Muslim History 101

[Locutus]

This is what the fight is all about: In the center of Jerusalem is the sacred structure which the Jews label as the Temple Mount, and the Arabs refer to as the Haram al-Sharif (the noble sanctuary) and Al-Aqsa (the farthest Mosque). A mere 35 acres; yet touch it, and the Ummah [the Islamic homeland] will go to war.

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So who has the better claim?

Ignoring the issue of political sovereignty, let us focus solely on which religion has the greater claim to that sacred space.
According to the Quran, at one time all of mankind was Muslim; and all men had apostasized into error.

Surah 42:13 ... He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus
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However, mankind corrupted the message of Islam; and so Allah raised up one last messenger. Allah sent Jibreel (Gabriel) to a man named Mohammed to restore the original truth to the Arabs, which they were to bring to the world through jihad.

Quran 66:9 Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers ...


According to Islam, since mankind was originally Muslim, all places of true worship must have originally been a mosque.
This is the reason that Muslim Arabs claim justification in taking the sacred areas of whatever lands they seize, and restoring the buildings to what they perceive as their original service to Allah. The "Temple Area" in Jerusalem became the Al-Aqsa (farthest) Mosque, in the city, now renamed Al Quds. Constantinople's Christian Hagia Sofia was defaced and dedicated to Islam. The Hindu Temple of Rama in Ayohya, India destroyed and rebuilt as the Babri Mosque. [The Hindus finally seized it back in 1992] One can only begin to imagine what may soon happen to Notre Dame in Paris.


Against the myths of Islam, Jewish claims are based on history, first person accounts, archeology, and the Bible. The Jews have an embarrassment of riches from which to make their claim to the Mount.


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http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/muslim_history_101.html#ixzz2c3G6z7cF

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[Goober]

Mohammed originally prayed towards Jerusalem.
And according to another groups belief, Earth rests on a turtle,which rests on top of another and so on and on and on.........................

 

[hunboldt]

This is what the fight is all about: In the center of Jerusalem is the sacred structure which the Jews label as the Temple Mount, and the Arabs refer to as the Haram al-Sharif (the noble sanctuary) and Al-Aqsa (the farthest Mosque). A mere 35 acres; yet touch it, and the Ummah [the Islamic homeland] will go to war.​

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Against the myths of Islam, Jewish claims are based on history, first person accounts, archeology, and the Bible. The Jews have an embarrassment of riches from which to make their claim to the Mount.


more


http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/muslim_history_101.html#ixzz2c3G6z7cF


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Extremist heebs are the mirror image of Jihadis - with ten times the whining.

 

[EagleSmack]

Extremist heebs are the mirror image of Jihadis - with ten times the whining.

 

[hunboldt]

That sums it. The site was levelled by - King David, when he captured it from the Jebusites. it was a Shrine to Baal of Canaan.
The site was a ruined Byzantine church when Caliph Omar took Jerusalem in 630 AD.

Maybe the Radical Rabbis should sue Vespasian...

 

[hunboldt]

Jerusalem history 12 - First Jewish Revolt

 

[damngrumpy]

Actually it is the epitamy of a family feud. The ten tribes of Israel remember that
whole story. Well the world was not all Muslim thank whoever. But then the world
was not all Jewish either and the Old Testament in the beginning the great flood and
all that really came from Babylon as a copied story from ten thousand years before.
So both the Jewish version and that of the Arabs starts with the premise of a lie.
nothing good can come from that either.
These cousins have been fighting each other since before the rest of the modern
world existed as an entity. We fund their stupid ideology and inhumanity toward
each other and nothing good will come from that either.

 

[hunboldt]

Jeddah, Then Hejaz, now Saudi Arabia. Women's dress, 1870's

The Dome of the Rock has been continuously occupied by Muslims for nearly 1400 years, which is twice as long as any Jewish possession of Jerusalem - including all three temples. Let it be.

 

[petros]

Actually it is the epitamy of a family feud. The ten tribes of Israel remember that
whole story.

Thirteen but whose counting?

 

[hunboldt]

Thirteen but whose counting?

DG is counting the ten lost tribes of Israel, Nine originals plus Mel Brooks' Indians..

 

[petros]

Too bad all those tribes converted to Christianity.

 

[hunboldt]

This is what the fight is all about: In the center of Jerusalem is the sacred structure which the Jews label as the Temple Mount, and the Arabs refer to as the Haram al-Sharif (the noble sanctuary) and Al-Aqsa (the farthest Mosque). A mere 35 acres; yet touch it, and the Ummah [the Islamic homeland] will go to war.​

world through jihad.

