Okay this could be offensive to some.


Sassylassie
#1
Heres my problem, white bread verses whole wheat bread/multi-grained breads. I love white bread but it is nutritionaly void, it has no positive qualities. Whole Wheat bread is good for you but taste awful, and that god awful stuff called multi-grain now that stuff is just nasty. What is a girl to do?
 
the caracal kid
#2
spelt and kamut flatbreads might interest you. As they say, its all a matter of taste.
 
Kreskin
#3
They all look pretty good when you throw rye bread into the list.
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#4
Definitely try different brands of whole wheat and multigrain breads, they differ a great deal in taste. I always make sure that whole wheat flour is the first ingredient, though, NOT unbleached flour (unless I am being wicked and enjoying my occasional favourite fried egg sandwich ).

A good loaf of whole wheat loaf should have so much flavour that it is enjoyable on its own, no topping at all, there's an underlying sweet nutty taste that is to die for.

Just keep trying, the good loaves are out there. The ones that have less flavour (in order to use them up before trying the next brand) are better if toasted and spread with unsalted butter.

Yum. I luff whole wheat bread!

<edited to add: SNEAKY subject line, Sassy!)
 
the caracal kid
#5
forgot to mention, we have some great bread selections from our delivery service.
here is a link directly to the breads, if it does not work use the second link. you can then scout around for similar breads in your area.
www.spud.ca/catalogue/catalog...ID%20eq%204%29 (external - login to view)
www.spud.ca (external - login to view)
 
Colpy
#6
What the hell.

I have never paid any attention to the whole health/food thing. I am basically a carnivore, I love greasy burgers, steak, butter, cream, milk, chocolate, etc.

I bet I live to my mid-eighties, as that is the age my father, grandfather, and great grandfather all died.

Mind you, at 5'11" and 240 lbs I need to lose some weight.
 
#juan
#7
We got ourselves a breadmaker a while back and I got some recipes from a friend. The bread we make is phenomenal. We haven't had a bad loaf yet. The breadmaker was the best $125 I ever spent. You can set it up in the evening and have fresh, warm, bread in the morning when you get up. I like to experiment, add a bit of this, a bit of that, and I've had good results so far.
 
the caracal kid
#8
juan,

i have often thought of making my own breads, but breadmakers would not work for me as i only eat unleavened breads (when i do eat breads that is)
 
#juan
#9
caracal

Pardon my ignorance. What does "unleavened" mean to you? Is it just the lack of yeast? There are several Irish soda breads that are without yeast, or is soda considered a leavening agent?
 
the caracal kid
#10
unleavened bread is bread that has no agents that cause it to "rise" or fill with air bubbles.
 
FiveParadox
#11
Would Indian roti be deemed to be unleaved, then? I love roti.
 
the caracal kid
#12
yes, roti is unleavened.
 
FiveParadox
#13
That's awesome! It's good stuff, too.

Since I recently had to turn vegetarian, I am thinking about entirely overhauling my diet (not just stop eating meat). Any suggestions?
 
the caracal kid
#14
eliminate dairy and eggs.
- eat plenty of greens.
- eat raw nuts (if not allergic - almonds, walnuts)
- go as close to the natural source as you can. ex fresh ground flax seeds for omega 3
- if you use oil, use cold pressed olive oil
- eat superfoods such as chlorella, spirulina
- eat what you need, not more
- eliminate all sugars, look up foods on the glycemic index chart and eat foods that maintain a constant blood sugar (avoid sugar spikes)
- eat as alkalyne as you can (look up alkalyne/ acid reducing foods)
- eat higher glycemic foods after workouts or during longer intensity workouts to maintain blood sugar levels.
- eliminate all sulphides, preservatives, artificial colours, caffiene, pop, chocolate, tap water alcohol, coffee, corn, corn starch, modern wheat, "puffed" foods like puffed rice like in rice cakes.
- do a proper cleanse
- if you like citrus fruits, stick with grapefruit over oranges or tangerines.
- ensure you get your efa's (if not from raw source use a good essential oil blend).

thats a start.

edit: learn what vitamins and minerals the plants provide and build your diet around ensuring you are getting what you need. However, note that what is in the plant is dependent on what is in the soil it grew in so there can be fluctuations. Eat organic if you can, especially plants that are more prone to absorbing pesticides if you don't eat entirely organic.
 
