Why ask for help then?


Locutus
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via sda:

Assembly of First Nations, May 16th;
"Today's RCMP report reaffirms the magnitude of the crisis of missing and murdered Indigenous women in Canada and clearly indicates the urgent need for action by many different players, including First Nations, governments, police services and others," said AFN Regional Chief Alexis, who leads the AFN work in the area of justice and policing.
Canadian Press, May 15th;
"We had the blessing of the chief, we had the blessing of the organization to come in and do a review," said Pringle. "Then when I go out to Yorkton a week ago, I'm told by the FSIN that, 'You're an outsider. You don't have any jurisdiction here. And we don't have to talk to you and we're not going to accept your report.'"

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BruSan
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Where's the problem? Just fly over and drop a pallet load of cash or a Cadillac Escalade somewhere near the chief's home and as usual the problem will go away.


Nothing new to see here, move along.
 
petros
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#3
Maybe just maybe cracking down on the men and gangs will lead to reduced missing women. It ain't f-ckin whitie hiding bodies on the Rez.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Maybe just maybe cracking down on the men and gangs will lead to reduced missing women. It ain't f-ckin whitie hiding bodies on the Rez.

 
petros
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#5
Killed whites and worked for HAs
 
Twila
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#6
The first story is about murdered first nations women and the second story is about a first nations boy.


It looks to me like they want acknolowedgement and aid with respect to stopping the rape and murder of first nations women but would like to deal with their child care issues on their own. It`s clear that churches and gov`t are not to be trusted when it comes to first nations children.
http://midislandnews.com/canadas-nut...ions-1942-1952

First nations women experience sexual violence and violence in greater amounts then non native women. I`d imagine years and years of abuse from gov`t and schools is going to have an adverse effect on their population that the last 10 yrs of relative self reliance is not going to change.

You can see this same effect in any low income housing project for welfare white people too. When automony is taken away or handed over, self responsibility and self respect deteriorate.


I`d imagine when you`re told over and over that your missing women total only 580 with the most occurring between 1990-2010 and then you find out the number is actually almost 1200 you`re going to be a little hesitant in believing what you`re told.
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/05/01...original-women

Native women experience the double edge sword of discrimination. Being both female AND first nations. This is not something most people can relate here in North America can relate to.
http://aptn.ca/news/2013/02/23/blood...t-her-instead/
 
petros
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Quote:

I`d imagine years and years of abuse from gov`t and schools

It's always f-ckin' whities fault and always leads back to 50 year old claims?
 
taxslave
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#8
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's always f-ckin' whities fault and always leads back to 50 year old claims?

When you are looking for more taxpayers money it does.
 
Twila
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#9
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's always f-ckin' whities fault and always leads back to 50 year old claims?

yep.

From the response here alone I can see why First Nations have such a hard time being heard. White people have this huge defense knee jerk reaction here in Canada when it comes to Natives. It was the same for blacks during the 50`s and 60`s. Hopefully the next generation of white people will not respond with their ego but with their hearts.
 
Cliffy
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10 generations of abuse and discrimination is locked into the cellular memory of most aboriginal peoples. It is not something that gets straightened out in one night or one generation. People with no empathy are sick in their soul.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

10 generations of abuse and discrimination is locked into the cellular memory of most aboriginal peoples. It is not something that gets straightened out in one night or one generation. People with no empathy are sick in their soul.

There is a difference between empathy and having your wallet picked.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

When you are looking for more taxpayers money it does.

Cause Natives and taxes always comes up as a reason to treat them like sh it.

Poking holes in First Nations taxation mythology | rabble.ca
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

You can see this same effect in any low income housing project for welfare white people too. When automony is taken away or handed over, self responsibility and self respect deteriorate.

You also have SS acting like a jailer in a lot of cases and not giving a fuk in cases where they should be involved but then their 'solutions' don't do anything to relieve the conditions.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

10 generations of abuse and discrimination is locked into the cellular memory of most aboriginal peoples. It is not something that gets straightened out in one night or one generation. People with no empathy are sick in their soul.

