You've insulted me.
Therefore by a law of averages you have likely insulted at least a couple thousand Soldiers and Vets.
As an ex Soldier, I can assure you a very good part of my time was spent in training to do just such tasks.
And it was my pleasure to train hard and do my duty to make sure if your neighbourhood was the victim of some natural dissaster, I would be able to, just like the brave men and women you scorn today, come to your rescue.
But if you feel so passionately that your position is that much more important, please feel free to decline our services on your roof top, or in your basement. That is your right.
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Soldiers, weather you agree witht he Mission or not, do a duty for the world, and are. Regardless of your belif, they are doing Good for Afganistan. Since when did helping make a country against some heavy odds a democratic and free nation become wrong....Now I guess you could be a bush basher...But this is a UN Mandate, which Canada under NATO is serving. The UN...Need I say more?
Soldiers are making it possible for their to be reconstruction, and tokeep as many people as they can safe...now they cant keep evryone safe, but I asure you its much safer than the all out Civil war that would take place if we left. If we didnt go in, in the first place it would still be a terrorist stronghold...you cant argue that it wouldnt be. Canada is building schools, and protecting villiages. If you havent noticed Kandahar has been pretty quite lately, since Canada got in there....and already big bissness from world corperations are begining to invest. Thats not good? Please...
Soldiers takepart in many good things, Peacekeeping, and defence of national and world Interest....and Occasionaly offense when needed...theyput their lives on the line...which in itself is a selfless act.
If you dont have respect for the mission, atleast respect the men who work it.
Soldiers do a job, a job in which in Canada, thankfully, they have chosen, and not been forced into.
And they earn respect and thanks according to their actions in their job, not just for the fact that they are a soldier. I have never said that soldiers dont help in true peacekeeping and service to the community.
They are not the only people who choose to do dangerous life threatening jobs.
They are not the only people who choose to do jobs that may require decisions in the heat of the moment that may be the wrong decisions.
They are not the only people in jobs where they may have to face the decision of going against an order that they think is morally wrong.
And just as we are thankful that people have chosen to be firemen, policemen, construction workers, janitors, doctors or lawyers, we are thankful that people have chosen to be soldiers.
But, just as we judge the actions of firemen, policemen, construction workers, janitors, doctors or lawyers, we judge the actions of soldiers. Because doing a dangerous job, or a difficult job, or a morally debatable job does not give one the right to do whatever we want. All jobs are answerable to the public.
In Canada, we have a democracy, and that means we may speak out against actions committed by public or private servants. In speaking out, we are not insulting the job, we are voicing our moral judgements on the actions of the employee.
fuzzylogix: you, too, can answer my questions. I'd be very interested.
Fuzzy wrote: And Canada and the US will find out as did England and the USSR previously that it is not easy to come in and control another country. While you may do some good somewhere such as building a school or homes, the reality is that you create such an unstable society that the population ends up with a civil war and the people resent your intrusion and disruption of their lives.
We are not controlling another country Fuzzy we were asked to be there, also Afghanistan's people repeatedly ask us to stay. Canada's role is fluid and evolving now it appears we are helping the two warring fractions decide where this country will go politically. If the Afghanies want us to leave Canada would, however it's the Peaceniks that want us to leave not the Afghanie people.
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1.why are we not addressing the fact that the 60% of the current Afghani legislative body that we are collaborating with and setting up as the future of the country consist of corrupt individuals allied to warlords and militia that have as bad human rights records as the Taliban. Canada states that it is fighting to get rid of the Taliban, but the government it is helping instate is no better. Abuses against women continue in the country.
2. why are we not helping the economy which has crashed since ousting of the Taliban. The Taliban had managed to rid the country of its drug production, but since the Taliban was ousted and the war started the country's main economic source is again opium and heroin. And where the British have gone in and destroyed fields of poppies, farmers who lost their incomes have had to sell their daughters to the druglords. Many of the current legislative body are druglords.
3. why are we not ensuring that when an individual is captured and handed over to the Afghani authority that the individual is not tortured. Why are you not given accurate figures of civilian death?
The fact is, there ARE ulterior motives in Afghanistan. A US study done by the US Trade and Development over the past four years has assessed that the oil and gas reserves in Northern Afghanistan are up to 18 times more than originally thought.
I was going to post a couple links to sites that have info posted right from the Soldiers in Afghanistan, as well as reporting from Afghanistan on the agricultural investment by both the Canadian Government with field support of the Troops. Plus the kudos we keep getting for those efforts, but then I realized, there was no point.
You are a bigot and nothing I waste my time posting is going to change your mind or soften your view of my brothers, sisters and friends in Afghanistan. I hope one day you see the error in you views and change yourself. Because you are missing so much of life because of it.
Quite the opposite.
I care about ALL sides in a war, not just the side that happens to be Canadian.
This is not bigoted towards our troops. That is rubbish.
I care about our armed forces. I care that they come home alive. I care that they arent put in harms way without a good reason. And I care that they do work that is constructive and not destructive.
You asked me to quote some sources to back up my statements and I have. I guess now you have to resort to calling me names as your rebuttal.