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EmmaDibbs

Electoral Member
Nov 26, 2004
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Bournemouth, UK
There seem to be alot of smokers on the board. Being an ex-smoker I just can't stand the smell of smoke or smoky places any more- I think it's worse for some reason if you have previously smoked!!

Anyway- it looks like smoking will be banned in public in Poole- where I live- pretty soon. Now from my point of view that's great- I can sit and have a meal and not have someone else's smoke drifting across ruining it, etc, etc.

What do you think?? Good idea, bad idea?
 
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EmmaDibbs

Electoral Member
Nov 26, 2004
273
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Bournemouth, UK
There seem to be alot of smokers on the board. Being an ex-smoker I just can't stand the smell of smoke or smoky places any more- I think it's worse for some reason if you have previously smoked!!

Anyway- it looks like smoking will be banned in public in Poole- where I live- pretty soon. Now from my point of view that's great- I can sit and have a meal and not have someone else's smoke drifting across ruining it, etc, etc.

What do you think?? Good idea, bad idea?
 
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EmmaDibbs

Electoral Member
Nov 26, 2004
273
0
16
Bournemouth, UK
There seem to be alot of smokers on the board. Being an ex-smoker I just can't stand the smell of smoke or smoky places any more- I think it's worse for some reason if you have previously smoked!!

Anyway- it looks like smoking will be banned in public in Poole- where I live- pretty soon. Now from my point of view that's great- I can sit and have a meal and not have someone else's smoke drifting across ruining it, etc, etc.

What do you think?? Good idea, bad idea?
 
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Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
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Winnipeg
I had no real problem problem when they banned it in restaurants, Emma. We just started eating in the bar.

When they banned it in my curling club bar, a bunch of us quit. 4 out 5 of the adult fun leagues (read people who went to the bar after curling) folded. The curling club, which had been profitable, nearly went under. They had to cut staff and raise prices.

When they banned it in the bars in Winnipeg, most of us ended up just going to bars in the communities outside the city. A lot of bars nearly went broke. The Casinos (government owned) saw their profits dive.

Now they've banned it in public places across the province. Several restaurants and bars in small towns have closed because people just stay home in the winter now. Most bars that do well in the summer have a patio which is packed until the weather gets cold.

Oddly enough it seems that, in Manitoba at least, the same people who smoke are also the ones that like to go the bar, eat in restaurants, and gamble. We are not the people who are willing to stand outside in the cold though.
 
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Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
I had no real problem problem when they banned it in restaurants, Emma. We just started eating in the bar.

When they banned it in my curling club bar, a bunch of us quit. 4 out 5 of the adult fun leagues (read people who went to the bar after curling) folded. The curling club, which had been profitable, nearly went under. They had to cut staff and raise prices.

When they banned it in the bars in Winnipeg, most of us ended up just going to bars in the communities outside the city. A lot of bars nearly went broke. The Casinos (government owned) saw their profits dive.

Now they've banned it in public places across the province. Several restaurants and bars in small towns have closed because people just stay home in the winter now. Most bars that do well in the summer have a patio which is packed until the weather gets cold.

Oddly enough it seems that, in Manitoba at least, the same people who smoke are also the ones that like to go the bar, eat in restaurants, and gamble. We are not the people who are willing to stand outside in the cold though.
 
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Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
I had no real problem problem when they banned it in restaurants, Emma. We just started eating in the bar.

When they banned it in my curling club bar, a bunch of us quit. 4 out 5 of the adult fun leagues (read people who went to the bar after curling) folded. The curling club, which had been profitable, nearly went under. They had to cut staff and raise prices.

When they banned it in the bars in Winnipeg, most of us ended up just going to bars in the communities outside the city. A lot of bars nearly went broke. The Casinos (government owned) saw their profits dive.

Now they've banned it in public places across the province. Several restaurants and bars in small towns have closed because people just stay home in the winter now. Most bars that do well in the summer have a patio which is packed until the weather gets cold.

Oddly enough it seems that, in Manitoba at least, the same people who smoke are also the ones that like to go the bar, eat in restaurants, and gamble. We are not the people who are willing to stand outside in the cold though.
 
Cosmo

Cosmo

House Member
Jul 10, 2004
3,725
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Victoria, BC
I agree, Rev. I'm a smoker too. I do agree that smoke can be offensive to some (shoulda seen me as a non-smoker!), but I think that legislating against it only causes problems. They are now talking about banning smoking anywhere except your home and your car. Sheesh. Somebody has way too much time on their hands. I can't quite see how my smoking in a public park could possibly bother anyone. I figure there are bigger social issues that could be addressed.

I, too, avoid places that don't provide smokers with a comfortable spot to light up after a meal. I agree with what you said about smokers being a significant part of the supporting patrons, particularly in bars. To me, somebody's screaming baby or ill mannered little kid in a nice restaurant is way more offensive than smoke. But rather than trying to have rugrats banned from nice restaurants, I simply ask to be seated well away from any kids and, if kids bug me, tell their parents to control them. In short, I take care of my own comfort.

I agree with having non-smoking places and non-smoking sections but I think us addicts put enough of our hard-earned cash into the system to be accorded some consideration. Sure, it's bad. Just ask my old doctor. But so what. I figure nobody gets out alive anyway and if I'm not smoking I'm such a b*tch I'm not fit company anyhow.

It's kinda like being forced to wear motorcycle helmets. It used to annoy me in a big way. I carried a DNR on me (there goes the medical cost argument), I learned to ride with sufficient skill to be as safe as one can be and I rode without a helmet whenever I could (or whenever I was in a generally pissed off mood and didn't care if I got caught).