I guess selling your sister for crack is genetic too then eh?

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Cause Natives and taxes always comes up as a reason to treat them like sh it.

Poking holes in First Nations taxation mythology | rabble.ca

Maybe if they stop treating each other like sh-t they'll get somewhere?
 
MHz
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

10 generations of abuse and discrimination is locked into the cellular memory of most aboriginal peoples. It is not something that gets straightened out in one night or one generation. People with no empathy are sick in their soul.

You would think the world's most persecuted people would step up to the plate, oh wait they have Gaza and us lightening the load for those on reservations would actually be counter-productive.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I guess selling your sister for crack is genetic too then eh?



Maybe if they stop treating each other like sh-t they'll get somewhere?

You have an exceedingly narrow view. I have never seen that. Must be a Regina problem. Latinos, blacks, whites, Italians.... all have a faction that will sell their sisters for crack. It is not endemic to all the people in those groups.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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There is a very real problem of domestic abuse on reserves. That is not to say that the Highway of Tears has anything to do with domestic abuse. The politicians within these reserves are not helping by blocking police interaction. There are quite possibly two or three killers at work on the highway stretching between Prince George and Prince Rupert. This should not be considered a political issue, this is about missing women and for those who don't know not all of the victims were native. Not that it should make any difference.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

yep.

From the response here alone I can see why First Nations have such a hard time being heard. White people have this huge defense knee jerk reaction here in Canada when it comes to Natives. It was the same for blacks during the 50`s and 60`s. Hopefully the next generation of white people will not respond with their ego but with their hearts.


I know the true identities of a few members on this board but the rest, who knows. Assumptions could prove embarrassing.

flossy could be indian female, bornruff a transgender mesopotamian, cliffy an asian, eaglesmack a mexican and I could be black. ya never know.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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#19
Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

yep.

From the response here alone I can see why First Nations have such a hard time being heard. White people have this huge defense knee jerk reaction here in Canada when it comes to Natives. It was the same for blacks during the 50`s and 60`s. Hopefully the next generation of white people will not respond with their ego but with their hearts.

Will hearts be good enough or will wallets be required?
 
Sal
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

You also have SS acting like a jailer in a lot of cases and not giving a fuk in cases where they should be involved but then their 'solutions' don't do anything to relieve the conditions.

FCS is run by the Reserve and the boy who was killed was not a member of the Reserve...the child who killed the little boy is a high needs FN child. That is why they do not want to accept the report because there is culpability by the CFS which places the problem squarely on the Reserve.

As for the missing women, according to the article they are just laying out what is needed.

Quote:

(Ottawa, ON) – Assembly of First Nations (AFN) Regional Chief for Alberta Cameron Alexis today expressed the urgent need for action on ending violence against Indigenous women and girls, including the importance of achieving justice for the family and friends of victims. Regional Chief Alexis’s comments come after today’s release of the National Operational Overview on Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women report by Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP).

Nothing negative, nothing positive yet.

Here is the actual report about the missing women:

Ottawa, May 16, 2014 – Today the RCMP released the National Operational Review on Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women. With the assistance of Statistics Canada and close to 300 policing agencies across Canada, the RCMP has taken a leadership role on behalf of all Canadian law enforcement to produce the most comprehensive account of missing and murdered Aboriginal women in Canada to date.

“Every file we reviewed represents a mother, grandmother, daughter, sister, aunt or friend,” said Bob Paulson, Commissioner of the RCMP. “We cannot lose sight of the human aspect of these incidents and we call upon partners and communities to work together to find solutions to this issue.”

The operational overview reveals that missing and murdered Aboriginal women are over-represented vis--vis their proportion of the Canadian population. Aboriginal women accounted for 16% of female homicides and 11.3% of missing women. This is three to four times higher than the representation of Aboriginal women in the Canadian population which is 4.3%.

