Prostitution laws to be decided by Supreme Court on Friday


SLM
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Prostitution laws to be decided by Supreme Court on Friday

By Daniel Proussalidis ,Parliamentary Bureau First posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 04:56 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, December 19, 2013 05:01 PM EST

OTTAWA — The Supreme Court of Canada is poised to hand down a ruling Friday that could rip up the nation's prostitution laws.
The decision follows a constitutional challenge started by three women, including dominatrix and former prostitute Terri Jean Bedford.
Bedford has said she's fighting for freedom and personal safety.
"We have every right to protect ourselves. We have every right to have sex with who we want, when we want, wherever we want," Bedford said at a June rally in Toronto.
Bedford and her team appealed an Ontario Court of Appeal's decision in March to uphold the ban on communicating for the purpose of prostitution.
The federal and Ontario governments appealed two other parts of the decision — striking down the law against brothels, and limiting the ban on living off the avails of prostitutions to cases of exploitation.
Since their June hearing, Supreme Court justices have had to grapple with a key question — whether the laws endanger prostitutes by forcing them to walk the streets, violating their charter right to personal security.
Ontario's government has argued that prostitution is by its nature dangerous, so hookers' "personal choices to engage in particular commercial activities" don't automatically get Charter protection.
Others took a different approach before the court.
Citing studies by the RCMP, legal scholar Catharine McKinnon and University of Rhode Island professor Donna Hughes, the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada argued before the high court that there is "a high degree of correlation between the legalization of prostitution related activities and an increase in human trafficking."

Prostitution laws to be decided by Supreme Court on Friday | Canada | News | Ottawa Sun

I'd be interested to see those RCMP studies because I would think the more open and transparent, the less likely the criminal element would get their hands into it. It could be an interesting Friday.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Let's hope it gets struck down.
 
MHz
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That Judge is hot.
 
Sal
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Quote:

"a high degree of correlation between the legalization of prostitution related activities and an increase in human trafficking.

if prostitution is legal why would that increase human trafficking...the women would then be working for themselves instead of the bike gang who currently control it
 
petros
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Bike gangs?
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Bike gangs?

has prostitution control altered?
 
petros
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Nope. The TV version lack merit.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Nope. The TV version lack merit.

I have no idea what that means.
 
petros
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The biker thing I just on TV. 7th and Robinson where I live is the stroll. I've lived here14 years and have never seen a biker or Asian pimping.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The biker thing I just on TV. 7th and Robinson where I live is the stroll. I've lived here14 years and have never seen a biker or Asian pimping.

Bikers controlled much of the trade through the strip clubs. At least they used to here in Ontario. I don't know anything about 7th and Robinson. That is why I asked if the control had changed. If so perhaps you can explain how it has shifted and who now controls the girls.

I don't know what TV has to do with this or what you have been watching or how that fits in here. It's quite often difficult to interpret two or three word posts since they are essentially cryptic and open to wide interpretation.

even a quick google ties drugs, prostitution and bikers together

things may have changed greatly since I had more first hand knowledge
 
petros
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The vast majority work for themselves.
 
Sparrow
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If there were no clients there would be NO prostitues.
 
spaminator
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if women would just keep men empty there would be no need for prostitutes.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The vast majority work for themselves.

hm, really...are you speaking specifically about the young street kids maybe and not the trade specifically?

when I was in retail there was a club across the road from one of the stores ...big fat guy with a stetson ran his girls from there

in another forum I was in. one of the girls stripped in a club near Ottawa, it was gang controlled, in fact she got threated by another forum member who was a biker ... we did not know what was going on until she explained it all to us... it got ugly

that's interesting that prostitutes in Canada mostly work for themselves...

Also a quick google on gangs shows prostitution to be a part of gang crime
 
petros
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Pimps are so 80s.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Pimps are so 80s.

interesting... so then gangs are no longer involved and the girls all work for themselves...hm...who knew...

wouldn't that also mean there is no such thing as human trafficking any more...
 
petros
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escorts and strip mall rubs n tugs are no different
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

escorts and strip mall rubs n tugs are no different

what does that mean? no different than what?

I don't know anything about this industry...
 
petros
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Pimps are a thing of the past. To control them, you keep the in debt with dope better than what is on the streets.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Pimps are a thing of the past. To control them, you keep the in debt with dope better than what is on the streets.

so then who is controlling them by drugs by keeping them in debt and what is the role of gangs and who would then be doing the human trafficking

hey there's a show on right now about pimping run out of escort services... I think it still exists according to this story

this girl was making 50,000 a week...holy crap

It's a documentary called "Addicted to the life"
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

if prostitution is legal why would that increase human trafficking...the women would then be working for themselves instead of the bike gang who currently control it

Why are you excluding men. Why can't the law apply to me? I still have the bone structure, I could be working too, you know.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Why are you excluding men. Why can't the law apply to me? I still have the bone structure, I could be working too, you know.

actually there are males in the trade, wash out your thongs, shave your body and pump some iron... you too could make 50. bucks....er, 50,000. a week.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Why are you excluding men. Why can't the law apply to me? I still have the bone structure, I could be working too, you know.

I can see it now. "Hey Baby looking for a date... Or a lesson on how the Zionists are controlling everything. Hey? Where are you going? Are you a Jew? Come back bitch!"
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by SparrowView Post

If there were no clients there would be NO prostitues.

Thats the same with any service. Unlike most other services this one will always be in demand for as long as our species exists. Thats why it is still around all over the world legal or not. If these laws are not struck down prostitution will not disappear or get smaller. The status quo will remain. The status quo was what allowed people like Robert Picton to be on the lose for as long as he was which is unacceptable.

I hope the laws are struck down. People should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Human trafficking and slavery will remain illegal. Enforce those laws to stop people from forcing others into this life - and leave those who chose it alone.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

I can see it now. "Hey Baby looking for a date... Or a lesson on how the Zionists are controlling everything. Hey? Where are you going? Are you a Jew? Come back bitch!"

You're just jealous cuz I could make lots of money with my fleshy things.
 
damngrumpy
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Since the beginning of time booze drugs and sex have been the target of
government legislation and it has not worked. Perhaps its time to make
it open to scrutiny and allow it to take place like all other vices in society
 
darkbeaver
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We're trying to have it designated a service. We can't call it a bloody vice at the same time. That would defeat the intent.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The vast majority work for themselves.

What's your street name?
The biggest brothel areas are near military bases.

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Since the beginning of time booze drugs and sex have been the target of
government legislation and it has not worked. Perhaps its time to make
it open to scrutiny and allow it to take place like all other vices in society

I thought it was so popular that making it a black market item profits would triple over what it would be if it was like any other profession.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

That Judge is hot.

MHZ I think you need glasses. LOL...

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

MHZ I think you need glasses. LOL...

There will always be prostitution. An open legal brothel is far safer for a female or male than street walking. Besides, we could use that policing elsewhere.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Prostitution laws to be decided by Supreme Court on Friday

Someone actually pays money to fukk this beast??

The client must be...

 

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