that's fine, it's your world over there, I'll leave you to it. But you can't have things both ways. Not to mention that it's about all of us, not just Robin.

I don't think you're a bad person, and there are things about you that I like, but you, like everyone, have things to learn. One of them seems to be loyalty in friendship. And if I didn't like you, I wouldn't tell you.
 
Walter
#36
The only guarantee we have while we're alive is that things will change. A good education will allow you to survive the changes in a positive way. Education never stops but it is up to you to make sure it is a good one.
 
jimmoyer
#37
He said when people are lectured to change, they most likely would resent.
But it is more effective to make or to expect people to change if you give a good example of the other alternative (what the change should lead to). Cause then it'd motivate people to change from their inner self.

Have you changed or will you change, you reckon? I suppose personality-wise, habits or ways, principles, values, the core stuff.
If you have or you will, what did or will cause this?

----------------------------------Poster who began this thread---------------------------------------------------

I'd like to return this thread to the original point.

Tommorrow will be 11 months since I quit smoking. Tambien, estoy estudiante de espanol. Also changed my diet to at least 5 softball quantities of fruit per day and vegetables, looking each month for one new mystery fruit to check out. Also excercise. I've always swum alot, but now regularly swim a mile a day with weight excercises alternating every other day.

It's hard to make many changes at once, but this combination of changes tends to feed on the success of each of the other changes. Eating well gives you better energy. Excercise gives you that buzz cigarettes used to give. And finally I really work at discipline of getting more sleep, having had a habit of shortchanging sleep, burning the candle at both ends.

Anyway, it's still a mystery to me why I went so long with bad habits and what that magical moment of change was. I do not ascribe it to will power at all. Hypnosis carried me over the initial hump.

But that combination of events that lead you to change almost seems as accidental as watching the French Open where just one point can change the direction of the match.

Logic is always secondary to this process.

In fact we only use logic after the fact to falsely explain the original impulse.
 
SwitSof
#38
Quote: Originally Posted by ImpetusView Post

maybe canadian men need to learn from their Irish brothers!

way ta go, Seamus!

Well actually no.
The majority will win inside the house I'm living in.
2 girls against 1 lazy Irish lad.

I don't get what is wrong with you lazy men.
Nowadays we, women work too.
Plus, not all women enjoy cooking and cleaning and not all women are neat, so this assumption that women would be so neat and like cooking etc. is outdated in places where both genders work as hard, actually for some careers, women have to work harder to prove themselves.
About the neat part, it's just common sense to live in a clean place at least and that needs some work which goes for both genders too.
Am not a hard-core feminist actually, but some things have changed in case you haven't noticed...
 
SwitSof
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

I don't find you or Dave very sincere about this whole apology business.
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I don't think there is anything to fight our Robin.
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You removed my ability to post on your board to save Dave any criticism and that's fine, it's your world over there, I'll leave you to it. But you can't have things both ways. Not to mention that it's about all of us, not just Robin.

You guys must have some history before.
 
Unforgiven
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by SwitSofView Post

You guys must have some history before.

Yup spanning years and thousands of messages.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Yup spanning years and thousands of messages.

Yes. Plenty of baggage. We seem to have brought here some carry-on luggage.
 
Unforgiven
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Yes. Plenty of baggage. We seem to have brought here some carry-on luggage.

Yeah well some of us were and still are targetted far more than others. And it's your pal that came here and started posting under one of my old monickers for no other reason than to continue things here. Your buddy not mine.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Yeah well some of us were and still are targetted far more than others. And it's your pal that came here and started posting under one of my old monickers for no other reason than to continue things here. Your buddy not mine.

I never suggested he had to be your buddy. I strongly believe that we should leave the old **** out of here. And perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen anything on here (aside from the monicer) lately which targetted you.

I also do not believe it is possible here to change monikers once assigned.

And yes, if by my buddy you mean poster whom I enjoy, then sure. I like him here. Is that a problem?
 
triedit
#44
I just don't think bringing old ****e to this new home serves any good. I'd be happy to discuss this privately or even on the vine if you like, but we all came here (I thought) for a fresh start on neutral ground. I won't be party to turning this place into anothe bickerfest.

And I booted you for posting a direct quote from someone without permission on another forum. Im certain that if you posted something from my site here without permission the mods would have an issue with that as well. It's called copyright. And you knew I would react that way because I had been down that road with JoeSchmoe over the same issue.

I don't need to protect Dave. He's a big boy and he has earned much of what he gets. i do think it's inappropriate for you to poison this forum with stuff from the vine you can't get over--and maybe shouldnt get over.

I have no intention of apologizing to you for anything. I havent done anything to you. I didnt encourage Dave to post the really bad stuff, I only thought the fiction about him wanting you to be his daddy was funny. I have apologized to Muz. That is between he and I--you don't get to rule there.

There is nothing Dave will ever be able to do or say to make up for the damage he has done. He knows that. So why further this? Ignore him and move on. The rest of us are trying to renew and settle down and maybe heal a little. You don't seem interested in that. In my opinion, that is not Dave's fault or mine or anyone but yours.

I never asked you to like him or accept an apology from him. That's not my business. Like I said before, if you choose your friends based on who they choose as friends that is your right. I don't work that way. I choose my friendships based on what the person brings to me and what I can bring into thier life.
 
Unforgiven
#45
Some people just refuse to get it.
No skin off my ***.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Yeah well some of us were and still are targetted far more than others. And it's your pal that came here and started posting under one of my old monickers for no other reason than to continue things here. Your buddy not mine.


For the record yours for a short time was mr.dr.dred
As stated I have been doc dred on now defunct ezboard forums ,beatle related.

