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January 20th, 2008, 09:17 AM
Al Qaeda and the "War on Terrorism"
By Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, January 20, 2008
The following text was first published in Italian in: Giuletto Chiesa (Editor), Zero, Perché la versione ufficiale sull' 11/9 è un Falso [Zero: Why the Official Version on 9/11 is a Falsehood], Piemme, Casale Monferrato, 2007.
A detailed analysis of the relevant issues covered in this article is also contained in the author's book America’s "War on Terrorism", Global Research, 2005
Introduction
One of the main objectives of war propaganda is to "fabricate an enemy". The "outside enemy" personified by Osama bin Laden is "threatening America".
Pre-emptive war directed against "Islamic terrorists" is required to defend the Homeland. Realities are turned upside down. America is under attack.
In the wake of 9/11, the creation of this "outside enemy" has served to obfuscate the real economic and strategic objectives behind the war in the Middle East and Central Asia. Waged on the grounds of self-defense, the pre-emptive war is upheld as a "just war" with a humanitarian mandate.
As anti-war sentiment grows and the political legitimacy the Bush Administration falters, doubts regarding the existence of this illusive "outside enemy" must be dispelled.
Counter-terrorism and war propaganda are intertwined. The propaganda apparatus feeds disinformation into the news chain. The terror warnings must appear to be "genuine". The objective is to present the terror groups as "enemies of America."
Ironically, Al Qaeda --the "outside enemy of America" as well as the alleged architect of the 9/11 attacks-- is a creation of the CIA.
From the outset of the Soviet-Afghan war in the early 1980s, the US intelligence apparatus has supported the formation of the "Islamic brigades". Propaganda purports to erase the history of Al Qaeda, drown the truth and "kill the evidence" on how this "outside enemy" was fabricated and transformed into "Enemy Number One".
The US intelligence apparatus has created it own terrorist organizations. And at the same time, it creates its own terrorist warnings concerning the terrorist organizations which it has itself created. Meanwhile, a cohesive multibillion dollar counterterrorism program "to go after" these terrorist organizations has been put in place.
Portrayed in stylized fashion by the Western media, Osama bin Laden, supported by his various henchmen, constitutes America’s post-Cold war bogeyman, who "threatens Western democracy". The alleged threat of "Islamic terrorists", permeates the entire US national security doctrine. Its purpose is to justify wars of aggression in the Middle East, while establishing within America, the contours of the Homeland Security State.
Historical Background
What are the historical origins of Al Qaeda? Who is Osama bin Laden?
The alleged ma
Al Qaeda and the "War on Terrorism"
By Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, January 20, 2008
The following text was first published in Italian in: Giuletto Chiesa (Editor), Zero, Perché la versione ufficiale sull' 11/9 è un Falso [Zero: Why the Official Version on 9/11 is a Falsehood], Piemme, Casale Monferrato, 2007.
A detailed analysis of the relevant issues covered in this article is also contained in the author's book America’s "War on Terrorism", Global Research, 2005
Introduction
One of the main objectives of war propaganda is to "fabricate an enemy". The "outside enemy" personified by Osama bin Laden is "threatening America".
Pre-emptive war directed against "Islamic terrorists" is required to defend the Homeland. Realities are turned upside down. America is under attack.
In the wake of 9/11, the creation of this "outside enemy" has served to obfuscate the real economic and strategic objectives behind the war in the Middle East and Central Asia. Waged on the grounds of self-defense, the pre-emptive war is upheld as a "just war" with a humanitarian mandate.
As anti-war sentiment grows and the political legitimacy the Bush Administration falters, doubts regarding the existence of this illusive "outside enemy" must be dispelled.
Counter-terrorism and war propaganda are intertwined. The propaganda apparatus feeds disinformation into the news chain. The terror warnings must appear to be "genuine". The objective is to present the terror groups as "enemies of America."
Ironically, Al Qaeda --the "outside enemy of America" as well as the alleged architect of the 9/11 attacks-- is a creation of the CIA.
From the outset of the Soviet-Afghan war in the early 1980s, the US intelligence apparatus has supported the formation of the "Islamic brigades". Propaganda purports to erase the history of Al Qaeda, drown the truth and "kill the evidence" on how this "outside enemy" was fabricated and transformed into "Enemy Number One".
