Study finds no link between medical marijuana legalization and crime


Locutus
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Though it may come as no surprise to law-abiding stoners and medicinal pot users, a new study suggests legalizing marijuana for medical use is not associated with an uptick in crime.Even before Washington and Colorado legalized pot for recreational use, opponents were arguing that the drug's proliferation for medicinal purposes would result in higher rates of crime and delinquency. But a new study by researchers at the University of Texas, Dallas, determined that not to be the case.

"The main finding is that we found no increase in crime rates resulting from medical marijuana legalization," explained Dr. Robert Morris (external - login to view), associate professor of criminology and lead author of the study, which was recently published in the journal PLOS ONE (external - login to view). "In fact, we found some evidence of decreasing rates of some types of violent crime, namely homicide and assault."


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No correlation between medical marijuana legalization, crime increase - UPI.com (external - login to view)
 
SLM
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Shocking, not. Give them a well enough stocked pantry and these folks would likely never leave the house.
 
JLM
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I think someone may be on to something, I guess if bank robberies were legalized there would be no connection to crime. -
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Shocking, not. Give them a well enough stocked pantry and these folks would likely never leave the house.

Don't be silly we have to go out to water the weed and pick the goodies to stock the pantry.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think someone may be on to something, I guess if bank robberies were legalized there would be no connection to crime. -

You will be reincarnated into a grow room.
 
mentalfloss
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EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Frodo agrees

 
BornRuff
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The whole medical marijuana debate is really stupid. Deciding what drugs are safe and effective for the treatment of medical issues is not a political question and should not be up to politicians.

Some of the supporters are not helping the cause though. There is a large group of people who support medical marijuana mostly because they see it as a stepping stone for marijuana being legalized for general use. Connecting the two issues scares off lawmakers who might otherwise be indifferent to marijuana being used for strictly medical purposes.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Shocking, not. Give them a well enough stocked pantry and these folks would likely never leave the house.

Are you kidding? Give them a well-stocked pantry and they'll never leave the couch.

Oops, sorry. Canada. Make that "the Chesterfield."
 
petros
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Chester what?
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Chester what?

I think it's the same thing as a sofa.
 
DaSleeper
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Or davenport...
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Or davenport...

I love this word...davenport.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

I love this word...davenport.

There's a Davenport, Iowa (I think that's where the "davenport" originally comes from). You wouldn't like it.
 
Twila
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Crime went down after prohibition of alcohol too. Went down to the same levels before prohibition.

Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

There's a Davenport, Iowa (I think that's where the "davenport" originally comes from). You wouldn't like it.

Oh, seedy and dangerous?

I've been to Devonport New Zealand...slightly different but still posh sounding and it was beautiful.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

The whole medical marijuana debate is really stupid. Deciding what drugs are safe and effective for the treatment of medical issues is not a political question and should not be up to politicians.

Who else can make legal what is illegal?

Quote:

Some of the supporters are not helping the cause though. There is a large group of people who support medical marijuana mostly because they see it as a stepping stone for marijuana being legalized for general use. Connecting the two issues scares off lawmakers who might otherwise be indifferent to marijuana being used for strictly medical purposes.

But that is not far off the mark at all. Medical use is a stepping stone for recreational use. Look at California... you can get a weed card for just about anything. Colorado and Washington have already made it legal for recreation.
 
JLM
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Years ago an M.D. came right out and said although marijuana is effective at treating some diseases, there are other drugs that are more effective. Not sure what his credentials were or if in fact there was validity in what he stated!
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Years ago an M.D. came right out and said although marijuana is effective at treating some diseases, there are other drugs that are more effective. Not sure what his credentials were or if in fact there was validity in what he stated!

Like medicinal whiskey?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Crime went down after prohibition of alcohol too. Went down to the same levels before prohibition.



Oh, seedy and dangerous?

I've been to Devonport New Zealand...slightly different but still posh sounding and it was beautiful.

Nah, just. . . Iowa.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Who else can make legal what is illegal?

Oh. Oh! Me! Me! I know! Pick me!

The answer is the Supreme Court, Mr. Eaglesmack.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Who else can make legal what is illegal?

How often does any other potential medication get debated in congress so much? Normally that is delegated to an organization like the FDA that tests drugs for effectiveness and side effects.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

But that is not far off the mark at all. Medical use is a stepping stone for recreational use. Look at California... you can get a weed card for just about anything. Colorado and Washington have already made it legal for recreation.

It isn't off the mark because that is how the debate is being framed by people on both sides. It is a shame, since if it is beneficial for people who are sick, they shouldn't be denied access based on political BS.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post



It isn't off the mark because that is how the debate is being framed by people on both sides. It is a shame, since if it is beneficial for people who are sick, they shouldn't be denied access based on political BS.

