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Nonious

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Hi,
first post on here so please treat me gently! A fairly simple request from a Brit who knows next to nothing about Canadian history outside of WW1 & WW2 (sorry). Does the term "Battle Run" have any significance in Canadian history, is it a place if so where?
For any help given I thank you kindly,


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Cold War Warriors - David Stone - Google Books




Leopard 1C2 Battle Run - YouTube



The battle run at CFB Valcartier is used for mechanized manoeuvres with live firing. It was built in the late 1990s and is composed of two parallel gravel roads that are each 4.5 km long. Fixed and moving (rail-based) targets representing infantry soldiers and enemy tanks are placed along the run.

Since the run was created, there has been a deficiency in the quality of training that can be carried out there. Specifically, at the junction with Thiepval Road, the paths intersect (Lines 1 and 2) and form a single road for a 600 m section (Annex 1). As a result, trainees cannot fire for a distance of 1 km, which greatly detracts from the conduct and realism of the training.

Archived - Valcartier battle run restructuring project




Since 1963 the competition format has undergone numerous changes. Originally, single tanks fired from fixed points at known ranges. Following the 1968 and again after the 1975 competitions, the rules and procedures of the competition were changed to more accurately reflect combat conditions. The 1970, 1973 and 1975 competitions incorporated tank sections, consisting of two tanks; while beginning in the 1977 competition, 3-tank platoons (or strong sections for 5-tank platoons) are now required to fire and move over a course, termed a "battle run," designed to test their gunnery skills under more realistic conditions. Each battle run consists of firing from stationary positions and while on the move, at both stationary and moving targets. 4-Tank platoons were incorporated beginning with the 1981 competition. The trophy and awards were given to the best scoring team.

Canadian Army Trophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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The only Battle Run I had to deal with was when I ate too much spicy food in a short period of time and I ended up on the toilet on and off for a few hours battling the runs.
 

Nonious

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Thanks people :) But it's a long time since I had a history essay to write! Actually I picked up the term "Battle Run" from the lyrics of a song written and performed by a Canadian and being ever-so-slightly obsessive about things that intrigue me I thought it made sense to ask other Canadians. Oh and by the way I've heard of the Battle of Bull Run - but know nowt about it - I figured that wasn't what the song referred to 'cos it wouldn't fit with the song's "theme".


Seasons Greetings from South Yorkshire UK and again I thank you kindly for all your help,


Nonious
 

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There is something called a buffalo run where a few people get the herd running in a useless stampede and a cliff is put in front of some of them. No real way to tell how many will go over it but any that do are dead. That practice was deemed too cruel for the buffalo, any idea when war will be viewed in the same light in that we don't get a chance to say no whenever the Brits are off on some war somewhere.

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Hi,
first post on here so please treat me gently! A fairly simple request from a Brit who knows next to nothing about Canadian history outside of WW1 & WW2 (sorry). Does the term "Battle Run" have any significance in Canadian history, is it a place if so where?
For any help given I thank you kindly,


Nonious

What a lot of French did during battle.
 

Dexter Sinister

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...obsessive about things that intrigue me...I've heard of the Battle of Bull Run - but know nowt about it...
I take it then that the Battle of Bull Run doesn't intrigue you, not even with that rather odd name? So you wouldn't be interested to know that there were two of them, about a year apart? Or that Bull Run is what one side called them, the other side called them Manassas? Or that Bull Run is the name of a small river near the battle site? Or that Manassas is the name of what was a nearby railway junction at the time but is now a small city? Or that the First Battle of Bull Run (or First Manassas depending on your sympathies) was the opening land engagement of the first really modern (i.e. with technology that enabled massive slaughter of both sides from a distance) war?

No I'm not mocking you, I'm just showing off. :) Military history is one of my many hobbies and interests and I tend to think everybody should be as interested as I am.
 
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The only Battle Run I had to deal with was when I ate too much spicy food in a short period of time and I ended up on the toilet on and off for a few hours battling the runs.



"The toilet is too far from the sink, which isn't what you need in India. Both are often required at the same time."

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Way to show us commoners how two civilized people chat. tick, tick, tick.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26xp6Ygwd4&list=PLL8ypStuqcfD98zXLT-bvbVP2GzgGN1oR&index=7

No I'm not mocking you, I'm just showing off. :) Military history is one of my many hobbies and interests and I tend to think everybody should be as interested as I am.
Now tel him about the blonde General, my version is not as dry so yours.
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I take it then that the Battle of Bull Run doesn't intrigue you, not even with that rather odd name? So you wouldn't be interested to know that there were two of them, about a year apart? Or that Bull Run is what one side called them, the other side called them Manassas? Or that Bull Run is the name of a small river near the battle site? Or that Manassas is the name of what was a nearby railway junction at the time but is now a small city? Or that the First Battle of Bull Run (or First Manassas depending on your sympathies) was the opening land engagement of the first really modern (i.e. with technology that enabled massive slaughter of both sides from a distance) war?

No I'm not mocking you, I'm just showing off. :) Military history is one of my many hobbies and interests and I tend to think everybody should be as interested as I am.

Certainly when you deal with the American Civil War, part of the confusion even for Americans is that the two sides never agreed on the names of the battles. You point out Manassas/Bull Run, there's also Antietam/Sharpsburg, Shiloh/Pittsburg Landing, and dozens more.
 

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The only Battle Run I had to deal with was when I ate too much spicy food in a short period of time and I ended up on the toilet on and off for a few hours battling the runs.

I refer to that experience as the ring of fire. first it burns the mouth, then the anus.
 

MHz

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Does Canada get to opt out of WWIII if the UK starts that one. That was sort of the path I was dragging him down. But please carry on as war history of NA without the UK would be the biggest book (for common things) by far.
 

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Thanks people :) But it's a long time since I had a history essay to write! Actually I picked up the term "Battle Run" from the lyrics of a song written and performed by a Canadian and being ever-so-slightly obsessive about things that intrigue me I thought it made sense to ask other Canadians. Oh and by the way I've heard of the Battle of Bull Run - but know nowt about it - I figured that wasn't what the song referred to 'cos it wouldn't fit with the song's "theme".


Seasons Greetings from South Yorkshire UK and again I thank you kindly for all your help,


Nonious

you're welcome.
 

MHz

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If that is an example of how Brits educate themseleves it might explain the Titanic. Just saying . . . . . Perhaps I should write a paper on trolls, how to spot them and how to respond to one when spotted. With any luck it would start some sort of implosion.