The US intelligence apparatus has created it own terrorist organizations. And at the same time, it creates its own terrorist warnings concerning the terrorist organizations which it has itself created. Meanwhile, a cohesive multibillion dollar counterterrorism program "to go after" these terrorist organizations has been put in place.
Portrayed in stylized fashion by the Western media, Osama bin Laden, supported by his various henchmen, constitutes America’s post-Cold war bogeyman, who "threatens Western democracy". The alleged threat of "Islamic terrorists", permeates the entire US national security doctrine. Its purpose is to justify wars of aggression in the Middle East, while establishing within America, the contours of the Homeland Security State.
Historical Background
What are the historical origins of Al Qaeda? Who is Osama bin Laden?
The alleged ma
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January 20th, 2008, 09:59 AM
Darkbeaver
When you cultivate a population to embrace the notion that "happiness" is "ownership" whether that's a house you can't afford but are granted "credit" to purchase or a car that is made necessary by building an economic system that is interwoven with the greed and self-interests of the wealthy, you create a climate of vulnerability. Vulnerability to accept that what you wear and what you drive is more representative of who and what you are than your actions beliefs and behaviors. You convince the masses that they "need" an electric dryer to dry their clothing and that "clotheslines" are distasteful and a blemish on the cookie-cutter sububan enclaves of the drones who feed your business enterprise. You encourage investment in fantasy like patriotism without tolerance, compassion reduced to return on investment dollars. Entertainment aggrandizes violence and the gangster is accorded mythic hero-status. You dress your young children like Hollywood starlets and parade them down runways to garner fame and fortune. You invest in hero worship building sports celebrities enhanced by drugs and while the coliseum of lions eating Christians is gone, the hardwood courts of basketball and the frozen surface of arenas become the new coliseums. You facilitate a bond with the automobile and create a milestone of the obtaining of a "drivers licence", your governments refute moral standards and even when billions are stolen, the guilty go free becasue they are the model of your financial and moral turpitude. People are conditioned to accept lies as 'normal' and engage in the artifice of pretense, exhibiting wealth they don't actually own, but is granted under the aegis of maintaining the myth of prosperity...to only now and then have the whole thing blow up in your face....
You require enemies to fight, to reduce the child population by sending your young people off to fight in worthless senseless wars, to reinforce the ersatz patriotism that supposedly springs from ideas like "a nation of laws" and subscription to planetary agreements to preserve and protect. Agreements which when no longer useful to your endeavour can be abandoned and sneered at as beneath the higher moral ground you occupy as you slaughter thousands directly and your inaction results in milllions dying because you have the means to make a difference and choose not to. You can celebrate your "success" and your "prosperity" by operating sweatshops and makeing "inferior" races your slaves and the object of your disdain and contempt while they work at jobs that you need to have accomplished but are beneath the entitled master race....
Great stuff this capitalism and democracy....
Darkbeaver
When you cultivate a population to embrace the notion that "happiness" is "ownership" whether that's a house you can't afford but are granted "credit" to purchase or a car that is made necessary by building an economic system that is interwoven with the greed and self-interests of the wealthy, you create a climate of vulnerability. Vulnerability to accept that what you wear and what you drive is more representative of who and what you are than your actions beliefs and behaviors. You convince the masses that they "need" an electric dryer to dry their clothing and that "clotheslines" are distasteful and a blemish on the cookie-cutter sububan enclaves of the drones who feed your business enterprise. You encourage investment in fantasy like patriotism without tolerance, compassion reduced to return on investment dollars. Entertainment aggrandizes violence and the gangster is accorded mythic hero-status. You dress your young children like Hollywood starlets and parade them down runways to garner fame and fortune. You invest in hero worship building sports celebrities enhanced by drugs and while the coliseum of lions eating Christians is gone, the hardwood courts of basketball and the frozen surface of arenas become the new coliseums. You facilitate a bond with the automobile and create a milestone of the obtaining of a "drivers licence", your governments refute moral standards and even when billions are stolen, the guilty go free becasue they are the model of your financial and moral turpitude. People are conditioned to accept lies as 'normal' and engage in the artifice of pretense, exhibiting wealth they don't actually own, but is granted under the aegis of maintaining the myth of prosperity...to only now and then have the whole thing blow up in your face....
