Childhood is not a disorder
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It's easier to dope "difficult" children and make them quiet and compliant than to try to teach them. School teachers with so-so educations are making life-changing diagnosis on their students. Have you noticed that the "problem" children are usually boys? Perhaps ... maybe just ... the problem isn't that they have a disorder, it's that they act like boys and that is more than a lot of teachers are willing or able to deal with.
That's nice. In the schools I have been involved with and the ADHD support groups I've been involved with, very few of the kids were diagnosed by a psychologist, let alone a psychiatrist.
I don't agree with your brain-dead characterisation, but I do agree that medically unqualified stewards should not be labelling children and advancing the notion that medication is required in lieu of less invasive and more caring interventions.
I'm neither left nor right so I tend to piss off both sides.
Quite often, thsoe "troubled" kids are the smartest and get frigidity when bored by the monotonous drone of teachers teaching to the lowest common denominator. Schools, by using a "one size fits all" curriculum, doesn't do justice to individual students. Each child has a different aptitude for learning, some fast, some slow, but most end up at the same place if allowed to progress at their own rate and excel in subjects that they are interested in.
There was a school in BC called Educo, which is the root Greek word of education. It means to bring forth the natural genius of the child. Our school systems tend to treat the child as an empty vessel that needs filling. This is, in my opinion, the root cause of all the dysfunction in the school systems. Children are not born brain dead... but some learn to be in a system that does not reflect the reality of who and what we are.
and the majority of this rant has sweet fu ck all to do with the OP that YOU posted. The OP and video does not say nor does it refer to the school system. I brought up teachers misdiagnosing children. Your OP talks or implies that it is the medical profession, specifically psychiatry, that is doing the misdiagnosing. The majority of ADHD diagnosis's in school age children are NOT done by psychiatrist.
My sister noticed my nephew was easily distracted and getting in trouble. She made an appointment with her GP who referred him to a place that specializes in learning disabilities where they did some testing and observations. They sent a report to her GP recommending he try concerta for 3 months and come back to redo the testing. After seeing a vast improvement in his testing he was then given the diagnosis of ADHD.
No shrink involved.
No shrink involved.
There are 2 ways of doing it. One, is through a child psychiatrist that specializes in childhood disorders, and the second is through some place that specializes in childhood disorders. My boys went to both. First to a specialist(child psychiatrist) who referred us to a special clinic for a confirmed diagnosis. We also went the full round of allergies, food, dyes, etc. Cause, you do realize that ALL these "disorders" are because of food and environment. :roll:
Somebody has a YouTube disorder.
I'm assuming it was the Learning Disablities Assoc of Alberta? My nephew did the Learning Disabilites Assoc of SK. He goes for cognitive sessions with the goal of having him manage the condition without medication. He is a top student now and doesn't get in trouble at school or at home.
They do good work at LDAofSK
I'm assuming it was the Learning Disablities Assoc of Alberta? My nephew did the Learning Disabilites Assoc of SK. He goes for cognitive sessions with the goal of having him manage the condition without medication. He is a top student now and doesn't get in trouble at school or at home.
They do good work at LDAofSK
This was quite some time ago. My 2 oldest are now 32 and 36 and it was in the lowermainland of BC. We were lucky and ended up hooked up with the leading child psychiatrist in western Canada when it came to ADHD.
I have nothing but good things to say about LDA of SK. They changed his life for the better. ADHD had him by the balls now he has ADHD by the balls. Without them he would have ended up in jail or with an addiction. He is a very smart kid with a great future ahead of him.
It's more of a risk to not diagnose. Medications are intended for short term while counseling gives them the tools needed to work around the ADD/ADHD.
It works.
My grandson is autistic. I'm hoping he will be able to adjust without any medications. Because I feel for various reasons that many things relative to that are experimental. Not an exact science. He seems to be doing okay without that.
A good old ADHD thread, i agree with gerryh in the respect that teachers should not have any weigh in on diagnosing kids, none what so ever. I seen a psychiatrist(very sweet lady) as a child and was diagnosed with ADD-hyperactivity even while it was apparently obvious. I used to be ignorant towards the whole thing of ADHD doesn't exist but ive changed my mind about it and i know it does exist.
What is your beef besides the fact that I posted it? Most kids are diagnosed while in school. How many parents take their kids for assessment before school? With some kids it may be apparent from shortly after birth but the vast majority of kids being diagnosed with many of these so called disorders are done so in schools because teachers are not trained nor do they have the time to deal with "problem" kids. Most of the disorders mentioned in the OP are made up to sell drugs and placate teachers. I say, put the teachers on Ritalin and leave the kids alone.
Gawd, they even now have a "disorder" for people who do not want to eat food poisoned by pesticides or herbicides. If you want to eat organic you have a mental disorder. They even have a drug for "restless leg syndrome". The book on mental disorders went from a couple of hundred pages to thousands of pages in the last few decades. I am beginning to think that shrinks are not qualified to diagnose any more than teachers are. The whole medical profession has become nothing more than legalized drug pushers.
And my "rant" has everything to do with the OP. If you can't make the connection, that is your problem.