Annexation of Canada to the United States of America.


View Poll Results: 51% of Canadians voted YES to join USA.
Would ou fight for Canadian Sovereignty, by any means.. 18 58.06%
Leave Canada 2 6.45%
Nope, join the USA and spread butt cheeks 2 6.45%
other.. 9 29.03%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

Bill123
#121
Quote: Originally Posted by cheezyView Post

the short form is that the south realized they didn't really need the north....their agrarian based economy was capable of operating without assistance from the north....it wasn't about abolitionists at all. slavery had to end, whether anyone liked it or not. the world was growing less tolerant of it every day.

Start by reading the Causes of Secession of the Southern states, the states' individual documents stating their reasons for seceding.

Mississippi even admitted that it could not survive without racist slavery because its white people could not withstand in the hot sun, and so they were forced to secede to preserve slavery.

This is real history from the real documents, Cheezy -- not some dreamed-up kid story. Every state listed SLAVERY front and center as the reason to secede, bar none.

This from the Constitution of the Confederate States should convince you that you are 180 degrees wrong in your thinking:

ARTICLE 1, Secton 9, Subsection 4:

No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

That was the BASIS of the Confederacy. That completely contradicts your claims. The South seceded over slavery. The white racists were too lazy to work in the sun, and they valued slavery so highly that the codified it in perpetuum et unum diem, so that the law could never be repealed.

Search it for yourself. Read the genuine secession documents. You need to educate yourself about the real motives of the Southerners, in their own words, before you start preaching foolishness to Canadians and to yourself.
 
L Gilbert
+1
#122
I voted "other". I don't think Canada needs another province. Let the States have their own country.
 
ABconservative
#123
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Annexation.ca

O.K. this is an interesting topic.. Annexation of Canada to the United States of America, of course without bloodshed..

I don't know, how many CC Members here, if Canada had a vote today to join the United States today and 51% of Canadians voted YES!!!

Who here would pick up arms to fight for Canada sovereignty? With a gun if necessary?

If Canada had equal representation with the United States it would be a great union between two great nations. One problem would be the lack of Canadian strength in the military high command as well as the US military being moved into Canada with establishment of new more frequent bases. The US debt will eventually come down and so will Canada's. This will also create the problem of equal representation between the 10 provinces and 50 states. Of which the Alberta is ten times as big as a state like Oregon. Hence we would have ten times the representation. So yeah.
 
L Gilbert
+4
#124
Quote: Originally Posted by ABconservativeView Post

If Canada had equal representation with the United States it would be a great union between two great nations. One problem would be the lack of Canadian strength in the military high command as well as the US military being moved into Canada with establishment of new more frequent bases. The US debt will eventually come down and so will Canada's. This will also create the problem of equal representation between the 10 provinces and 50 states. Of which the Alberta is ten times as big as a state like Oregon. Hence we would have ten times the representation. So yeah.

roflmao

Pop. of AB is 3.65 million. Pop. of OR is 3.87 million. Representation doesn't go by area.

"Whatta maroon" - B. Bunny
 
JLM
+1
#125
Quote: Originally Posted by ABconservativeView Post

If Canada had equal representation with the United States it would be a great union between two great nations. One problem would be the lack of Canadian strength in the military high command as well as the US military being moved into Canada with establishment of new more frequent bases. The US debt will eventually come down and so will Canada's. This will also create the problem of equal representation between the 10 provinces and 50 states. Of which the Alberta is ten times as big as a state like Oregon. Hence we would have ten times the representation. So yeah.

Well, 21/2 times!
 
B00Mer
#126
WTF? Bill123, nice necro.. geeezzzz

I think with the way the US economy is and as bad as the Florida housing marketing remains, maybe Canada should buy Florida. I mean in the winter there are more Canadians (snowbirds) than US citizens in Florida..

All joking aside.. I think people tend to forget that a LOT of Canadians hate the United States and would never stand for the USA trying to Annex Canada as a state.

USA is broke as a joke, and could not fight another war.
Last edited by B00Mer; Jul 16th, 2012 at 07:04 PM..
 
L Gilbert
#127
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

I think people tend to forget that a LOT of Canadians hate the United States and would never stand for the USA trying to Annex Canada as a state.

Yeah, but what about Canuckville annexing the States? I really like WY, OR, CO, parts of MT, TX, and NM of the states I have been to..
 
B00Mer
#128
Nah, just Wyoming, California, Arizona, Texas and Florida.. oh, yeah Nevada..

Those are my favs. The rest, not so much.
 