You require enemies to fight, to reduce the child population by sending your young people off to fight in worthless senseless wars, to reinforce the ersatz patriotism that supposedly springs from ideas like "a nation of laws" and subscription to planetary agreements to preserve and protect. Agreements which when no longer useful to your endeavour can be abandoned and sneered at as beneath the higher moral ground you occupy as you slaughter thousands directly and your inaction results in milllions dying because you have the means to make a difference and choose not to. You can celebrate your "success" and your "prosperity" by operating sweatshops and makeing "inferior" races your slaves and the object of your disdain and contempt while they work at jobs that you need to have accomplished but are beneath the entitled master race....
Great stuff this capitalism and democracy....
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January 20th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Avro
And you'll happily believe what you're told right? You'll believe that the system that pushed the Americans into a space race was so inept and evil that millions didn't live decent lives. You'd believe that the corruption of the Kremlin or Bejing is tantamount to the failure of an entire system... While nearly fifty million Americans are denied health insurance and the literacy rate in America falls, as the systems of education and government are decaying faster than ever before, that the "system" you regard as your own is superior to that which you have only the propaganda and the lies of politicians and teachers to accept as evidence of their failure. As soon as petroleum became the "standard" that backed currency...not gold and not the production capacity of any single nation, but petroleum, the doors were opened to the same caliber of theives and liars in those socialist and communist states as are running these great democracies that are crumbling around you.
While the streets of foreign capitals and countrysides are decaying, a similar decay in the infrastructure of every "democratic" social organizing principle is occurring. While bridges collapse in poor nations and the hungry flood the streets, a similar sequence of events is happening right in the middle of all this "prosperity". Are you sure you're in a position to make an informed choice? Perhaps you forget that many of these evil empires rallied with Canada and the U.S. to fight fascism and prevent the destruction of not only their own systems but the systems you seem to feel are superior. You seem to forget that while half a billion North Americans are killing this planet faster than has ever been witnessed before that billions have lived in lands you've never visited and never seen. Maybe it's your appreciation for your pet-rock and your MP3 player that blinds you to the reality of this great democratic system that facilitates sweatshops and pays field workers three hundred dollars a year to harvest coffee beans.... It's almost as though the habits and behaviors of these monuments to fiscal prosperity you find so wonderful haven't played any role in creating the climate of distrust and oppression that has happened in countless places around the world. Maybe you forget that it wasn't Soviet Russia or China that set-up and established Suharto and Pinochet...maybe you think that the fight that left Haiti the poorest nation on earth was about something other than making sure that you had sugar on your cornflakes.... Maybe you believe that torture and unjust imprisionment are elements of those evil socialist empires and our great democracies wouldn't burn children to death in their homes like Waco or Philadelphia. Maybe the lavish care these democracies have spread on the natives of North America leads you to believe that poverty and hopelessness are imported from those nations you regard as bad. Maybe you're comfortable with the enslaving of the Chinese to build Canada's great highway and the subsequent "head-tax" loaded on their families that tried to join them. No doubt the years of McCarthysim and fear mongering we called the "Cold War" permitted you insight into the moral fabric of the governments you hail as so much greater. It's not as simple as all that my friend and that you believe that it is tells us something about your thinking and less about the reality you think you occupy.
Avro
And you'll happily believe what you're told right? You'll believe that the system that pushed the Americans into a space race was so inept and evil that millions didn't live decent lives. You'd believe that the corruption of the Kremlin or Bejing is tantamount to the failure of an entire system... While nearly fifty million Americans are denied health insurance and the literacy rate in America falls, as the systems of education and government are decaying faster than ever before, that the "system" you regard as your own is superior to that which you have only the propaganda and the lies of politicians and teachers to accept as evidence of their failure. As soon as petroleum became the "standard" that backed currency...not gold and not the production capacity of any single nation, but petroleum, the doors were opened to the same caliber of theives and liars in those socialist and communist states as are running these great democracies that are crumbling around you.
