Day Light Saving time


temperance
#1
Really what will it do ??

and why do people call it Day light "savings" time what a play on words --its "saving "

Ithink it will enable people to shop more after work ,help retail once again ,I dont see how that will save our plant or energy when we hop in our cars to go shop --lol




US Representative Edward J. Markey says he has devised a way to combat crime, economic stagnation, car crashes, and the winter blahs, all while saving energy and costing taxpayers nothing.






Next Sunday , Americans will simply move their clocks ahead one hour, three weeks earlier than normal, under a law Markey pushed through Congress that moves daylight saving time for the first time since 1986.
Markey says his first concern is saving energy. But the congressman, who wakes to an alarm clock at 7 a.m., sounds like a Bible salesman when he talks about the benefits of giving every man, woman, and child an extra hour of sunlight in the evenings.
"Daylight saving time just brings a smile to everybody's faces," the Malden Democrat said last week. "When it's daylight and people are going home at night, they feel better, and as the ad says, that's priceless; it's impossible to put a value on it."
But in a nation where nearly everyone runs on a tight schedule, and mornings are often the only time people have to themselves before the demands of life kick in, the slight change feels more like a sharp jolt for many early risers.
 
eh1eh
#2
Last I heard they did it for the cows. You know they need to be milked on time. But with the invetion of the electric light I don't see the point at all. The energy saving is BS because if the sun is not steaming in your window then you will put the lights on anyway.
 
Tonington
#3
Wouldn't it just change the time of day you're using that power, like instead of in the p.m, now in the a.m? Personaly I like the light in the evening, but I hate the freaking time change.
 
eh1eh
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Wouldn't it just change the time of day you're using that power, like instead of in the p.m, now in the a.m? Personaly I like the light in the evening, but I hate the freaking time change.

Yep. There are only so many hours of light a day. Dark, people put on lights. With shift work and our 24-7 society, I can't see where the saving are.?
 
hermanntrude
#5
I only found out we're doing it this weekend today. In the UK for some reason we're waiting till the weekend after the equinox. I looked it all up and apparently u guys used to wait till the first sunday in april and now u moved it back to the second sunday in march. For two weeks i'll only have a 6 hour time difference from home. I agree DST is a little crazy but it does help me get up in the mornings
 
jjaycee98
#6
my Birthday is May and I think I am just a summer person. I wake up at 6 all through summer and at 5 all through winter! I enjoy the evenings in the summer but winter bed time comes early.
 
L Gilbert
#7
Time change is absurd. I keep emailing BC gov't about it twice a year. They put up a page at their website about suggestions on saving money. I never get an answer and apparently we'll continue to change the time twice a year. I wonder how much money the gov't wastes on it considering every provincial building has maintenance staff toting ladders around changing clocks twice a year. Makes me think could run things better.
 
Dexter Sinister
#8
Well now, being in a place that doesn't flip its clocks forward and back twice a year... Good thing too. I counted today, and what with stoves, microwaves, DVD players, video cassette players, radios, and computers, not to mention actual single-purpose timepieces like wall clocks and watches, I learned there are 23 clocks in my house. Only four of them need to be reset after a power outage, the others are all battery driven or have battery backup that'll keep time for days without power. Having to reset all of them every spring and fall is probably the best single argument against DST that I can think of.

This issue has all the features of a religious argument: passionately held positions, no data. The usual arguments in favour of it are longer summer evenings--usually for kids' sporting events--and lowered energy consumption. There may be some merit to the former, but I've never seen a convincing and thorough case for the latter. It's easy to show reduced electricity consumption of a few percent during DST, which reflects reduced demand for lighting, but that doesn't cover all energy use. Maybe people also drive around more on longer evenings. Actually, every argument I've ever seen works just as well as an argument in favour of putting our clocks an hour forward once and leaving them there. It needs a thorough comparative study of places that do and don't spring forward and fall back, over several years, by a really first rate statistician, to demonstrate how, or even if, the overall patterns of energy consumption really are affected. I've never seen one, and I've looked hard. Not lately, I admit, maybe there really is proof now. Anyone know? Got a link?
 
TenPenny
#9
In the early days, the idea of dst made some sense, in that the hours of the day were adjusted to be more in line with daylight. Now, however, the idea is floated that it somehow saves energy - but tell me, do any offices adjust the number of lights they turn on? No, it's all or nothing. I doubt there is any energy savings any more, even though that's the bizarre argument floated.

Incidentally, the comment above about cows is actually the opposite - animals like cows do not adjust to dst, and that's why Saskatchewan didn't use dst. Since the economy was agricultural, there was little reason to change the clocks.
 
#juan
#10
Hold on now. I don't know if I have twenty three clocks like Dexter but I'm sure it's close. For the sake of argument, let's say it takes me an average of two and a half minutes to "correct each timepiece. Two and a half times twenty three is 57 minutes....let's just say an hour. That is an hour when I could have been doing something useful. If in Canada there are ten million clock changers, that is ten million man hours a year that could be used to do all sorts of things. GM tells us that the average car takes approximately 33 man hours to build. Let me see. That's about 30, 000 cars that could have been built, but weren't. Stick that in your pipe Mr. Markay...
 
hermanntrude
#11
Will computers know that the change is on a different day?
 
eh1eh
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrudeView Post

Will computers know that the change is on a different day?