L Gilbert
+1
#129
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Nah, just Wyoming, California, Arizona, Texas and Florida.. oh, yeah Nevada..

Those are my favs. The rest, not so much.

ok, I can allow for Cali, FL, AZ, and NV if you allow for NM, TX, OR, CO and MT.
Ah, screw it, let's just annex the western states and FL..
 
B00Mer
#130
yeah... just keep looking over your shoulder... it's a nice joke now.. but the future may be not so funny. (read article)

Lost States: 4 in 10 Americans want to annex Canada

The 60 star flag



very well-administered poll by Leger Marketing of Montreal found that nearly four in 10 Americans favor annexing Canada. So should we get ready to fly a 60-star flag (ABOVE)? Not quite yet. The same poll found only 2 in 10 Canadians wanted to join the U.S. That statistic makes it seem like Canadians have a low opinion of the U.S.--then again, nearly 60 percent of our northern neighbors are in favor of adopting the U.S. dollar as their national currency. Yes, you read that right... they like our money, but don't want to become citizens. That's kinda like the boyfriend who wants all the privileges of living together, but doesn't want to get married. C'mon Canadians, time to commit. And if you don't want to lose your unique culture, maybe we should join you. Yeah, if Canada annexes the U.S., then America's huge national debt would go "poof" because there would be no America. (Enough silly ranting... but do check out the poll here)
 
L Gilbert
+1
#131
I ain't movin an I ain't becoming a US citizen. Besides, like it says at the tail end of that, "Yeah, if Canada annexes the U.S., then America's huge national debt would go "poof" because there would be no America." That idea has its merits.

AK, Mexico, and central America next?
 
JLM
#132
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

ok, I can allow for Cali, FL, AZ, and NV if you allow for NM, TX, OR, CO and MT.
Ah, screw it, let's just annex the western states and FL..

No Way Florida! Alaska is a far better choice.
 
L Gilbert
#133
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

No Way Florida! Alaska is a far better choice.

Well, if seas rise much, much of FL will be an underwater museum anyway. I see no harm. Besides, I like Cuban and Puerto Rican food.
 
taxslave
#134
I still like Cascadia, But first California has to shed some debt.
 
BaalsTears
#135
Canada should avoid further political entanglement with America unless Canada wishes to adopt the political and economic culture of Mexico. Let this be a warning from an American who loves his country.
 
B00Mer
#136
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Canada should avoid further political entanglement with America unless Canada wishes to adopt the political and economic culture of Mexico. Let this be a warning from an American who loves his country.



Be nice, we'll burn down your White House again if you're not careful.
 
BaalsTears
#137
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post



Be nice, we'll burn down your White House again if you're not careful.

Lots of Americans would be glad to help you burn down the White House. Why would Canada want to get involved with a country as deeply divided as America? America is going over the cliff. The best thing Canada can do is to save itself.
 
B00Mer
#138
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Lots of Americans would be glad to help you burn down the White House. Why would Canada want to get involved with a country as deeply divided as America? America is going over the cliff. The best thing Canada can do is to save itself.

War of 1812, Canada burned down the White House and seized Detroit.. wasn't look for same philological discussion on the U.S. state of economy..

You have a President in power that wants to shape the USA more like Canada, universal health care, better and cheaper education, hopefully a better economy.

Then you have a runner up (Romney) that is pro-business, I guess that's good in some ways if he could only quit sending US jobs to Mexico and China, he also likes Universal Health Care too. and his state still has it.. it hasn't been repealed.

Personally, I choose neither..

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You guys are in for another 4 years of decline. Obama is a politician, not a leader like Reagan was.. and Romney is "business as usual" which is not to help the American people, rather help himself and his rich businesses buddies.

Media shut out Ron Paul. Sure he has some wacky ideas, but so did the founders the USA to many people..

http://www.ronpaul2012.com
 
Toro
#139
That would be a good idea. It's a pain going through customs.
 
relic
#140
I can't believe there are 4 in 10 americans that know where Canada is.
 
Cabbagesandking
#141
Quote: Originally Posted by relicView Post

I can't believe there are 4 in 10 americans that know where Canada is.

I wonder whether that many know where America is!
 
taxslave
#142
Quote: Originally Posted by relicView Post

I can't believe there are 4 in 10 americans that know where Canada is.

I'm amazed there are that many as well.
 
JLM
#143
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

I'm amazed there are that many as well.

What do you mean? They all know it is toward the North Pole!
 
BaalsTears
#144
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

War of 1812, Canada burned down the White House and seized Detroit.. wasn't look for same philological discussion on the U.S. state of economy..