Studies have shown that pot is also good for people with anxiety and those experiencing lonliness. So itshelpful for people who aren't sick per se.

I don't see why some one who enjoys a hoot should be considered a criminal while someone who likes to get drunk is just an average citizen.

Forget the slippery slope arguement. Thats 1950's faulty logic.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Oh. Oh! Me! Me! I know! Pick me!

The answer is the Supreme Court, Mr. Eaglesmack.

And a case needs to be brought before them.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

How often does any other potential medication get debated in congress so much? Normally that is delegated to an organization like the FDA that tests drugs for effectiveness and side effects.

Marijuana is an illegal substance.



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It isn't off the mark because that is how the debate is being framed by people on both sides. It is a shame, since if it is beneficial for people who are sick, they shouldn't be denied access based on political BS.

But it is accurate. Getting it approved as medicine is one step towards recreational use.

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Studies have shown that pot is also good for people with anxiety and those experiencing lonliness. So itshelpful for people who aren't sick per se.

I don't see why some one who enjoys a hoot should be considered a criminal while someone who likes to get drunk is just an average citizen.

Forget the slippery slope arguement. Thats 1950's faulty logic.

Weed makes you feel good! Lots of drugs do.
 
petros
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How many crippled or sick criminals are there?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many crippled or sick criminals are there?

I bet there is a few right?

I hope they make it legal at any rate.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Studies have shown that pot is also good for people with anxiety and those experiencing lonliness. So itshelpful for people who aren't sick per se.

I don't see why some one who enjoys a hoot should be considered a criminal while someone who likes to get drunk is just an average citizen.

Forget the slippery slope arguement. Thats 1950's faulty logic.

I really don't care if it is legal or not. I just think that if it is beneficial to people for medical reasons, that it is a shame that those people's fates have to be lumped in with people who just want to use it recreationally.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Marijuana is an illegal substance.

I think you know what I am mean here.

Medical decisions should be made by medical professionals.

Let congress debate about the morality of letting people get high for fun. If the there is scientific proof that a drug is safe and effective, that is all that should be required for drug to be available to patients.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

But it is accurate. Getting it approved as medicine is one step towards recreational use.

I am not disagreeing with you that it is an accurate description of the current debate, but it doesn't have to be.

It is not like the legal use of opiates as medication has made them any more legal as a street drug.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

I really don't care if it is legal or not. I just think that if it is beneficial to people for medical reasons, that it is a shame that those people's fates have to be lumped in with people who just want to use it recreationally.



I think you know what I am mean here.

Medical decisions should be made by medical professionals.

Let congress debate about the morality of letting people get high for fun. If the there is scientific proof that a drug is safe and effective, that is all that should be required for drug to be available to patients.



I am not disagreeing with you that it is an accurate description of the current debate, but it doesn't have to be.

It is not like the legal use of opiates as medication has made them any more legal as a street drug.

I do know what you mean but the fact is that it is an illegal substance.

And letting Doctors decide? I would not hedge your bets on that one. Many do not want it legal as they believe there are other drugs that are better. From what I can tell the medical community has the position that says yeah it helps alleviate some ailments but there are other drugs that do more.

Opiates are a scourge.
 
Twila
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Quote:

I do know what you mean but the fact is that it is an illegal substance.

Would faulty reasoning/logic/politics behind the illegalization have any weight?

Has this road been travelled in this debate yet?

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post


Weed makes you feel good! Lots of drugs do.


Would you consider alcohol to be a drug?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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STOP! You had me at weed!
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I do know what you mean but the fact is that it is an illegal substance.

And letting Doctors decide? I would not hedge your bets on that one. Many do not want it legal as they believe there are other drugs that are better. From what I can tell the medical community has the position that says yeah it helps alleviate some ailments but there are other drugs that do more.

By medical professionals, I mean more like the FDA, which I assume employs some doctors, but also all types of medical scientists.

As I have said before though, I am not angling for it to be legal or not. All I really want is the choice to be made objectively.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Opiates are a scourge.

If you happened to be someone with a condition that causes a lot of paid, you likely would not stand by that opinion.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I bet there is a few right?

I hope they make it legal at any rate.

Whole new med pot rules came into play today in Canada. People can't grow their own legally anymore and you can only buy from corporate growers.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

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If you happened to be someone with a condition that causes a lot of paid, you likely would not stand by that opinion.


They are now testing jellyfish poison for pain control. It's affects the nerves, and stops pain. They may be able to do away with opiates for some types of pain. It looks promising.
 

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