For The Record, I Think This Is A Stupid Idea

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Should women be offered paid menstrual leave?

Published Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:16AM EST
Last Updated Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:06PM EST
For many women, "that special time of the month" -- their menstrual period -- brings such pain and discomfort, they simply stay home from work. But what if women were allowed to take a few days off each month for menstrual leave, separate from their sick leave, without worrying about losing their jobs?
It's an idea that isn't new: several other east Asian countries have had menstrual leave policies and laws in place for decades. But the idea has become a hot point of discussion in the U.K. after being raised again at the Festival of Ideas, in Cambridge, last month.
Gynecologist Dr. Gedis Grudzinskas, who was on that panel, says he likes the idea of menstrual leave. He says the patients who come to him are often struggling with their reproductive health and are worried that their positions at work may be jeopardized if they take time off work to address their problems.




"I don't think that's fair. It's time to look at this again," he told CTV News Channel Wednesday from London.
Grudzinskas says the idea is not so much about giving special status to women with menstrual problems or helping them earn more money, but ensuring that employers be more sensitive to their workers' health needs.
Japan was the first country to enact menstrual leave laws into their labour standards. That was back in 1947, when women were flooding into the workplace and where decent washroom facilities were unavailable to them.
Under the Japanese law, women are allowed to stay home from work during their periods without fear of losing their jobs, although companies do not need to pay them for the days off. The law does not limit how many days off a month they can take.
In South Korea, women are entitled to one day of menstrual leave a month and can get additional pay from their employers if they choose not to take it. Indonesian women are entitled to two days a month of menstrual leave.
Taiwan brought in menstrual leave legislation only recently, in 2013, guaranteeing women three days of menstrual leave a year on top of the 30 days of half-paid sick leave all workers receive.
Some have criticized the laws as unfair to men, or furthering the mistaken belief that women are weak and controlled by their hormones. But the reality is that in many areas, the laws are now rarely used.
A report in the Korea Times found that few women take the menstrual leave they're entitled to, particularly if they work in male-dominated workplaces. Some women are too embarrassed to ask for the time from their bosses, others say they are too busy to stay home.
Emily Matchar writes in The Atlantic that the number of women taking menstrual leave in Japan plummeted over the second half of the 20th century.
But given that so many women suffer real, debilitating pain during their periods, Grudzinskas told the Mail Online that he thinks menstrual leave is an idea worth exploring further.
"Menstrual leave will make people feel more happy and comfortable in the workplace, which is a positive thing," he said.

Read more: Should women be offered paid menstrual leave? | CTV News

The last thing we need to be doing is catering to more whining. If things are truly that bad, seek medical intervention because for probably 99% of us, we can manage just fine.
 

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Should women be offered paid menstrual leave?

Published Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:16AM EST
Last Updated Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:06PM EST
For many women, "that special time of the month" -- their menstrual period -- brings such pain and discomfort, they simply stay home from work. But what if women were allowed to take a few days off each month for menstrual leave, separate from their sick leave, without worrying about losing their jobs?





Whatever the consumer can afford. I won't be buying whatever it is, she produces.:)
 

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The last thing we need to be doing is catering to more whining. If things are truly that bad, seek medical intervention because for probably 99% of us, we can manage just fine.

Medical intervention like a day off? Sometimes doctors recommend rest.
 

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Personaly, I would not look for role-models in Asia, our western work ethics are just fine with me. Menstrual cramps only last for a few hours, at best and if someone can't deal with that she may not be fit to hold that job, anyway. She might be sick with some related condition and should have a medical checkup.
 

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If you're sick, you take a sick day......
Talk about overkill legislation.

Every legislation is opened to potential abuse and loop holes. Will we hire some kind of PMS police to make sure it won't be taken advantage of?

Cause if people are allowed to be lazy they will chose to be lazy over being productive. Naturally
 

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Cause if people are allowed to be lazy they will chose to be lazy over being productive. Naturally

That's personality more than anything else. I generally can't sit still. I'm allowed to lay on the couch when I'm home but it rarely occurs to me to do so.
 

Angstrom

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That's personality more than anything else. I generally can't sit still. I'm allowed to lay on the couch when I'm home but it rarely occurs to me to do so.

Based on what you bring to this forum you're about the most useless *** I've ever had the chance of meeting.
 
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Why not just pay them to stay home? If women expect to be treated as equals in the workplace they can't be pushing for special treatment like this, especially if they wish to climb the corporate ladder.
 

Cannuck

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Based on what you bring to this forum you're about the most useless tite I've ever had the chance of meeting.

Well, I haven't valued your opinion before now so perhaps you'll understand why I don't value it now. I do find it interesting that you believe people will be lazy just because they are allowed to be. I think that shows all we need to know about your work ethic.
 
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JLM

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Why not just pay them to stay home? If women expect to be treated as equals in the workplace they can't be pushing for special treatment like this, especially if they wish to climb the corporate ladder.


Should a guy expect to qualify for sick leave when he has a case of lovers' nuts and that can last a couple of weeks?:)
 

Angstrom

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Well, I haven't valued your opinion before now so perhaps you'll understand why I don't value it now. I do find it interesting that you believe people will be lazy just because they are allowed to be. I think that shows all we need to know about your work ethic.
And you're post just showed us exactly what kind of common sense you don't have.

I hate to remind you for the 5th time this week that the humans on this planet are not all as perfect and flawless as you make yourself out to be.
 

Cannuck

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And you're post just showed us exactly what kind of common sense you don't have.

I hate to remind you for the 5th time in this week that the humans on this planet are not all as perfect and flawless as you make yourself out to be.

While I can appreciate you needing to make it about me, my perceived perfection in yours eyes has absolutely nothing to do with your work ethic (or lack thereof)
 

Angstrom

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You may be close to godliness in you're head but the rest of us are only humans and don't pretend otherwise.

Start a thread on my work ethics if this is what you would like to talk about.
 

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Guess which one is Cannuck....?





You really don't want to play his stupid game.............. do you Angstrom?????
 

Angstrom

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Don't be silly. You're the one that keeps bringing it up. You do seem to have low self esteem so I can understand how somebody as confident as I may seem that way to you,

All you're post Are about you're moral superiority. And I know you're not bright enough to notice it by yourself so I'm giving you the reson everyone finds you annoying.

Guess which one is Cannuck....?





You really don't want to play his stupid game.............. do you Angstrom?????
I'm really only trying to help the pore bastard