Proto-Canada didn't burn down the White House or seize Detroit. It was the British Empire that did so. It was also the British Empire that lost the war on the Great Lakes and at the Battle of New Orleans. The War of I812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars.

Quote:

You have a President in power that wants to shape the USA more like Canada, universal health care, better and cheaper education, hopefully a better economy.

No he doesn't. He wants to pursue a policy of statist crony capitalism at home, and interventionism abroad.

Quote:

Then you have a runner up (Romney) that is pro-business, I guess that's good in some ways if he could only quit sending US jobs to Mexico and China, he also likes Universal Health Care too. and his state still has it.. it hasn't been repealed.

Romney is a collaborator. As such I dismiss him.

***

Quote:

You guys are in for another 4 years of decline. Obama is a politician, not a leader like Reagan was.. and Romney is "business as usual" which is not to help the American people, rather help himself and his rich businesses buddies.

American decline is going to last much longer than another four years.

***
 
B00Mer
#145
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Proto-Canada didn't burn down the White House or seize Detroit. It was the British Empire that did so. It was also the British Empire that lost the war on the Great Lakes and at the Battle of New Orleans. The War of I812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars.

I hate when people try to separate Canada from our British ancestry. Canada was part of the British Empire between 1763 - 1867. Yet we were still a country..

Would you like me to rephrase it Upper Canada and Lower Canada, kicked the US's ***.

War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Cabbagesandking
#146
America won the war only in the sense that Britain was too busy to give it undivided attention and, therefore, could not retake the USA as it might well have done since the upstart was pushing too hard.
 
CDNBear
#147
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

I hate when people try to separate Canada from our British ancestry. Canada was part of the British Empire between 1763 - 1867. Yet we were still a country..

Would you like me to rephrase it Upper Canada and Lower Canada, kicked the US's ***.

War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It wouldn't make a difference. They were still British, conquered French, and First Nations, lol.

Quote: Originally Posted by CabbagesandkingView Post

America won the war only in the sense that Britain was too busy to give it undivided attention and, therefore, could not retake the USA as it might well have done since the upstart was pushing too hard.

LOL.
 
wulfie68
+2
#148
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

I hate when people try to separate Canada from our British ancestry. Canada was part of the British Empire between 1763 - 1867. Yet we were still a country..

Would you like me to rephrase it Upper Canada and Lower Canada, kicked the US's ***.

War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hate it all you like but the fact remains that the soldiers defending His Majesties colonies were not, for the most part, the residents of those same colonies. British regulars, like General Brock, came across the pond. The natives that fought with the British, under the leadership of Tecumseh were from hundreds of miles away, in what was not and never has been Canadian soil. The local militias played support roles at best.
 
BaalsTears
+1
#149
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

I hate when people try to separate Canada from our British ancestry. Canada was part of the British Empire between 1763 - 1867. Yet we were still a country..

Would you like me to rephrase it Upper Canada and Lower Canada, kicked the US's ***.

War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canadian consciousness as a people had not emerged at the time. The people who really fought hardest against the Americans during the War of 1812 were fellow Americans exiled after the Revolutionary War. And I don't think they had a Canadian American Indians had a greater role in the War of 1812 than did any of the groups of people who would one day coalesce into the noble Canadian people. And that's the truth.

The Canadas produced some limited militia and other support roles for the Royal Army and Navy, but to attempt to steal British glory is unbecoming. America has fought French North America and British North America. During the American Revolutionary War some people of Lower Canada were symathetic with the Americans.

Since Canada started to take shaped as a nation our two countries have had very friendly relations. Even in the 1860s American started thinking of Canadians as separate from the British.

Do you remember the group I think are called the Fenians? They were Irish American Civil War veterans who had not been long out of combat. Some of them got organized and decided to take on the British in Canada. They marched to the border and fell under attack by both British and US forces.

In order to prove the truth of this post I hereby offer to wrestle any and all Canadian ladies between the ages of 18 and 68 and to figuratively bring them to Jesus. jk

Should read:

And I don't think they had a Canadian consciousness. American Indians had a greater role in the War of 1812 than did any of the groups of people who would one day coalesce into the noble Canadian people. And that's the truth.
 
B00Mer
+1
#150
I see you're from California.. is that the "American" version of your history books..

The Mohawks fought against the United States during the war of 1812, yeah.

Here is the Canadian version (wink) :

The Maple Leaf - Commemorating the War of 1812: Canada's role

http://www.1812.gc.ca/eng/1305654894724/1305655293741
 

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