The Soviet Story - a must-see for all students of history
Entire film (without subtitles)
The Soviet Story
Entire film (without subtitles)
The Soviet Story
The Soviet Story - a must-see for all students of history
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This is hardly news people in the Ex-Soviet Union know all about it as does anyone with even a remote interest in the period.
Refresher courses don't hurt. And there's always a chance that someone can provide a unique perspective.
So what it would be the same propaganda as long as anybody from the West was doing the script. Put your head an inch deeper in the sand. Suddenly a production from 2008 suddenly has made it to the headlines, lol.
http://alausa.org/files/PBS_stations_to_screen_The_Soviet_Story_-_Press_Release.pdf
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http://alausa.org/files/PBS_stations_to_screen_The_Soviet_Story_-_Press_Release.pdf
PERRY STREET ADVISORS LLC
155 Perry Street, Suite 1B, New York NY 10014
www.perrystreetadvisors.com
Tel +1-917-402-2853 Fax -1-646-230-0591 E-mail: info@perrystreetadvisors.com
And that's just the distributor, not the producer. But that's OK, MHz is backpedaling as fast as he can.
Oh, THIS should be good!
And if you look at the Perry Street Advisors page, it looks like they advise on business aspects, not filming.
"Ah, whatta maroon" -Bugs Bunny
"Ah, whatta maroon" -Bugs Bunny
It's a piece of propaganda. Is there any errors in this film when the US and England decided yo kill 100,000 or so civilians just to show the USSR how they will fight wars from now on. That was the 3rd city they burnt to the ground. Tell me again how nobel the West is compared to the USSR.
Do you think they would market a Russian made production or some US made fabrication? I'll go with US propaganda to smear somebody whild ignoring their abuse that equal or surpass that of the 'target'. So far I haven't seen the Afghan part, what time is that at as it is easy to verify the 'facts' on how they got involved in that thanks to Jimmy Carter starting a covert war some 6 months before the USSR came into Afghanistan? Anybody who has watched the whole thing would be able to find it in a moment. I'm still listening to it and skipping ahead didn't help find that section.
Any errors in this 'movie review'?
Movie Magg: The Soviet Story (Labvakar/Perry Street Advisors, 2008)
The Soviet Story (Labvakar/Perry Street Advisors, 2008)
by Mark Gabrish Conlan • Copyright © 2009 by Mark Gabrish Conlan • All rights reserved
This morning I also watched a chilling if overwrought documentary recently shown on PBS: The Soviet Story, a production from a Latvian company called Labvakar, directed and written by Edvins Snore, whose movie would be a good deal more moving if he had just stuck to the facts he could document and not placed them in a hard-Right ideological, philosophical and propagandist context designed to discredit all forms of socialism, liberalism and any other political-economic philosophy but lassiez-faire capitalism and worship of “The Market.” The basic thesis (if I can borrow a word from dialectic terminology whose use in connection with his film Mr. — or is it Ms.? — Snore would probably detest) of The Soviet Story is that Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were virtually identical; all sought to create a socialist society of one form or another, and all called for mass murders of anyone whose existence they considered an obstacle to their foredoomed attempts to remake human nature.
Snore’s ideological purpose is to trash any and all of the myths and legends by which modern-day socialists (or, for that matter, modern-day liberals and progressives) attempt to dissociate themselves and their goals from the horrors of Communism and Nazism, though his case against Marx and Engels rests mainly on the appearance of one word, “Völkerabfälle,” in the Communist Manifesto. Snore translates this as “racial trash” and explains in his narration (he wrote the film, though in the English version the narration is delivered by Jon Strickland in a quiet, calm, matter-of-fact way that only makes the film more chilling) that this meant that people whose societies hadn’t yet experienced the capitalist transformation (he apparently cited the Basques and the Scottish Highlanders as examples) would have to be exterminated before the transition from capitalism to socialism could be completed. (Ironically, the first socialist revolution occurred in a society that was still largely feudal — indeed, the ideological battle between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks was based largely on this very point: could you make a socialist revolution in a society that hadn’t even finished the transition to capitalism yet? — but this is just one of the many real-life complexities that aren’t in Snore’s film because they don’t fit his ideological schema.)
