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oceandeep

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For God so love the world, why did he allow the continuous power growth of the vatican and left majority of the people suffer?
 

gerryh

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I think I know where this is gonna go, but will sit back for a bit and let the rope out first.

trust me.... If this is going where I think it is going... you're gonna wish you didn't give me that thumbs up.
 

oceandeep

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i've already regret it before i gave my thumbs up....i'll just have to sit back and wait for a person's point of view....
 

gerryh

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well...why don't you put yours out there... or are you just trolling?
 

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For God so love the world, why did he allow the continuous power growth of the vatican and left majority of the people suffer?

Ah - Attack those dammed Christians I say. Never ever been discussed here before. You had a regular brainstorm to come up with that OP. Man we are so dumb, no one ever thought of that before. We are really in need of more intelligent OP's and are waiting patiently.

Please enlighten us.
 

gerryh

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Ok...I'll give my opinion... my opinion is that you are just another troll who enjoys bashing Christians. You go from forum to forum, bashing Christians untill you are banned and then move on to the next forum. Guess what, it ain't gonna work at this forum, I'll tear you a new one faster than you can type.
 

oceandeep

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Hey gerry, as what i used in my heading " my point of view " or should i better say it, a question that i want an answer from people here in the cc....i didn't oblige you to answer if you wereirritated by the fact that you pressumed i'm a troll or i'm just posting a senseless and provocative issue....i am christian but i don't practice it and i stopped going to church when i saw and realised that that if i really wanted for my soul to be saved, i should direct my prayers to God....If i did not made myselkf clear, then i don't think i owe you explanation since you've already judge me withour proper trial....Thank You anyway, for your thoughts.


Isn't it that the church and its deciples should focus solely on the empowerment of the spiritual aspects? then why they appear in most if not all government talks?
 

gerryh

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Isn't it that the church and its deciples should focus solely on the empowerment of the spiritual aspects? then why they appear in most if not all government talks?


and what government talks would that be?
 

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hey Niflmir..... thanks for that good word......i don't worry at all because afterall, it wasn't a provocative motive....i just want to know a person's point of view....but we cannot expect for good feedback always.
 

Niflmir

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hey Niflmir..... thanks for that good word......i don't worry at all because afterall, it wasn't a provocative motive....i just want to know a person's point of view....but we cannot expect for good feedback always.

You will always get the same answers. That is why I say to just look it up, no need to pretend that it is a debate. My view is that the Vatican is a corporation. If you view them like that, then everything else makes sense.
 

oceandeep

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You will always get the same answers. That is why I say to just look it up, no need to pretend that it is a debate. My view is that the Vatican is a corporation. If you view them like that, then everything else makes sense.
a very huge corporation....
 

Niflmir

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But yeah, to me that is a fundamental contradiction with the idea of a good god and with the way the world actually is. The typical Christian apologetics answer that I hear on the topic is that we do not understand the meaning of good. Which doesn't make any sense, seeing as we invented the concept of goodness.
 

Dexter Sinister

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For God so love the world, why did he allow the continuous power growth of the vatican and left majority of the people suffer?
It's not just the Vatican, no religion has ever produced an adequate explanation for human suffering. The simplest explanation is that god is a human invention and has no reality except as an idea. That's my point of view.