FiveParadox
#15
Thank you for the points, the caracal kid. Sounds like a very disciplined diet, though; I am not sure if, for example, I could give up Pepsi especially not cold turkey ... it sounds like you give up a lot of the good stuff can elaborate meals and stuff still be made with those kinds of "natural" products?
 
the caracal kid
#16
the meals can be as elaborate as you want them to be.

it may take a bit to adjust to changes in your palate though. North America has a "sweet tooth", for example.

edit: personal example:

I eat a fair bit of dulse. when I first ate it, it seemed foreign to me, but I found ways to work it into my diet because of what it offers and now I eat it plain as a snack - it melts in the mouth.

Here is a quick clip on what dulse offers:
Seaweeds are the richest source of absorbable minerals on the planet. The Purple Dulse Seaweed is 22% protein (dry weight) and is an excellent source of Vitamins A, C, E, and B-12 as well as calcium, iron, iodine, niacin, thiamin and trace minerals. It is low in sodium and high in potassium. The latest research describes that Purple Dulse Seaweed may help reverse hardening of the arteries, reduce high blood pressure, regress and prevent tumors, and even remove toxic metals from our bodies by transforming them into harmless salts (via a substance called alginic acid) that are easily eliminated
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#17
I love seaweed, it's one of my favourite snacks, I get the Japanese strips, yum yum.
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

I have never paid any attention to the whole health/food thing. I am basically a carnivore, I love greasy burgers, steak, butter, cream, milk, chocolate, etc.

I agree, actually. I don't eat health foods, I just happen to like a lot of foods that coincidentally are healthy. Purely accidental! I don't eat any meat except seafood, and love butter, cream and chocolate, yum.
 
darkbeaver
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

What the hell.

I have never paid any attention to the whole health/food thing. I am basically a carnivore, I love greasy burgers, steak, butter, cream, milk, chocolate, etc.

I bet I live to my mid-eighties, as that is the age my father, grandfather, and great grandfather all died.

Mind you, at 5'11" and 240 lbs I need to lose some weight.

This would account for your bizzare posts, there,s two of you useing the same brain.
 
zoofer
#20
Funny thing when I complained to London Drugs that they included iron in their over 50 one a day vits it was later removed. Iron causes heart attacks in senior men.
Then there was a recent article in Canada's newspaper where one should eat white bread half the time. Seems the folic acid added to the enriched flour in more beneficial than a all whole grains diet.
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by zoofer

Then there was a recent article in Canada's newspaper where one should eat white bread half the time. Seems the folic acid added to the enriched flour in more beneficial than a all whole grains diet.

!!!! Zoofer, you have just earned your keep around here. HELLO fried egg sandwiches on white bread.
 
darkbeaver
#22
The biggest killer of men over fifty is thier wives.
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

The biggest killer of men over fifty is thier wives.

Well, how the heck else can they collect the insurance??
 
Toro
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

The biggest killer of men over fifty is thier wives.

After they've caught them with their secretaries!
 
zoofer
#25
Yeah I didnt want to mention that aspect of it. I figured Haggis would not accept my hand in marriage lest she harden my arteries.
Quote:

Honey, stop nagging - you're killing me
Sharon Kirkey, CanWest News Service
Published: Friday, March 03, 2006

Couples who have heated arguments with each other are more likely to have health problems that those who do not, new research suggests.

A new study based on 150 healthy, older married couples found that women who are hostile toward their husbands during disagreements are more likely to have hardening of their coronary arteries.

For men, being controlling -- or being married to someone who is -- promotes atherosclerosis.