While the streets of foreign capitals and countrysides are decaying, a similar decay in the infrastructure of every "democratic" social organizing principle is occurring. While bridges collapse in poor nations and the hungry flood the streets, a similar sequence of events is happening right in the middle of all this "prosperity". Are you sure you're in a position to make an informed choice? Perhaps you forget that many of these evil empires rallied with Canada and the U.S. to fight fascism and prevent the destruction of not only their own systems but the systems you seem to feel are superior. You seem to forget that while half a billion North Americans are killing this planet faster than has ever been witnessed before that billions have lived in lands you've never visited and never seen. Maybe it's your appreciation for your pet-rock and your MP3 player that blinds you to the reality of this great democratic system that facilitates sweatshops and pays field workers three hundred dollars a year to harvest coffee beans.... It's almost as though the habits and behaviors of these monuments to fiscal prosperity you find so wonderful haven't played any role in creating the climate of distrust and oppression that has happened in countless places around the world. Maybe you forget that it wasn't Soviet Russia or China that set-up and established Suharto and Pinochet...maybe you think that the fight that left Haiti the poorest nation on earth was about something other than making sure that you had sugar on your cornflakes.... Maybe you believe that torture and unjust imprisionment are elements of those evil socialist empires and our great democracies wouldn't burn children to death in their homes like Waco or Philadelphia. Maybe the lavish care these democracies have spread on the natives of North America leads you to believe that poverty and hopelessness are imported from those nations you regard as bad. Maybe you're comfortable with the enslaving of the Chinese to build Canada's great highway and the subsequent "head-tax" loaded on their families that tried to join them. No doubt the years of McCarthysim and fear mongering we called the "Cold War" permitted you insight into the moral fabric of the governments you hail as so much greater. It's not as simple as all that my friend and that you believe that it is tells us something about your thinking and less about the reality you think you occupy.
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January 20th, 2008, 11:26 AM
Ask yourself, what is the real enemy of the powerfull and wealthy, and I think you'll see that democracy itself is the enemy of that clique as it has always been.
So if we believe in the Islamic Fundementalist threat like the rich want us to we'll end up helping them institute the fascist totalitarian state that they require for there safety and continuation.
Why are you reluctant to avail yourself of the information available and widely distributed on the internet? It takes a bit of reading but eventually you get a realistic picture of the conspiracy and the great age and scope of it. Controling and funding both side of a phoney war to obscure the real intent is not new either. What we will see quite soon I think is another horrific staged event with many times the deaths of 9/11 on continental U.S., this seems to be required to push consensus for the destruction of Iran, which in itself will fuel more Islamic hate of the west and further biuld the consensus in the west for a final solution of the Islamic problem, which in fact never existed. The only possible winners in any case will be the bankers who in fact own the western world and must remove the threat of democracy.
Anyway that's the way it is + or- 1% for the big picture.We will love them for thier determined defence of western values. It's a sick planet Avro, have a look arround while the net is still available, because it's sure to become very restricted, for our own good you understand.
Quoting Avro
No such expence was necessary was it? The invasion was a complete success wasn't it? I did not write the article Avro. The war proceeded more or less in accordance with well tried and proven strategic and tactical science, and continues following the well understood and historical methods of conducting war. There is no secret to any of that. The covert activitys are what pushes the visable surface effects. The oldest sophistication in war is to divide and conguer, this modern geopolitical adjustment is many years in conduct (about thirty) it was begun before many of the posters here were born, a continuation of shifting power that has no breaks far back into time. It's not about defeating Islamic Fundementalism, it's about maintaining it, and building it as more and more of a threat to western civilization untill the bankers have the support of the citizen to consolodate thier power under the new world order, all made possible by conspiracy. And there is nothing new in that, nothing at all.
If the war was a conspiracy as you say then they would have planted WMD's in Iraq and fabricated a link to Bin Laden.
Ask yourself, what is the real enemy of the powerfull and wealthy, and I think you'll see that democracy itself is the enemy of that clique as it has always been.
So if we believe in the Islamic Fundementalist threat like the rich want us to we'll end up helping them institute the fascist totalitarian state that they require for there safety and continuation.