Same with smoking. Sure, it causes health problems but another way to look at it is all those health nuts and non-smokers are going to live longer and put a bigger burden on the health care system than us smokers. At least we kack before we need all that geriatric care! :)
 
Cosmo

Cosmo

House Member
Jul 10, 2004
3,725
22
38
Victoria, BC
I agree, Rev. I'm a smoker too. I do agree that smoke can be offensive to some (shoulda seen me as a non-smoker!), but I think that legislating against it only causes problems. They are now talking about banning smoking anywhere except your home and your car. Sheesh. Somebody has way too much time on their hands. I can't quite see how my smoking in a public park could possibly bother anyone. I figure there are bigger social issues that could be addressed.

I, too, avoid places that don't provide smokers with a comfortable spot to light up after a meal. I agree with what you said about smokers being a significant part of the supporting patrons, particularly in bars. To me, somebody's screaming baby or ill mannered little kid in a nice restaurant is way more offensive than smoke. But rather than trying to have rugrats banned from nice restaurants, I simply ask to be seated well away from any kids and, if kids bug me, tell their parents to control them. In short, I take care of my own comfort.

I agree with having non-smoking places and non-smoking sections but I think us addicts put enough of our hard-earned cash into the system to be accorded some consideration. Sure, it's bad. Just ask my old doctor. But so what. I figure nobody gets out alive anyway and if I'm not smoking I'm such a b*tch I'm not fit company anyhow.

It's kinda like being forced to wear motorcycle helmets. It used to annoy me in a big way. I carried a DNR on me (there goes the medical cost argument), I learned to ride with sufficient skill to be as safe as one can be and I rode without a helmet whenever I could (or whenever I was in a generally pissed off mood and didn't care if I got caught).

Same with smoking. Sure, it causes health problems but another way to look at it is all those health nuts and non-smokers are going to live longer and put a bigger burden on the health care system than us smokers. At least we kack before we need all that geriatric care! :)
 
Cosmo

Cosmo

House Member
Jul 10, 2004
3,725
22
38
Victoria, BC
I agree, Rev. I'm a smoker too. I do agree that smoke can be offensive to some (shoulda seen me as a non-smoker!), but I think that legislating against it only causes problems. They are now talking about banning smoking anywhere except your home and your car. Sheesh. Somebody has way too much time on their hands. I can't quite see how my smoking in a public park could possibly bother anyone. I figure there are bigger social issues that could be addressed.

I, too, avoid places that don't provide smokers with a comfortable spot to light up after a meal. I agree with what you said about smokers being a significant part of the supporting patrons, particularly in bars. To me, somebody's screaming baby or ill mannered little kid in a nice restaurant is way more offensive than smoke. But rather than trying to have rugrats banned from nice restaurants, I simply ask to be seated well away from any kids and, if kids bug me, tell their parents to control them. In short, I take care of my own comfort.

I agree with having non-smoking places and non-smoking sections but I think us addicts put enough of our hard-earned cash into the system to be accorded some consideration. Sure, it's bad. Just ask my old doctor. But so what. I figure nobody gets out alive anyway and if I'm not smoking I'm such a b*tch I'm not fit company anyhow.

It's kinda like being forced to wear motorcycle helmets. It used to annoy me in a big way. I carried a DNR on me (there goes the medical cost argument), I learned to ride with sufficient skill to be as safe as one can be and I rode without a helmet whenever I could (or whenever I was in a generally pissed off mood and didn't care if I got caught).

Same with smoking. Sure, it causes health problems but another way to look at it is all those health nuts and non-smokers are going to live longer and put a bigger burden on the health care system than us smokers. At least we kack before we need all that geriatric care! :)
 
Twila

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
14,698
73
48
I'm a smoker and I LOVE that there is no smoking in restaurants. I don't like eating and sniffing smoke.

Course here it doesn't (hardly ever) get too cold for going outside. It also has the wonderful side effect of causing you to smoke less.

I don't smoke in my house either. Nor do I allow guests to smoke inside. I hate the smell. It's disgusting. That and it wrecks your walls, your art work, your computer.........

We've had no smoking in public places for just over 5 yrs now. When I moved to the mainland you were still able to smoke in public places in Delta. I hated it. Now it's equal. No smoking in surrey or delta.
 
Twila

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
14,698
73
48
I'm a smoker and I LOVE that there is no smoking in restaurants. I don't like eating and sniffing smoke.

Course here it doesn't (hardly ever) get too cold for going outside. It also has the wonderful side effect of causing you to smoke less.

I don't smoke in my house either. Nor do I allow guests to smoke inside. I hate the smell. It's disgusting. That and it wrecks your walls, your art work, your computer.........

We've had no smoking in public places for just over 5 yrs now. When I moved to the mainland you were still able to smoke in public places in Delta. I hated it. Now it's equal. No smoking in surrey or delta.
 
Twila

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
14,698
73
48
I'm a smoker and I LOVE that there is no smoking in restaurants. I don't like eating and sniffing smoke.

Course here it doesn't (hardly ever) get too cold for going outside. It also has the wonderful side effect of causing you to smoke less.

I don't smoke in my house either. Nor do I allow guests to smoke inside. I hate the smell. It's disgusting. That and it wrecks your walls, your art work, your computer.........

We've had no smoking in public places for just over 5 yrs now. When I moved to the mainland you were still able to smoke in public places in Delta. I hated it. Now it's equal. No smoking in surrey or delta.
 
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