I know my computer syncs with the microsft time site. It's in your settings, I'll look it up.
 
eh1eh
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrudeView Post

Will computers know that the change is on a different day?

Control panel, date and time, then internet time tab.
I really haven't heard what PC's will be doing. Probably just have to do it manually.
Last edited by eh1eh; Mar 10th, 2007 at 09:21 PM..Reason: sp
 
L Gilbert
#14
Betcha the early time change has more to do with being PC and in tune with the Americans than it does with saving anything.
 
snowles
#15
My town does not change time; it is ridiculously and needlessly complicated (weirdly fitting for a town of simpletons), especially since the time zone changing line is about 100 km east from the town. So half the year we follow it, and half the year we don't, and just have the same time as Thunder Bay. On top of that, when we do have the same time as Thunder Bay, there is an aribtrary line where the time zone changes between Atikokan and Fort Frances that no one has ever been able to define.

So the time doesn't change, but the times things are on TV does, and only those in certain time zones. Complicated, eh?
 
Tonington
#16
On the news they said we're changing our clocks now to keep in sync with the Americans. I've also seen some stuff about computer problems, kinda reminded me of the Y2K crap.
 
unclepercy
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

On the news they said we're changing our clocks now to keep in sync with the Americans. I've also seen some stuff about computer problems, kinda reminded me of the Y2K crap.

I hate Daylight Savings because I live in one of the hottest states in the USA - Texas. DLS makes it hot longer in the daytime for us. It is still 100 degrees at 10:00 pm. Having longer heat is NO plus to us. In fact, that's why Phoenix refuses to go along with it. I think Texas goes along with it so that we can be on the same schedule as everyone else. To be off an hour would confuse everyone's travel, for sure.

Uncle
 
Dexter Sinister
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrudeView Post

Will computers know that the change is on a different day?

If you run Windows Update regularly, and you've got Win2K or later I think, yes, you'll have received a patch that takes care of it for Windows systems. For anything other than Windows, I don't know. But I think the system clock is the system clock, for all systems. Mine is a dual boot Windows XP and Linux system, and when I adjust the time in Windows, Linux shows the same time. I don't know that there's any auto adjustment for DST within LInux itself, where I live in Saskatchewan it's a don't care issue so I've never investigated it. I know you can set both systems to synchronize with an Internet time server, but it's of no concern to me if my computer's system clock is off by a few minutes, so I've never bothered with that either.
Last edited by Dexter Sinister; Mar 10th, 2007 at 11:09 PM..
 
karrie
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Time change is absurd. I keep emailing BC gov't about it twice a year. They put up a page at their website about suggestions on saving money. I never get an answer and apparently we'll continue to change the time twice a year. I wonder how much money the gov't wastes on it considering every provincial building has maintenance staff toting ladders around changing clocks twice a year. Makes me think could run things better.

What really cracks me up Gilbert, is that i live in BC, and don't change time.
 
talloola
#20
My husband and I are happy with the change of time, brings on the longer evenings sooner, and
makes the summer seem longer. I don't get up early, (usually 8-8:30), but I love to stay up late,
and be out late in the summer, work in my yard longer, walk on the beach later, golf later, all the
"really important" things in life. We are retired, and like to be out and about, not shut in the house
cause it's dark.
 
L Gilbert
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

What really cracks me up Gilbert, is that i live in BC, and don't change time.

The other side of Kootenay Lake doesn't change times either. You must be just about directly north of me. (Looking out front room window to see if I can see you)

I don't mind being out in the dark. Wife and out sit out there watching bats and gabbing in the summer.
 
talloola
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

The other side of Kootenay Lake doesn't change times either. You must be just about directly north of me. (Looking out front room window to see if I can see you)

I don't mind being out in the dark. Wife and out sit out there watching bats and gabbing in the summer.

Oh, oh, nevermind, I see it OK now, I though you said "grabbing". lol
changes the whole scenario.
 
L Gilbert
#23
lmao
lotsa cuddling but no grabbing. lol
 
westmanguy
#24
Well:

Bell ExpressVu got it right.. my satellite tv firmware upgrade on my receivers worked right.

Windows got it right, with the patch I got a few weeks ago.

AND, Rogers Wireless got it right on my cell phone.

So overall, NO ELECTRONIC ERRORS!
 
DurkaDurka
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguyView Post

Well:

Bell ExpressVu got it right.. my satellite tv firmware upgrade on my receivers worked right.

Windows got it right, with the patch I got a few weeks ago.

AND, Rogers Wireless got it right on my cell phone.

So overall, NO ELECTRONIC ERRORS!

We had to do a lot of testing to do to ensure that DST worked correctly for all the ExpressVu receivers, glad it's done with now.
 
darkbeaver
#26
What time is it?
 
westmanguy
#27
OMG... DurkaDurka you work for ExpressVu? If so I got to get in some PMs with you for questions I got!
 
JLM
#28
Well, that's it for another year. Guess all this presidential hype (and bullsh*t) has put this on the 'back burner'.
 
tay
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

What time is it?



It's the same time, or an hour earlier..........




 
SLM
+2
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

It's the same time, or an hour earlier..........




It's about damn time someone answered that question. Geez he only asked 4 and half years ago.
 

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