"It was intriguing that we could find a relationship between a six-minute behavioural snapshot of couples talking about an argument they have, and a silent but very serious condition in their coronary arteries," said researcher Tim Smith, a professor of psychology at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

"These were all people who were outwardly healthy, but some had advanced atherosclerosis."

Prof. Smith's team interviewed married couples, mostly in their early sixties, who had no history of cardiovascular disease. The couples were taken into the lab and videotaped as they discussed something -- money, in-laws, kids -- that they had had disagreements about in the past.

Researchers who watched the tapes coded every comment into categories.

The list of hostile and dominating statements, for instance, included phrases such as, "You can be so stupid sometimes" and "You're too negative all the time."

The warm and submissive list had statements like: "Oh, that's a good idea, let's do it."

Some couples were so hostile they were referred to marriage counsellors. (The graduate students noted that couples are far more likely to be nicer to each other in front of strangers than they are when they're home alone.)

Two days later, each couple had a CAT scan to check for calcification of the arteries that supply the heart muscle with blood. Plaque is a build-up of fat, calcium and other substances that, over time, can lead to narrowing of the arteries and an eventual heart attack.

The researchers found that the more hostile and unfriendly the women were during the six-minute discussions, especially if their husbands were, too, the more severe the hardening of their arteries.

However, their arterial health was not influenced by whether they or their husband acted in a controlling or dominating way.

Men, on the other hand, who were more dominant or controlling, or whose wives were, were more likely than other men to have more severe hardening of the arteries.

The researchers haven't proved a cause and effect, but the findings jibe with what the literature says about psychological sex differences in what people find stressful in their lives.

"All the literature suggests women would be more attuned to, and as a result more upset by, difficulties in friendliness versus hostility, or how well people are getting along," Prof. Smith said in an interview, adding men are more bothered by who is in charge.

None of the findings on the CAT scans was a medical emergency.

link but I added smilies
 
Toro
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by the caracal kid

the meals can be as elaborate as you want them to be.

it may take a bit to adjust to changes in your palate though. North America has a "sweet tooth", for example.

edit: personal example:

I eat a fair bit of dulse. when I first ate it, it seemed foreign to me, but I found ways to work it into my diet because of what it offers and now I eat it plain as a snack - it melts in the mouth.

Here is a quick clip on what dulse offers:
Seaweeds are the richest source of absorbable minerals on the planet. The Purple Dulse Seaweed is 22% protein (dry weight) and is an excellent source of Vitamins A, C, E, and B-12 as well as calcium, iron, iodine, niacin, thiamin and trace minerals. It is low in sodium and high in potassium. The latest research describes that Purple Dulse Seaweed may help reverse hardening of the arteries, reduce high blood pressure, regress and prevent tumors, and even remove toxic metals from our bodies by transforming them into harmless salts (via a substance called alginic acid) that are easily eliminated



I'll buy you a beer and a steak if you want...
 
the caracal kid
#27
more reason to transend the material.
 
darkbeaver
#28
I new there was a reason, thanks for pointing it out, I got divorced and cancelled my insurance.Fried egg sandwiches are a favorite of mine too, I make them with muti-grain bread and the little millionaires sardines plus cheddar cheeze, christ now I,am hungry and it,s to painfull to eat with this bloody tooth.
 
Haggis McBagpipe
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by zoofer

I figured Haggis would not accept my hand in marriage lest she harden my arteries.

It kind of comes down to a question of, "How much life insurance do you have, exactly?" (she said, sweetly)
 
zoofer
#30
Quite a bit actually. Well a bit. It is accidental insurance. I pay the company a consideration to secure the payment of the sum assured on the happening of the the contingency insured against.
There are two contingencies. One being consumed by a great white Australian shark. The other being smothered by the love of a strong Irish woman. As there are no great whites in my hot tub I am pretty safe there.
Thre are no strong Irish women in my hot tub either but that may change if I get any answers from my ads in the County Cork Times.
 
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