So what did the Plantagenets ever do for us?

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This summer, The Mail on Sunday will be supporting the Chalke Valley History Festival, Britain’s premier history event, sponsored by the Daily Mail.

And as an exclusive preview, Mail on Sunday readers are today offered the chance to join a private evening celebrating the importance of history in modern Britain.

Here, one of our evening’s eminent speakers explains the neglected legacy of the most successful Royal house in British history…

So what did the Plantagenets ever do for us? Apart from give us our laws, our language and save us from the French!


The Mail on Sunday will be supporting the Chalke Valley History Festival
Readers are today offered the chance to join a private evening celebrating the importance of history in modern Britain
Plantagenets are the most successful Royal house in British history




By historian Dan Jones For The Mail On Sunday
3 April 2016
Mail On Sunday

This summer, The Mail on Sunday will be supporting the Chalke Valley History Festival, Britain’s premier history event, sponsored by the Daily Mail.

And as an exclusive preview, Mail on Sunday readers are today offered the chance to join a private evening celebrating the importance of history in modern Britain.

Here, one of our evening’s eminent speakers explains the neglected legacy of the most successful Royal house in British history…



Revival: There is a renewed interest in Plantagenets, such as Henry V, played by Tom Hiddleston, who is fancied to be the new Bond, in 2012

William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, was about 70 years old and by his own reckoning still the greatest knight in England. As he sat astride his horse outside the walls of Lincoln on Saturday, May 20, 1217, he faced the biggest test of his glorious career – a battle that would secure England’s future as an independent realm rather than a mere province of France.

Lincoln was one of the great cities of a medieval England ripped in two by civil war. Behind its stone walls lay an enemy army made up of traitors and Frenchmen attacking its castle. Marshal, regent to the child king, Henry III, was there to drive them out with an outnumbered army.

It was a fight to the death and Marshal commanded his knights to be ready to kill their horses and use the corpses to build barricades.

And they won a stunning victory, relieving the besieged loyalists in Lincoln castle. The highest-ranking Frenchman, the Count of Perche, was killed by a sword thrust through the visor-hole of his helmet. Lincoln was saved and so was England.



Had things gone differently, the Battle of Lincoln would have ranked alongside the Battle of Hastings. Had Marshal lost, the son of the king of France, a warrior known as Louis the Lion, would have been our King Louis I. It is astonishing how close he came. Louis had crossed the Channel in 1216 to take the crown from King John, the tyrant who had been forced to grant Magna Carta but refused to stick to its terms.

His enemies – a coalition of English barons and bishops – asked Louis to replace him. Had he succeeded, Louis, who duly inherited the French crown as Louis VIII, would have been king of England and France.

That’s why the Battle of Lincoln was so important. It was the first step towards keeping the crowns of England and France separate. It also guaranteed the survival of the Plantagenet dynasty, the most long-reigning and arguably the most important royal house in English history.

The Plantagenets were originally from Anjou – a French county. But their 331-year rule over England, from 1154 to 1485, lay the foundations of modern England and had a profound effect on the rest of what we now call the United Kingdom. The Plantagenets gave us the basis for the English legal system. Henry II made sweeping legal reforms, effectively creating the common law. Magna Carta, granted by his son John in 1215, guaranteed the principle that kings should govern according to their own laws.

Under the Plantagenets, trial by ordeal and torture were abandoned in favour of a jury – still one of our most cherished principles. Later, during the reign of Edward III, justices of the peace were introduced – who remain as our magistrates.

By the 1370s, Parliament was a powerful institution with the authority to impeach corrupt royal ministers. In 1399, it was the forum in which Richard II was deposed and his cousin Henry IV took the throne. They changed the physical landscape of Britain, too, building huge fortresses such as the Tower of London, Dover Castle and the massive fortresses of North Wales. Cathedrals soared in Lincoln (Lincoln Cathedral was the tallest building in the world between 1300 and 1549), Salisbury, Winchester, York and Hereford. London boomed and new towns including Liverpool and Portsmouth were founded.


Lincoln Castle


The 1217 Battle of Lincoln was the original Brexit

Meanwhile, English relations with her neighbours were set. Edward I, known as Longshanks, conquered the Welsh and hammered the Scots, who have never forgotten it.

In the 1150s, Henry II claimed the right to conquer Ireland – the echoes of which we still feel – and the historical rivalry between England and France was born. The Hundred Years War, which produced famous victories such as the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, established the English and French as natural enemies with profoundly different and incompatible cultures.

Partly as a result, the modern English language developed. In the 12th Century, English was considered a peasant tongue: the upper classes spoke French and churchmen used Latin.

By the 1390s, English had become the language of literature, which the Plantagenets had made a respectable tongue.

When I started writing history books, the Plantagenets were deeply uncool. Now they are roaring back into fashion, not least due to the producers of Game Of Thrones, which is based on the Wars Of The Roses.

