Kinda curious as to what people would say in favor of big gov't considering the conversation going on in the libertarianism=anarchy thread.
That's a hard question to answer Gilbert, but here goes, big and scocialist and military, with Harpers help this will happen.You know who is going to suck us dry if we don't. I know you think I'm kidding but that's the way the world is turning.:wave:
You are dreaming... Is Jack Layton and his moustache going to lead you to socialist paradise?
Explain to me how employing a lot of people working for the gov't is good for the economy. Gov't employees pay income tax that is only regurgitated tax. They do not introduce new money into the system but they do take it out. Follow the money trail. Their money comes from gov't, gov't money comes from taxes and the like, gov't employees give a small portion of it back plus some compensation in the form of work, and round and round it goes.To be honest, EVERY way of doing things has it's pluses and minuses. There are pluses to big government....like more jobs for people in the government, which is good for the economy overall...but there are also bad aspects. I think every country has to strike it's own balance, what works for it...and that usually means incorporating ideas from a variety of isms.
When does a gov't decide that people's personal lives are not "issues of the day" for it to make decisions on? When does it decide that it should pay no more for a service or a good than Joe Lunchbucket pays? When does it decide after 2 or 3 years of hashing out a problem that the problem may have changed and the solution it was working on wouldn't be applicable? When does it decide that retirement packages for its employees and politicians should be more in line with the private packages? ( Last I heard, after 6 measly years of sitting in the gov't side of the HoC a politician can retire with about $80,000 per year pension for the rest of its life).It depends on what you mean by big government. If you mean large bureaucracies for their own sake then the answer would be "of course not". If you mean a government that takes a justifiably active and effective role in addressing the issues of the day then the answer would likely be different. Either way the question barks up the wrong tree. A good planner need be aware of discernable restraints, but doesn't determine the size of a building and then decide what to do with it.
It depends on what you mean by big government. If you mean large bureaucracies for their own sake then the answer would be "of course not". If you mean a government that takes a justifiably active and effective role in addressing the issues of the day then the answer would likely be different. Either way the question barks up the wrong tree. A good planner need be aware of discernable restraints, but doesn't determine the size of a building and then decide what to do with it.
So when is big government justifiable and when is it big enough that there is very little need for it to have concern for its actions?