Why are you reluctant to avail yourself of the information available and widely distributed on the internet? It takes a bit of reading but eventually you get a realistic picture of the conspiracy and the great age and scope of it. Controling and funding both side of a phoney war to obscure the real intent is not new either. What we will see quite soon I think is another horrific staged event with many times the deaths of 9/11 on continental U.S., this seems to be required to push consensus for the destruction of Iran, which in itself will fuel more Islamic hate of the west and further biuld the consensus in the west for a final solution of the Islamic problem, which in fact never existed. The only possible winners in any case will be the bankers who in fact own the western world and must remove the threat of democracy.
Anyway that's the way it is + or- 1% for the big picture.We will love them for thier determined defence of western values. It's a sick planet Avro, have a look arround while the net is still available, because it's sure to become very restricted, for our own good you understand.
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February 9th, 2008, 07:57 AM
It was virtually effortless for the Bush administration to convince Americans that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDs, the recent Republican nomination process simply continues this whitewash to include the notion that Al Queada was spawned out of Iraq and McCain will continue to mislead America into believeing that American actions in Iraq are much more responsible for the rise in terrorism world-wide than anything that came out of the Hussein dictatorship. It pleases me in a macabre kind of way to witness McCain actualize McGovernment in McMerica......
It was virtually effortless for the Bush administration to convince Americans that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDs, the recent Republican nomination process simply continues this whitewash to include the notion that Al Queada was spawned out of Iraq and McCain will continue to mislead America into believeing that American actions in Iraq are much more responsible for the rise in terrorism world-wide than anything that came out of the Hussein dictatorship. It pleases me in a macabre kind of way to witness McCain actualize McGovernment in McMerica......
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February 9th, 2008, 08:05 AM
President McCain will save the world, he's a heerow who single handed defeated the evil Viet Cong. He has stood on guard for American values in a tireless effort to win the hearts and minds of the underdogs of this world and bring them to the joys of capitalist democracy and the love of god. My heart is pounding with joy and hope, I think I peed myself.
President McCain will save the world, he's a heerow who single handed defeated the evil Viet Cong. He has stood on guard for American values in a tireless effort to win the hearts and minds of the underdogs of this world and bring them to the joys of capitalist democracy and the love of god. My heart is pounding with joy and hope, I think I peed myself.
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February 9th, 2008, 09:38 AM
It's very sad.
Quoting darkbeaver
Your problem is that you believe everything you read on the internet. There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their. People like you live for the negative and I have no idea how one lives their lives in constant fear like you do.
No such expence was necessary was it? The invasion was a complete success wasn't it? I did not write the article Avro. The war proceeded more or less in accordance with well tried and proven strategic and tactical science, and continues following the well understood and historical methods of conducting war. There is no secret to any of that. The covert activitys are what pushes the visable surface effects. The oldest sophistication in war is to divide and conguer, this modern geopolitical adjustment is many years in conduct (about thirty) it was begun before many of the posters here were born, a continuation of shifting power that has no breaks far back into time. It's not about defeating Islamic Fundementalism, it's about maintaining it, and building it as more and more of a threat to western civilization untill the bankers have the support of the citizen to consolodate thier power under the new world order, all made possible by conspiracy. And there is nothing new in that, nothing at all.
Ask yourself, what is the real enemy of the powerfull and wealthy, and I think you'll see that democracy itself is the enemy of that clique as it has always been.
So if we believe in the Islamic Fundementalist threat like the rich want us to we'll end up helping them institute the fascist totalitarian state that they require for there safety and continuation.
Why are you reluctant to avail yourself of the information available and widely distributed on the internet? It takes a bit of reading but eventually you get a realistic picture of the conspiracy and the great age and scope of it. Controling and funding both side of a phoney war to obscure the real intent is not new either. What we will see quite soon I think is another horrific staged event with many times the deaths of 9/11 on continental U.S., this seems to be required to push consensus for the destruction of Iran, which in itself will fuel more Islamic hate of the west and further biuld the consensus in the west for a final solution of the Islamic problem, which in fact never existed. The only possible winners in any case will be the bankers who in fact own the western world and must remove the threat of democracy.