All this could have been different if William Marshal had not triumphed at the battle of Lincoln. It was, in a sense, the original Brexit: the moment we began our journey to modern nationhood.



Dan Jones is speaking about the Plantagenets at the Daily Mail Chalke Valley History Festival on July 2. His latest book is Realm Divided: A Year In The Life of Plantagenet England (Head of Zeus).

 
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So what did the Plantagenets ever do for us? Apart from give us our laws, our language and save us from the French!

The "US" being the English only. The others all came under attack by them.
 

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So what did the Plantagenets ever do for us? Apart from give us our laws, our language and save us from the French!

The "US" being the English only. The others all came under attack by them.


And quite rightly, too.

The only problem with England is that she is surrounded by inferior neighbours - the Frogs, the Jocks, the Taffs and the Paddies - who KNOW they are inferior to England and have the corresponding inferiority complex: yet they are happy to be propped up by English money.
 

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Yep. If it wasn't for the Sassenachs Scotland, for example, would still be a poor, impoverished backwater.

... and free. In fact, since Scots invented the steam engine, the Industrial Revolution, Central Banking, Industrial Capitalism, it might very well have been the other way around. The landed, agriculturally based South of England lagged way behind the developments in Scotland.
 

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... and free.

Well they did join in a Union with England voluntarily - and then declined to be an independent nation in their referendum on 18th September 2014. They just couldn't bear, in the end, to part with English subsidies which prop them up.

In fact, since Scots invented the steam engine, the Industrial Revolution, Central Banking, Industrial Capitalism, it might very well have been the other way around. The landed, agriculturally based South of England lagged way behind the developments in Scotland.
Sorry, but that's rubbish. For centuries England was far wealthier and far more advanced than Scotland, even more so when she started to develop a burgeoning empire. Whilst Braveheart was largely inaccurate, the parts where the wealthy English looked upon the poor, barbaric Scots as savages is largely true. That's why the Scots joinined in a Union with the English in 1707 to form the Kingdom of Great Britain: they wanted a share of the wealth that was being generated by the burgeoning empire.

Also, all those "Scottish" innovations that you list above only came about AFTER the Union with England. And it's a bit of a stretch to say the Industrial Revolution started in Scotland, when many of the machines which kickstarted it were invented in the North of England, such as the flying shuttle, the spinning frame, the spinning jenny and the spinning mule, invented in my hometown of Bolton by Samuel Crompton.
 

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Wasn't Hank Cinq a Plantagenet ?

Henry V was a Plantagenet.

As it says, the Plantagenet royal dynasty was the longest in English history, ruling from 1154 to 1485 when the last Plantagenet monarch, Richard III, was killed in the Battle of Bosworth, whose victor, Henry Tudor, became Henry VII, the first monarch of the Tudor dynasty.

The Plantagenets took their name from Geoffrey V, the count of Anjou, Touraine and Maine, who was the father of King Henry II, the first Plantagenet monarch. Geoffrey acquired the nickname "Plantagenet" because he had something of a penchant for wearing a yellow sprig of broom blossom (planta genista) in his hat.

 

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Wasn't Richard the Third "My kingdom for a hoss" a Plantagenet piece of a parking lot?
 

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Wasn't Richard the Third "My kingdom for a hoss" a Plantagenet piece of a parking lot?

He was found under a car park in Leicester in 2012, although I don't think he ever shouted "A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse!" when he was dismounted and about to be killed during the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. That was just what he said in a Shakespeare play.
 
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He was found under a car park in Leicester in 2012, although I don't think he ever shouted "A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse!" when he was dismounted and about to be killed during the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. That was just what he said in a Shakespeare play.

By the way, they IDeed his remains using DNA from some ordinary guy living in Manitoba. The scholiosis of his spine was a dead give-away, though.
 

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That guy is a descendant of Richard III.

No sh1t Sherlock. That would account for him having the same DNA.

Doesn't quite live in a palace, though. The Plantagenet line ended up in Winnipeg. They must have left little Fitzroys" all over England by the sure branch of the family tree leads way away from England. My, how the mighty have fallen. Maybe Saxe/Colburg/Gotha ends up that way, some day too.
 

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My, how the mighty have fallen. Maybe Saxe/Colburg/Gotha ends up that way, some day too.

Well all royal dynasties have ends. We've had Wessex, Normans, Plantagenets, Tudors, Stuarts, Hanoverians and now we have the Windsors. All those previous royal houses ended in some way or other and the same is no doubt true of the Windsors. When, or if, the current Windsor royal house, which started in 1917 (its first monarch was George V), ends a new one will take its place.

The Plantagenet dynasty lasted for 331 years, so if the House of Windsor lasts that long it will still be reigning over us in 2248.

The Plantagenet line ended up in Winnipeg.

They've probably got descendants all over the world. For all I know, I could be descended from the Plantagenets, and so could you.