Looking for any kind of advice


Sharidon
#1
Well this is the situation my really close friend got arrested in mid-december for possession of Marijuana, now the police officers took away his cell phone and told him that it would be returned to him at his court date, Sooo fine we wait and then the court date comes and no cell phone. We receive the police report and theres no mention of them taking the cell phone from him.. and then we bring it up to his lawyers attention and he tries to get ahold of who he thinks took the phone away noone get's in contact with him, I just spent the last two days going from one police station to the next and nobody seems to be able to help us. Like it just fell off the face of the earth, the thing that frustrates me is that I can't do anything we tell our story to any officer we meet and we get nothing but attitude(it's like all they hear is arrested and Marijuana and they don't like ya!), I don't know what to do we're sick of paying for a phone that we don't have..... but I don't want to drop it because they had no right to take our phone from us. And if they can do it to us how many more people can they do it to.

If anyone out there has an opinion or solution I would really love to hear it..... Cause I don't know what to do anymore....
 
Sharidon
#2
Well this is the situation my really close friend got arrested in mid-december for possession of Marijuana, now the police officers took away his cell phone and told him that it would be returned to him at his court date, Sooo fine we wait and then the court date comes and no cell phone. We receive the police report and theres no mention of them taking the cell phone from him.. and then we bring it up to his lawyers attention and he tries to get ahold of who he thinks took the phone away noone get's in contact with him, I just spent the last two days going from one police station to the next and nobody seems to be able to help us. Like it just fell off the face of the earth, the thing that frustrates me is that I can't do anything we tell our story to any officer we meet and we get nothing but attitude(it's like all they hear is arrested and Marijuana and they don't like ya!), I don't know what to do we're sick of paying for a phone that we don't have..... but I don't want to drop it because they had no right to take our phone from us. And if they can do it to us how many more people can they do it to.

If anyone out there has an opinion or solution I would really love to hear it..... Cause I don't know what to do anymore....
 
Sharidon
#3
Well this is the situation my really close friend got arrested in mid-december for possession of Marijuana, now the police officers took away his cell phone and told him that it would be returned to him at his court date, Sooo fine we wait and then the court date comes and no cell phone. We receive the police report and theres no mention of them taking the cell phone from him.. and then we bring it up to his lawyers attention and he tries to get ahold of who he thinks took the phone away noone get's in contact with him, I just spent the last two days going from one police station to the next and nobody seems to be able to help us. Like it just fell off the face of the earth, the thing that frustrates me is that I can't do anything we tell our story to any officer we meet and we get nothing but attitude(it's like all they hear is arrested and Marijuana and they don't like ya!), I don't know what to do we're sick of paying for a phone that we don't have..... but I don't want to drop it because they had no right to take our phone from us. And if they can do it to us how many more people can they do it to.

If anyone out there has an opinion or solution I would really love to hear it..... Cause I don't know what to do anymore....
 
missile
#4
The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.
 
missile
#5
The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.
 
missile
#6
The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.
 
peapod
#7
Its gone...forget about it...you will never get it back.
 
peapod
#8
Its gone...forget about it...you will never get it back.
 
peapod
#9
Its gone...forget about it...you will never get it back.
 
zenfisher
#10
Call the number and see who answers. Call the cell provider to see if there is anyway they can trace it. If there are usage charges on your phone . Guess what, that is theft. Charge the arresting officer with theft ( or the desk sergent ..on second thought both). They were the one who removed it , they are now responsible for any expense inccurred by you. You now have a proof...in your arrest date as to when charges began to appear on your bill. This is excellent proof for a small claims case.( i'm really surprised your lawyer didn't think of that. Well maybe not. Padding the bill I guess. The police are not above the law.
 
zenfisher
#11
Call the number and see who answers. Call the cell provider to see if there is anyway they can trace it. If there are usage charges on your phone . Guess what, that is theft. Charge the arresting officer with theft ( or the desk sergent ..on second thought both). They were the one who removed it , they are now responsible for any expense inccurred by you. You now have a proof...in your arrest date as to when charges began to appear on your bill. This is excellent proof for a small claims case.( i'm really surprised your lawyer didn't think of that. Well maybe not. Padding the bill I guess. The police are not above the law.
 
zenfisher
#12
Call the number and see who answers. Call the cell provider to see if there is anyway they can trace it. If there are usage charges on your phone . Guess what, that is theft. Charge the arresting officer with theft ( or the desk sergent ..on second thought both). They were the one who removed it , they are now responsible for any expense inccurred by you. You now have a proof...in your arrest date as to when charges began to appear on your bill. This is excellent proof for a small claims case.( i'm really surprised your lawyer didn't think of that. Well maybe not. Padding the bill I guess. The police are not above the law.
 
Sharidon
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.

I thought of that as well, the only question that comes up is if it's evidence why wasn't it written in the report. And the trial is already over and done with.
 
Sharidon
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.

I thought of that as well, the only question that comes up is if it's evidence why wasn't it written in the report. And the trial is already over and done with.
 
Sharidon
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

The first thing that came to mind is that the police have the cell phone as evidence and are tracing all the numbers that may be stored in it's memory to try to find more suspects. it won't likely be returned until after the trial ,or the case is disposed of.

I thought of that as well, the only question that comes up is if it's evidence why wasn't it written in the report. And the trial is already over and done with.
 
Reverend Blair
#16
Cancel the phone and get another one. They either lost it or stole it. I take it that it wasn't listed on the sheet that they list all your possessions on when they arrest you, so you have no proof they ever had it.

Unless you've got bags of money laying around to pay lawyers and private investigators with, you aren;t going to be able to beat the cops on this one. You might want to contact the local press and see if they are interested in doing a story though.
 