Anyway that's the way it is + or- 1% for the big picture.We will love them for thier determined defence of western values. It's a sick planet Avro, have a look arround while the net is still available, because it's sure to become very restricted, for our own good you understand.
Ask yourself, what is the real enemy of the powerfull and wealthy, and I think you'll see that democracy itself is the enemy of that clique as it has always been.
So if we believe in the Islamic Fundementalist threat like the rich want us to we'll end up helping them institute the fascist totalitarian state that they require for there safety and continuation.
Why are you reluctant to avail yourself of the information available and widely distributed on the internet? It takes a bit of reading but eventually you get a realistic picture of the conspiracy and the great age and scope of it. Controling and funding both side of a phoney war to obscure the real intent is not new either. What we will see quite soon I think is another horrific staged event with many times the deaths of 9/11 on continental U.S., this seems to be required to push consensus for the destruction of Iran, which in itself will fuel more Islamic hate of the west and further biuld the consensus in the west for a final solution of the Islamic problem, which in fact never existed. The only possible winners in any case will be the bankers who in fact own the western world and must remove the threat of democracy.
Anyway that's the way it is + or- 1% for the big picture.We will love them for thier determined defence of western values. It's a sick planet Avro, have a look arround while the net is still available, because it's sure to become very restricted, for our own good you understand.
It's very sad.
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February 9th, 2008, 09:42 AM
That would mean something if support for the war right now isn't plumeting.
Of course McCain also supported the surge and unfortunately for you it is working something I didn't see coming.
Quoting MikeyDB
It was virtually effortless for the Bush administration to convince Americans that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDs, the recent Republican nomination process simply continues this whitewash to include the notion that Al Queada was spawned out of Iraq and McCain will continue to mislead America into believeing that American actions in Iraq are much more responsible for the rise in terrorism world-wide than anything that came out of the Hussein dictatorship. It pleases me in a macabre kind of way to witness McCain actualize McGovernment in McMerica......
That would mean something if support for the war right now isn't plumeting.
Of course McCain also supported the surge and unfortunately for you it is working something I didn't see coming.
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February 9th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Let's deconstruct sentence three of your little paragraph, with which you confuse my awareness for fear. This is revealing of your own thinking Avro, you are afraid of reality, it obviously makes you uncomfortable and you would rather attack me than consider changeing your own thinking, away from a position not supported by reality.
You say that you have no idea how I can stand to live in constant fear. As I already said you have awareness and fear confused because awareness constitutes fear to you then you assume it must also frighten me constantly, this is your problem which you attempt to transfer to me. "You have no idea" actually you have no comparable level of awareness with my own and this confounds your conventional wisdom. Now you should not take that as a dis because it's not, it simply means that we have different interests from different perspectives.
"There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their." This the middle sentence of your paragraph says it all. It is a demonstratable fact of history freely available to those who have an interest in such things, that you are unable to incorporate such a thought is not my problem either but it certainly is yours.Get yourself access to a university data bank and do some research.
Quite apart from your inability to understand a person 'like me" as you say and your own simple understanding of what is fear and what is awareness. I do perfectly understand how it is that someone like you can live in blissfull ignorance and be totally unaware of the connection between negative and positive. New-agers always get that wrong. You are a product of pop culture, fed lies and glitter since you were born, that parts not your fault but staying there is.
Now if you have anything else to discuss with me, I'm only to happy to discuss your disabilitys. respectfully DB
Quoting Avro
"Your problem", let's deconstruct your statement and see who actually has a problem, if in fact any problem exists. Now you maintain that because of my opinions based on interests and in the mechanisms and institutions of governance and industry that I have a problem. Is this true? No, quite obviously my opinions indicate an [interest] and nothing whatever of a personal problem.
Your problem is that you believe everything you read on the internet. There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their. People like you live for the negative and I have no idea how one lives their lives in constant fear like you do.
It's very sad.
It's very sad.
Let's deconstruct sentence three of your little paragraph, with which you confuse my awareness for fear. This is revealing of your own thinking Avro, you are afraid of reality, it obviously makes you uncomfortable and you would rather attack me than consider changeing your own thinking, away from a position not supported by reality.