And yes i liked the idea of the pirate flag you put as an avatar....so sue me for useing an idea of yours for an old moniker of mine.It works nice. did i come in as Humptydo or some other slam..no I was trapped in yer quagmire of hate for like 3 days....done did that lets move on.

I still go by the name of doc on my msn and yahoo messenger by old friends...

This lil hate fest hissy fit is getting real boreing fast unfydo.It will spread across the forum, which was rocking with fun fun fun untill this weekend hate fest after you posting some other persons hate mail.

You ,in my opinion were one of the biggest s#$% disturbers back in the day. you were banned more than once for it. Banned dude...so what does that make you...look at your weekend here...it's all about hate....

you got Swiftsoft sorry for mispeeliong your name, confused already, newbs are being told they are me.....i mean what really is your agenda here dude....
done
carry on
DD

wooops i was DR.Who as a moniker but became known as doc dred...sorry it's been awhile
Last edited by Dreadful Nonsense; Jun 11th, 2007 at 12:28 PM..Reason: doc dred birth for moi
 
triedit
#47
You don't owe anyone an explaination. Just keep doing like you've been doing. This thread is about change and from what i see you are accomplishing that. Sure, Im biased, but the evidence is there. You're doing fine. Don't let the old garbage get to you.
 
DaSleeper
#48
Humbug
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by trieditView Post

You don't owe anyone an explaination. Just keep doing like you've been doing. This thread is about change and from what i see you are accomplishing that. Sure, Im biased, but the evidence is there. You're doing fine. Don't let the old garbage get to you.

thanks Robin.
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Unforgiven
#50
Liar.

Quote: Originally Posted by DocDredView Post

For the record yours for a short time was mr.dr.dred
As stated I have been doc dred on now defunct ezboard forums ,beatle related.

And yes i liked the idea of the pirate flag you put as an avatar....so sue me for useing an idea of yours for an old moniker of mine.It works nice. did i come in as Humptydo or some other slam..no I was trapped in yer quagmire of hate for like 3 days....done did that lets move on.

I still go by the name of doc on my msn and yahoo messenger by old friends...

This lil hate fest hissy fit is getting real boreing fast unfydo.It will spread across the forum, which was rocking with fun fun fun untill this weekend hate fest after you posting some other persons hate mail.

You ,in my opinion were one of the biggest s#$% disturbers back in the day. you were banned more than once for it. Banned dude...so what does that make you...look at your weekend here...it's all about hate....

you got Swiftsoft sorry for mispeeliong your name, confused already, newbs are being told they are me.....i mean what really is your agenda here dude....
done
carry on
DD

wooops i was DR.Who as a moniker but became known as doc dred...sorry it's been awhile

 
Unforgiven
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Humbug

Yo Das, it isn't even worth it.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Liar.

I thought you had him on Ignore?
 
Unforgiven
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

I thought you had him on Ignore?

What do you think now?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

What do you think now?

I think this is getting old.
 
Billy
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

I think this is getting old.

and yet you keep faithfully tuning in.
 
Pangloss
#56
I think the inter-poster fighting should get it's own damn thread. This is boring threadjacking that only concerns a few people and it spoils other discussions.

I'm not posting from anger, I just want to be blunt so there is no misunderstanding what I mean.

Sorry if I have given offense.

Pangloss
 
GenGap
#57
Life is a summary of experiences, we take from the good and learn from the bad.

In some cases those who refuse to change, may have nothing to change or are ignorant. I spend alot of volunteering working with people on committees. I refuse to sit on a committee because the people on the committee refuse to do the correct things and are closed minded. So I give them the control to learn and make fool of themselves while I just volunteer to make a difference and have little confrontation.

I used to try to educate them, with an open mind to their opinions and they refused to be open to mine. So as a result expenses are 30% above what they are suppose to be for the organization and we have to keep going back and fixing projects that the organization did.

I just volunteer to make a difference for the better, hence I have learned
the hard-way that those who resist change like to inflict terror on others.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

Liar.

*hands gasoline to unfydo for his hate flamefest*"by all means enjoy"


do you remember this avatar I used in the vine like 3 years ago




It was my avatar. I actually talked about the other forums and beatle stuff and my dr.Who stuff in other forums....I became known as doc dred cause of a few off the wall posts....someone said it's more like doc dred then Dr.Who.
doc was what peeps called me.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#59
I just realized I hadn't yet responed to the original poster.

I think everybody changes everyday. Every experience you have changes you in some small way. Bigger things change you more. But one cannot do anything without changing themselves. Whether they admit the change or not is another story.
 
SwitSof
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyerView Post

I'd like to return this thread to the original point.

Cheers ears!

Quote:

Tommorrow will be 11 months since I quit smoking.

Bravo!
Actually since my dad died young cause of heart attack, but he didn't lead a healthy life. He smoked like a chimney more than 1 packs a day - heavy cigs with heaps of tar too(!), he ate meat heaps while he had high cholestrol, and he didn't exercise. My brother was tempted so many times by his friends to try to smoke, but he wouldn't, knowing being a heavy smoker was one of the things that led our dad to meet his maker early.
I don't reckon it's something neither me nor my brother will ever change our heart on. To try to smoke that is.

Quote:

Tambien, estoy estudiante de espanol.

I know 3 languages already and now j'Útudie le franšais
Good on ya.

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I do not ascribe it to will power at all. Hypnosis carried me over the initial hump.

How were you hypnotised? This is very interesting!

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In fact we only use logic after the fact to falsely explain the original impulse.

That and maybe also with willing power.
 

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