Quran 66:9 Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers ...


Quds. Constantinople's Christian Hagia Sofia was defaced and dedicated to Islam. The Hindu Temple of Rama in Ayohya, India destroyed and rebuilt as the Babri Mosque. [The Hindus finally seized it back in 1992] One can only begin to imagine what may soon happen to Notre Dame in Paris.





http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/muslim_history_101.html#ixzz2c3G6z7cF


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So these guys get the Mount as a compromise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba_people

 

[DaSleeper]

DG is counting the ten lost tribes of Israel, Nine originals plus Mel Brooks' Indians..

Still better than Obama and 58 states;-)

 

[hunboldt]

Actually it is the epitamy of a family feud. The ten tribes of Israel remember that
whole story. Well the world was not all Muslim thank whoever. But then the world
was not all Jewish either and the Old Testament in the beginning the great flood and
all that really came from Babylon as a copied story from ten thousand years before.
So both the Jewish version and that of the Arabs starts with the premise of a lie.
nothing good can come from that either.
These cousins have been fighting each other since before the rest of the modern
world existed as an entity. We fund their stupid ideology and inhumanity toward
each other and nothing good will come from that either.

Hosanna Lutheran Church- Houston Texas- Home Page, Put together by the Evangelical Lutheran church, is a rather fair description of the history of Jerusalem..

Most of the third temple sites are 'cheapo webs" Mike Konrad's American Thinker is the best of a really bad bunch.

Konrad seems a little 'crazed'. the 'Third temple types' are real Freud Cases. 90% at least of Jews regard them as a painful embarrassment.

 

[hunboldt]

1. Hosanna Lutheran Church- Houston Texas- Home Page, Put together by the Evangelical Lutheran church, is a rather fair description of the history of Jerusalem..

Most of the third temple sites are 'cheapo webs" Mike Konrad's American Thinker is the best of a really bad bunch.

Konrad seems a little 'crazed'. the 'Third temple types' are real Freud Cases. 90% at least of Jews regard them as a painful embarrassment.

VZ:
Question: Please explain all this business about animal sacrifices in the Temple. Are you really planning to re-initiate this at some point?
Answer: Cain and Abel made vegetable and animal sacrifices. Noah made animal sacrifices. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—all highly enlightened people—made animal sacrifices. And the Torah prescribes a whole slew of sacrifices to be made in the Tabernacle in the desert, and then later in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem. And guess what? In our prayers, for the past 2,000 years, weve been asking for G‑d to let us rebuild that Temple so that we can start doing those sacrifices, just like He asked us to. So there’s got to be something deep going on here, more than meets the eye.

Are You Really Planning to Bring Back those Animal Sacrifices? - Tisha B'Av and the 3 Weeks

yep- l;ets go to the NewJew temple to watch selected pure cows 'burnt to a crisp' to make 'holy ashes'. G-d just loves bad bar-be ques....

 

[Nuggler]

completely logical

it's all completely logical

think about it

completely logical

oh for sure

makes sense

enough to go to war for

logical

completely logical

8O.........we used to have smilies that jumped up and down and would fit nicely here..........boing boing boing...........

logical.

 

[Dixie Cup]

I'm guessing the word "share" isn't in either religion's vocabulary as evidenced in history lol. Sigh.....

 

[hunboldt]

I'm guessing the word "share" isn't in either religion's vocabulary as evidenced in history lol. Sigh.....

Unfortunately, bulldozer research tends to rule in the Holy Land...
What is Beneath the Temple Mount? | History & Archaeology | Smithsonian Magazine

However, the second and and a half temple had vanished for over 500 years when Caliph Omar ordered the Dome of the Rock. the site was 'dechristianized by the Persian invasion of 605 AD. Can't blame the Muzzies for 'urban renewal' this time...

 

[ShintoMale]

the temple mount complex was a roman temple during the time of King Herod

 

[BaalsTears]

That sums it. The site was levelled by - King David, when he captured it from the Jebusites. it was a Shrine to Baal of Canaan.
The site was a ruined Byzantine church when Caliph Omar took Jerusalem in 630 AD.

Maybe the Radical Rabbis should sue Vespasian...

Baal is the legitimate owner of the so-called Temple Mount. When Baal owned the place it was a roadhouse managed by a guy named Bertie. It was like heaven.