The History and Meaning of "Palestine" and "Palestinians"

[Locutus]

Summary ... Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are simply Arabs by another name.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian Arab nation . . . Palestine is a name the Romans gave to Eretz Yisrael with the express purpose of infuriating the Jews . . . . Why should we use the spiteful name meant to humiliate us?​

The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity." — Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995​

Palestine has never existed . . . as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.​

Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today . . . No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough. — from "Myths of the Middle East", Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, WorldNetDaily, 11 October 2000​

From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries . . . . — Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975​

Talk and writing about Israel and the Middle East feature the nouns "Palestine" and Palestinian", and the phrases "Palestinian territory" and even "Israeli-occupied Palestinian territory". All too often, these terms are used with regard to their historical or geographical meaning, so that the usage creates illusions rather than clarifies reality.


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The History and Meaning of "Palestine" and "Palestinians"

 

[petros]

That's funny.

 

[WLDB]

Oh well that settles that then.

 

[CDNBear]

Oh well that settles that then.

Now THAT's funny!

 

[#juan]

That's funny.

Well, if they don't exist, we can just shoot them all. I'm sure Israel would like that. Interesting that in Jordan there are more Palestinians than Jordanians.

 

[CDNBear]

Well, if they don't exist, we can just shoot them all. I'm sure Israel would like that.

You know, using simple logic, most intelligent people have figured out that if Israel really wanted to eradicate Palestinians, it would have been done already.

Given Israel's might and ability, they could have done it with ease, a thousand times over already.

Interesting that in Jordan there are more Palestinians than Jordanians.

They breed like rabbits.

 

[petros]

Jew was a political movement in a crazy state carved out after a civil war. They weren't liked by the Israelites or the Romans. After being punted Israelites moved in and became "the Christians" in Palestine which now included former Judea and Galileans and Nazarenes

there is a book about it.

 

[WLDB]

there is a book about it.

I hear its good.

 

[petros]

not bad

 

[CDNBear]

I skipped to the end, the Devil did it.

 

[MHz]

Damn, now I have to withdraw that, ''It isn't cheating comment.'

 

[damngrumpy]

Some actually believe in the Old Testament the land of Palestine was actually the
land of the Philistines and according to the old book the Israelite took it from them
too so go figure. No I am not anti Israel its just trying to simplify something as
complicated as this saying Palestine never existed as a free state, it sounds like
it did before the Israeli's arrived that is according to the book the Old Testament
and hell that was written by the Israelite s
The whole area is a dysfunctional mess

 

[Dexter Sinister]

You know, using simple logic, most intelligent people have figured out that if Israel really wanted to eradicate Palestinians, it would have been done already.

Given Israel's might and ability, they could have done it with ease, a thousand times over already.

Exactly. And Israel is surrounded by explicitly genocidal neighbours who *would* wipe it out if they could. Not only do they deny the Holocaust, they think it would have been a good thing to happen and they'd like a chance to do it. Israel has been made brutal by the constant need to defend itself against these loons. so I wouldn't suggest Israel is blameless, but I do think that tells us who has the moral high ground, if anybody does.

 

[petros]

Exactly. And Israel is surrounded by explicitly genocidal neighbours who *would* wipe it out if they could. Not only do they deny the Holocaust, they think it would have been a good thing to happen and they'd like a chance to do it. Israel has been made brutal by the constant need to defend itself against these loons. so I wouldn't suggest Israel is blameless, but I do think that tells us who has the moral high ground, if anybody does.

Morals are being voted out and replaced with buzz kill orthos. The future doesn't look good for anyone.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

...hence the "if anybody does" qualification.

 

[MHz]

Exactly. And Israel is surrounded by explicitly genocidal neighbours who *would* wipe it out if they could. Not only do they deny the Holocaust, they think it would have been a good thing to happen and they'd like a chance to do it. Israel has been made brutal by the constant need to defend itself against these loons. so I wouldn't suggest Israel is blameless, but I do think that tells us who has the moral high ground, if anybody does.

You seem to be a bit behind time as far as the facts, start at about 6:30.
Miko Peled Seattle. Oct. 1, 2012 - YouTube

I thought the 'loon' was Nazi Germany and all the other European neighbors in the 1,000 or so years before that that had been cruel to the Jew because of exiles. Arabs and the 12 Tribes have lived together for 5,000 years, if they were mortal enemies somebody would have won the war by now..

Take the mob hatred for the Jewish bankers away and the reasons for exiles drops by about 75%. Have the Jews in exile accept the relaxed dietary laws that are given in Acts:10 and they would not be demanding special status.
The common theme with Jews (today) is that they made up the OT from a bunch of mostly unrelated stories, so much for having any real claim to any land any place in the real world.

Perhaps the shrinks that thought arming a persecuted (real and imagined) group to the teeth and expecting peace should have their own heads examined before handing out ant other 'advice'.

As it stands they had to chase out almost 1M Arabs before their version of democracy could exist. It was a failed state that far back, what you see now is the effects of failing to own up to that fact.

 

[CDNBear]

Oh yay, more of MHz patented stupidity.

 

[MHz]

Not me in the vid or making claims that the Jews invented God. If you dislike it so much you would have given it a red.

 

[lone wolf]

What is the official language of the nation of North, Central or South America

 

[CDNBear]

Hebrewish