Snore makes some pretty wild leaps and instances of guilt by association (a favorite tactic of the Right) to establish ideological and inspirational connections between Nazism and Communism, going so far as to claim that the Nazis were really Leftists because they had the word “socialist” in their name and they shared a belief in exterminating enemies of the state — only the Nazis’ targets were based on race while the Soviets’ targets were based on class. Snore includes a montage sequence comparing Nazi German posters on the left side of the screen with Soviet Russian posters on the right (shouldn’t it have been the other way around?) in an effort to depict the similarities of the regimes — though all his montage really proves is that these two despotisms sold themselves to their people in similar ways (it’s really more a commonality of marketing than of ideology). He also dredges up footage of George Bernard Shaw (I presume from his famous Movietone newsreel of 1928) claiming that certain “undesirable” people should be made to justify their existence and (he leaves this unspoken but this is a legitimate inference from what he said) got rid of if they can’t prove they add more value to the world than they take from it in their support. The idea is to tie West European socialism to both the Soviets and the Nazis (and indeed Shaw did say in the 1930’s that democracy was proving inadequate to the economic crisis and maybe the future lay with dictatorships, which is more an embarrassment to Shaw and proof of how far a great mind can go off the rails than the blanket condemnation of all socialism and progressivism Snore wants to paint it as) and to argue that humankind’s only choices are capitalism or barbarism.
I watched of a small portion, could not look at any more. My grandparents came from Ukraine, I got a first hand history. The portion I watched is very true that is why I cannot watch it.
Let me tell you a true story about one of my family, a 16 yr. old girl. It was during the starvation of the people. It was during the winter, her mother was sick, dying and also freezing to death because there was no wood (they took all the fuel also) to heat the house. Outside their house, on their property there was a DEAD tree, so she went out and cut it down for firewood. She was arrested, found guilty, and sentenced to a brothel for soldiers in Siberia. Don't forget she was only 16. That God for the underground fighters, they never let her get to Siberia, they killed her to save her from what was waiting for her.
In all they killed and starved 17 MILLION Ukranians. Don't talk to me and try to miminize what they did!
Let me tell you a true story about one of my family, a 16 yr. old girl. It was during the starvation of the people. It was during the winter, her mother was sick, dying and also freezing to death because there was no wood (they took all the fuel also) to heat the house. Outside their house, on their property there was a DEAD tree, so she went out and cut it down for firewood. She was arrested, found guilty, and sentenced to a brothel for soldiers in Siberia. Don't forget she was only 16. That God for the underground fighters, they never let her get to Siberia, they killed her to save her from what was waiting for her.
In all they killed and starved 17 MILLION Ukranians. Don't talk to me and try to miminize what they did!
1:18:40-1:19:00 for starters Would you like to see the mass killing that have happened in Iraq and Afghanistan that includes lots of women and children and babies in just the last 10 years and now show me something similar that Russia has done in that same time-frame. (2000- 2014)
Go ahead Gerr you can be the first fuktard to promote the error in that short segment as being entirely factual. To show you have watched it post a time to a segment you think is totally accurate. (that has some relevance to this century)
Afghanistan, Iraq Wars Killed 132,000 Civilians, Report Says | Danger Room | Wired.com
Since the US is the force behind the Syrian war there is another 130,000 civilian deaths the US has caused this century.
Go ahead brag up the West it only show that you support terrorism as long as you are the ones creating the terror amongst civilians.
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and what does that have to do with Russia? How does what has happened in Iraq and Afghanistan have anything to do with what is happening in Russia? The answer is nothing. Now, answer the question. What in the film is not true? Try to answer without bringing up what other countries have done or not done. You want to talk about the atrocities brought on by western countries, then start a thread on that. Otherwise, try to stick to the topic at hand.