
The morally bankrupt can't fathom chivalry, let alone understand how someone may actually be chivalrous.
World English Dictionary
chivalry (ˈʃɪvəlrɪ) — n , pl -ries 1. the combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, esp courage, honour, justice, and a readiness to help the weak 2. courteous behaviour, esp towards women 3. the medieval system and principles of knighthood 4. knights, noblemen, etc, collectively [C13: from Old French chevalerie, from chevalier ] 'chivalric — adj

I'm too humanist to care what gender is doing the hitting.... No one should be hitting anyone, and if you start something, you should expect your opponent to fight back.

...and some 'quiet' time in opposite corners (noses in) for the benefit
of the other folks on that bus, and future peoples that might have to
interact with either one.

This Cleveland RTA driver looked to be 220+ pounds, and he hits this lady in the face like she was a man. All he had to do was remove her off the bus, he didn't have to continue to fight her. This is way out of control anger, and not self defense as the women only hit him once and didn't continue to attack, and she should be charged.
He is the supposed to be the professional here and he antagonizes her by saying she was ugly and her face was all cut up.
Also, the bus company should also be responsible for the drivers safety here, the girl was able to assault him.. why??
They do have bus driver cages.. not a very good Union. In a post 9/11 setting I am surprised that more bus companies do not protect their drivers better.


The moron bus driver was acting completely non-professional before he ever got hit, running his mouth and instigating a reaction from the girl. He didn't seem mentally stable or at all at a functional level to driving a bus. He says "You're going to jail now" than proceeds to commit assault on the woman.

Oh. it's understood quite well by those with and without morals.
I understand completely that some people are just misogynists that love to hide behind more friendly sounding words.
Um when you stand up off your seat and move toward someone and uppercut them in the face, that doesn't equate even remotely to self-defense.

Bear can justify any of his bad behaviour.
Cause 2 wrongs make a right in his head.

Actually, dummy, it's cannuck that is trying to justify a bad behavior. However, with your limited comprehension skills, I can see how you missed that. Or are you onside with cannuck on this and feel that there are justifications for beating on a woman?

Oh there are quite a few justifications there G. If some chick has a knife or a gun or baton or other weapon and is about to do harm to me or my family there is a high likelyhood she will be in need of a dentist shortly afterward. You, my friend, can take a bullet and watch your wife get shot too so as to keep your 'morals' in tact. Me, I'm knocking her out cold and making sure she ain't getting up soon.
What about women in combat roles as is becoming more prevalent in western societies? Are you saying in a wartime combat situation you would not engage in hand-to-hand combat just because it was a woman? What would you do...surrender?

Actually, dummy, it's cannuck that is trying to justify a bad behavior. However, with your limited comprehension skills, I can see how you missed that. Or are you onside with cannuck on this and feel that there are justifications for beating on a woman?

I respectfully disagree. She stepped forward once already, there was no indication that she wasn't going to do it again. I believe remaining sitting would have been a foolish way to defend oneself.

Also, you will note that the driver yelled " you are going to jail". This sounds more like he is exercising his right to perform a citizen's arrest. It doesn't sound like he was defending himself. My point? Anyone that takes a swing at someone sitting down, can expect the arresting citizen to take the next swing unless they get down on their knees or make some sort of declaration that they are surrendering.

Bear can justify any of his bad behaviour.
Cause 2 wrongs make a right in his head.

wow look at that one fly right over your head. Swooosh.
Sorry gerryh you have no idea. lol

LOL...missing the point as usual. Nowhere have I said the drivers actions were acceptable. My view is that gender is irrelevant to whether the actions are acceptable or not. That is where we disagree.