The research identified 1,181 missing and murdered Aboriginal women in Canadian police databases: 164 missing (dating back to 1952) and 1,017 murdered (between 1980 and 2012). It further clarifies that almost 9 out of 10 murders of Aboriginal women are resolved across Canadian law enforcement jurisdictions (897 out of 1,017). That leaves 120 homicide cases and 105 missing cases. The overview reveals a virtually identical homicide solving rate for Aboriginal women (88%) and non-Aboriginal women (89%). The study reveals that the rate of stranger perpetrated homicide against Aboriginal women is 8%, virtually the same as for non-Aboriginal women (7%). Our research also highlights characteristics of the perpetrators of Aboriginal women homicides, for example they were male in 89% of the cases, they were 35 years old on average and in 63% of the cases, they had consumed intoxicants prior to the incident.

“This research has done more than just provide numbers,” added Janice Armstrong, Deputy Commissioner, Contract and Aboriginal Policing. “It has identified key vulnerability factors for the victims as well as valuable information on the perpetrators. With this additional information, police and our partners can better focus prevention initiatives in high-risk communities, to help reduce violence against Aboriginal women and girls.”

The RCMP remains committed to resolving the outstanding cases, and seeking closure and justice for families and friends of all Aboriginal women who have gone missing or have been murdered in Canada. Violence against Aboriginal women is a societal concern for Canada that goes beyond the law enforcement community. We are working with our partners to prevent future tragedies.

Link to high resolution images (presented at news conference):
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/mmaw-faapd-slides-diapos-eng.htm
 
MHz
#21
It seems like it is an attempt to stop a trickle of water when right beside it the dam has already been in failure mode for more than 100 years. The Fed Government runs the show and any attempt to paint it otherwise is a sham. Throwing money at 'the problem' is part of the problem, the solution is to give them all a tour of the whole world then they can see the 'scope of the problem' rather than the current solution which is to erases any traces of their heritage without giving them full rights in society. Put restriction on that integration and the full blame is put in the Indians as designed.

Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Will hearts be good enough or will wallets be required?

This is the free world, mess up a little and you pay a lot of bucks through the court system. (until you get too big to fail)

Based on population numbers how much higher is that compared to the rset of Canadian Society?
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Will hearts be good enough or will wallets be required?


Both.
 
petros
#23
What will the wallet do?
 
Twila
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I know the true identities of a few members on this board but the rest, who knows. Assumptions could prove embarrassing.

flossy could be indian female, bornruff a transgender mesopotamian, cliffy an asian, eaglesmack a mexican and I could be black. ya never know.


You're right.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

What will the wallet do?

I don't know, but some become super concerned with their wallets when the word Native is mentioned
 
petros
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Then how about we stick with what works....heart. If it's accepted over cash that is.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

What will the wallet do?

Hold the cash of course.
 
BruSan
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

yep.

From the response here alone I can see why First Nations have such a hard time being heard. White people have this huge defense knee jerk reaction here in Canada when it comes to Natives. It was the same for blacks during the 50`s and 60`s. Hopefully the next generation of white people will not respond with their ego but with their hearts.


Sorry for your misunderstanding of the basics regarding this nonsense. Their lives are chit because they patterned it that way themselves.


You cannot as a people demand caretaking and in the very next breath demand self-determination; it's gotta be ~ ONE OR THE OTHER!


Suckling on your mothers teat precludes you getting to ask for the keys to the car Saturday night.


We've made promises we haven't kept, but while doing so carries guilt, so too does the taking whatever largesse offered and squandering it irresponsibly while ignoring the normal requisites of child rearing and moral imperatives. They don't get to claim their teen-agers are all heading to the big smoke to become prostitutes and druggies because we didn't put enough zeros on a cheque.
Last edited by BruSan; May 21st, 2014 at 10:06 AM..
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Cause Natives and taxes always comes up as a reason to treat them like sh it.

Poking holes in First Nations taxation mythology | rabble.ca

Now there is a biased OP-ED. Misses completely the huge amount of tax dollars syphoned out of our wallets for The Native industry. Did you know that contrary to what your source indicates status indians do not pay GST on new vehicles. Or cigarettes, or gas, or..... Or school taxes. That is paid for them by the feds that get their money from guess where?
 
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