You say that you have no idea how I can stand to live in constant fear. As I already said you have awareness and fear confused because awareness constitutes fear to you then you assume it must also frighten me constantly, this is your problem which you attempt to transfer to me. "You have no idea" actually you have no comparable level of awareness with my own and this confounds your conventional wisdom. Now you should not take that as a dis because it's not, it simply means that we have different interests from different perspectives.
"There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their." This the middle sentence of your paragraph says it all. It is a demonstratable fact of history freely available to those who have an interest in such things, that you are unable to incorporate such a thought is not my problem either but it certainly is yours.Get yourself access to a university data bank and do some research.
Quite apart from your inability to understand a person 'like me" as you say and your own simple understanding of what is fear and what is awareness. I do perfectly understand how it is that someone like you can live in blissfull ignorance and be totally unaware of the connection between negative and positive. New-agers always get that wrong. You are a product of pop culture, fed lies and glitter since you were born, that parts not your fault but staying there is.
Now if you have anything else to discuss with me, I'm only to happy to discuss your disabilitys. respectfully DB
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February 9th, 2008, 11:16 AM
They are coming to get us.....run and hide.
Quoting darkbeaver
.....and you are a product of fear and negativity.
"Your problem", let's deconstruct your statement and see who actually has a problem, if in fact any problem exists. Now you maintain that because of my opinions based on interests and in the mechanisms and institutions of governance and industry that I have a problem. Is this true? No, quite obviously my opinions indicate an [interest] and nothing whatever of a personal problem.
Let's deconstruct sentence three of your little paragraph, with which you confuse my awareness for fear. This is revealing of your own thinking Avro, you are afraid of reality, it obviously makes you uncomfortable and you would rather attack me than consider changeing your own thinking, away from a position not supported by reality.
You say that you have no idea how I can stand to live in constant fear. As I already said you have awareness and fear confused because awareness constitutes fear to you then you assume it must also frighten me constantly, this is your problem which you attempt to transfer to me. "You have no idea" actually you have no comparable level of awareness with my own and this confounds your conventional wisdom. Now you should not take that as a dis because it's not, it simply means that we have different interests from different perspectives.
"There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their." This the middle sentence of your paragraph says it all. It is a demonstratable fact of history freely available to those who have an interest in such things, that you are unable to incorporate such a thought is not my problem either but it certainly is yours.Get yourself access to a university data bank and do some research.
Quite apart from your inability to understand a person 'like me" as you say and your own simple understanding of what is fear and what is awareness. I do perfectly understand how it is that someone like you can live in blissfull ignorance and be totally unaware of the connection between negative and positive. New-agers always get that wrong. You are a product of pop culture, fed lies and glitter since you were born, that parts not your fault but staying there is.
Now if you have anything else to discuss with me, I'm only to happy to discuss your disabilitys. respectfully DB
Let's deconstruct sentence three of your little paragraph, with which you confuse my awareness for fear. This is revealing of your own thinking Avro, you are afraid of reality, it obviously makes you uncomfortable and you would rather attack me than consider changeing your own thinking, away from a position not supported by reality.
You say that you have no idea how I can stand to live in constant fear. As I already said you have awareness and fear confused because awareness constitutes fear to you then you assume it must also frighten me constantly, this is your problem which you attempt to transfer to me. "You have no idea" actually you have no comparable level of awareness with my own and this confounds your conventional wisdom. Now you should not take that as a dis because it's not, it simply means that we have different interests from different perspectives.
"There is always a sinister plot by a Cabal of CEO's and politicians to subvert democracy and enslave humanity isn't their." This the middle sentence of your paragraph says it all. It is a demonstratable fact of history freely available to those who have an interest in such things, that you are unable to incorporate such a thought is not my problem either but it certainly is yours.Get yourself access to a university data bank and do some research.
Quite apart from your inability to understand a person 'like me" as you say and your own simple understanding of what is fear and what is awareness. I do perfectly understand how it is that someone like you can live in blissfull ignorance and be totally unaware of the connection between negative and positive. New-agers always get that wrong. You are a product of pop culture, fed lies and glitter since you were born, that parts not your fault but staying there is.
Now if you have anything else to discuss with me, I'm only to happy to discuss your disabilitys. respectfully DB
They are coming to get us.....run and hide.