Reverend Blair
#17
Cancel the phone and get another one. They either lost it or stole it. I take it that it wasn't listed on the sheet that they list all your possessions on when they arrest you, so you have no proof they ever had it.

Unless you've got bags of money laying around to pay lawyers and private investigators with, you aren;t going to be able to beat the cops on this one. You might want to contact the local press and see if they are interested in doing a story though.
 
Reverend Blair
#18
Cancel the phone and get another one. They either lost it or stole it. I take it that it wasn't listed on the sheet that they list all your possessions on when they arrest you, so you have no proof they ever had it.

Unless you've got bags of money laying around to pay lawyers and private investigators with, you aren;t going to be able to beat the cops on this one. You might want to contact the local press and see if they are interested in doing a story though.
 
peapod
#19
I would say they tossed it in the nearest garbage can....its not like they are not known for doing this kind of thing....
 
peapod
#20
I would say they tossed it in the nearest garbage can....its not like they are not known for doing this kind of thing....
 
peapod
#21
I would say they tossed it in the nearest garbage can....its not like they are not known for doing this kind of thing....
 
Reverend Blair
#22
They do have a bit of a reputation. Here in Winnipeg a native group has taken to filming cops when they see them hassling other natives in attempt to stop racially motivated beatings.
 
Reverend Blair
#23
They do have a bit of a reputation. Here in Winnipeg a native group has taken to filming cops when they see them hassling other natives in attempt to stop racially motivated beatings.
 
Reverend Blair
#24
They do have a bit of a reputation. Here in Winnipeg a native group has taken to filming cops when they see them hassling other natives in attempt to stop racially motivated beatings.
 
Twila
#25
Chances are they are waiting for the "right" phone call.

Canada has laws against entrapment. The cops have to get creative about catching the big guys.......

You'll never get the phone back.
 
Twila
#26
Chances are they are waiting for the "right" phone call.

Canada has laws against entrapment. The cops have to get creative about catching the big guys.......

You'll never get the phone back.
 
Twila
#27
Chances are they are waiting for the "right" phone call.

Canada has laws against entrapment. The cops have to get creative about catching the big guys.......

You'll never get the phone back.
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
#28
The reason why the police arrested you was an attempt to bankrupt you. That is the punishment they really want.
Jail costs the government money .... they want you to pay a bit from your finances too.

Everytime you need to pay the phone bill, it's just part of the punishment.

They would of been curious maybe about who was calling you.

Go to a community legal clinic and ask a lawyer there to write the court judge and ask for a copy of what was seized during the time of your arrest.
Perhaps you could write the Toronto Police Services Board and copy same to your MPP.

Double-Register or get a signature verifying mail delivery.
Send it Express post where someone needs to sign for it.
In an office environment, if someone signs for something, they "own" it. The first thing they gotta do is find somebody else to give it to so that they no longer "own" the letter of complaint themselves. So, you may get quicker attention.
The larger the envelope, the more space it takes-up on a desk, and office people like "empty" desktops. So, buy a large envelope and it will stand-out from the other half million letters of complaint.

The only thing that police forces understand is "budgets". That is all! Make no mistake about that!
It is more important to police management to remain within their department budget than it is to arrest a pervert.
Also .... They spend alot of time and pay alot of money trying to get good publicity. You have to do something that puts that at risk .... it is a cost/benefit theory that police always look to or consider.

Calm
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
#29
The reason why the police arrested you was an attempt to bankrupt you. That is the punishment they really want.
Jail costs the government money .... they want you to pay a bit from your finances too.

Everytime you need to pay the phone bill, it's just part of the punishment.

They would of been curious maybe about who was calling you.

Go to a community legal clinic and ask a lawyer there to write the court judge and ask for a copy of what was seized during the time of your arrest.
Perhaps you could write the Toronto Police Services Board and copy same to your MPP.

Double-Register or get a signature verifying mail delivery.
Send it Express post where someone needs to sign for it.
In an office environment, if someone signs for something, they "own" it. The first thing they gotta do is find somebody else to give it to so that they no longer "own" the letter of complaint themselves. So, you may get quicker attention.
The larger the envelope, the more space it takes-up on a desk, and office people like "empty" desktops. So, buy a large envelope and it will stand-out from the other half million letters of complaint.

The only thing that police forces understand is "budgets". That is all! Make no mistake about that!
It is more important to police management to remain within their department budget than it is to arrest a pervert.
Also .... They spend alot of time and pay alot of money trying to get good publicity. You have to do something that puts that at risk .... it is a cost/benefit theory that police always look to or consider.

Calm
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
#30
The reason why the police arrested you was an attempt to bankrupt you. That is the punishment they really want.
Jail costs the government money .... they want you to pay a bit from your finances too.

Everytime you need to pay the phone bill, it's just part of the punishment.

They would of been curious maybe about who was calling you.

Go to a community legal clinic and ask a lawyer there to write the court judge and ask for a copy of what was seized during the time of your arrest.
Perhaps you could write the Toronto Police Services Board and copy same to your MPP.

Double-Register or get a signature verifying mail delivery.
Send it Express post where someone needs to sign for it.
In an office environment, if someone signs for something, they "own" it. The first thing they gotta do is find somebody else to give it to so that they no longer "own" the letter of complaint themselves. So, you may get quicker attention.
The larger the envelope, the more space it takes-up on a desk, and office people like "empty" desktops. So, buy a large envelope and it will stand-out from the other half million letters of complaint.

The only thing that police forces understand is "budgets". That is all! Make no mistake about that!
It is more important to police management to remain within their department budget than it is to arrest a pervert.
Also .... They spend alot of time and pay alot of money trying to get good publicity. You have to do something that puts that at risk .... it is a cost/benefit theory that police always look to or consider.

Calm
 

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