Remembrance day forgotten

Remembrance day forgotten

gerryh

#181

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 13th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

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Yep....and if my auntie had balls, she would be my uncle.

All very nice and airy-fairie, and yes we should all be raised to turn the other cheek again and again and again and to be concerned about everybody's feelings and to be ashamed of our history and those monsters like my uncle who died on Jan 3, 1942 bombing the hell out of Germany while flying around in a Wellington.

The obvious problem is, as long as you are being such a morally superior pacifist, that someone like Adolph comes along, taps into that streak of violence, zenophobia, and racial and national arrogance that exists in every human being, and begins to enslave a good part of the world while the pacifist morons have their heads stuck deep in the sand.

I take it, from your point of view, we should have let Dear Adolph have Europe.....what the hell? It's not OUR war.....

Today we're faced with another set of lunatic fascists, inspired not by racism, but by religious fanaticism. I'm afraid the wolves at the door do not share your superior ethics, ........unfortunate that, what?

And there are always wolves at the door.

Throughout human history, now, and in the future.

You sit on your fat arse in a free, democratic, rich society...... feeling superior in your stupidity only because people fought for you.

For you to say "Well, I owe them nothing because I didn't ask them to....." is the absolute depth of narcissism, arrogance, and ignorance.

I am disgusted with you on this subject, I have given you more reddies in the last three days that I have given in 4 years on CC.

It is becoming increasingly hard to take you seriously.

As it is harder and harder to take a war mongering racist like you serious. Difference is, for the most part, it's not worth my time to even give you the red.

Your attitude of "this is the way mankind is" IS the main reason we still have war. Instead of trying to change, you and most others use the cop out of, "it's the way it is" and then denigrate those that say that it doesn't have to be that way. We are called cowards for being anti-war. I say fine, call me a coward, narcissist, arrogant, and ignorant, I really don't care what the feeble minded think of me. And yes, you and your buddies are the feeble minded. Those that can't see the benefits of change and the disadvantages of remaining the same are guaranteed to repeat the past over and over again. That is why we have very few years of real peace in this world over the last 100 plus years.

Goober

#182

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 13th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

How about not create the atmosphere that allowed a nut case like Hitler to rise to the top in the first place.

and if it makes it easier for you to justify your war mongering and murderous ways to think of me as a coward, you go right ahead. You are not worth my time to worry about it. I've already described how useless you are.

The world is full of nutcases running countries - or civil wars - look to the Lords Resistance Army. You want perfecion.

Ron in Regina

#183

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 13th, 2011

I've scrubbed out some of this Thread, but only some posts from today. This is
a very passionate & polarizing topic for many (including myself). Attacking a
position held by someone is a given, and can be done without personally
attacking the person that holds a position that differs from yourselves.

I've seen it on both sides of this topic, and it need not be here. I don't care who
started what where (& I'm just to lazy to look back that far at this point, to be
perfectly honest), but we're all adults. Attack a position, not a person. Easy.

VanIsle

#184

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 13th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

I've scrubbed out some of this Thread, but only some posts from today. This is
a very passionate & polarizing topic for many (including myself). Attacking a
position held by someone is a given, and can be done without personally
attacking the person that holds a position that differs from yourselves.

I've seen it on both sides of this topic, and it need not be here. I don't care who
started what where (& I'm just to lazy to look back that far at this point, to be
perfectly honest), but we're all adults. Attack a position, not a person. Easy.

Thanks - you are wise.

talloola

#185

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 13th, 2011

all of us are anti war, none of us enjoy war, we all would like to see a world where war was the
most unpopular move.

with the religious and the power monger leaders always argueing over what they hate about each other,
then threatening the other, like it has been for thousands of years, and will continue long after we
are gone, we understand that wars happen, there is nothing 'we' regular folk can do about it.

when we are threatened we must protect and defend outselves, that is NOT war mongering.

building of bigger and smarter bombs, and equipment and planes and ships, how would any of us have
a chance to make an impact.

the marches can take place, the signs can be painted, the letters written to newspapers, and on and on,
and the 'power hungry leaders' wherever they might be, starting up agression will always be there, and
we cannot control that.

all wars are stupid and senseless and hurtful and kill thousands, but 'men' with their big toys who want
to see how they work, will always ruffle their feathers and strut around spouting how much stronger they
are than the neighbour, terrorists with their ancient ignorant beliefs will act out in such rigid ways,
preaching how the west are horrible, and only 'their' way is the right way.

nothing we can do about them, I wonder what percentage of them actually appreciate how much help canadians
have given them in afghanistan, building schools and many such improvements.

corporations who make millions from the manufacturing of war machines, guns etc., will not ever march
against war, they make millions from the wars, bring em on, make us rich.

we must stand together and care for each other, in all ways, and sometimes it is fighting in a war to
help each other against 'whomever' it might be, who want us all 'dead'.
that does not make us war mongers, we are pretty normal in our attitudes toward war, we all hate it, but
realize that war comes around, and we can't ignore it when it affects us and our friends who want to
live in the free world with us.

if we all turned tail and ran away, we would not have this big beautiful country we live in, the best on
earth, we would be slaves to tyrants who would just as soon put a bullet our head as look at us, if we
attempted to open our mouths in disagreement.

thanks again and again to our past soldiers who served and died to help this
country stay safe.

Ron in Regina

#186

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

I'm going to bed. Read the terms of service. Back in 5 days. Enjoy.

Johnnny

#187

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

Quote:

Remembrance Day (also known as Poppy Day, --) is a -- day observed in -- countries since the end of -- to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty

I think its foolish to call people who remember the members of our Armed Forces as war mongering courtside fans.... There is nothing wrong with people using Remembrance Day for its intended purpose.

Now on the otherhand we could be talking about how it would be a good idea for Canada to adopt a seperate Remembrace of the Dead Day similar to what the Dutch have. Come on people make some ****in comprimises, talk about making a petition for this second day instead of calling each other feeble minded explicit comment....

Omicron

#188

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny

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I think its foolish to call people who remember the members of our Armed Forces as war mongering courtside fans.... There is nothing wrong with people using Remembrance Day for its intended purpose.

Now on the otherhand we could be talking about how it would be a good idea for Canada to adopt a seperate Remembrace of the Dead Day similar to what the Dutch have. Come on people make some ****in comprimises, talk about making a petition for this second day instead of calling each other feeble minded explicit comment....

I am a pencil-neck buck-tooth science geek, alive today with a living because of those WW-I fighters.

I could say that we should honor the fallen more than is being done, or I could slam from outer-space with special-chemical bombs anyone too dumb to see how civilizations grow.

Just kidding about the chemical bombs... actually they're biological...

Oops... damn I said ****. **** I said ****...

The point is... anyone ever seen a real movie re-enactment of Vimy Ridge? The answer is no. It was that horrible.

No producer/director can ever figure out how to make a show out of that one, because reports are the tunnels were so low and narrow that combatants had to crawl on bellies and see an enemy looking at them in a rat-hole and be the first to pull his weapon and shoot. Evidently Canadians had a way to shoot Jerry faster in the face.

Last edited by Omicron; Nov 14th, 2011 at 02:10 AM..

CDNBear

#189

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

The only ones on this board that I would even consider doing that for would be RCS and Bear.

Gh...

I'm rarely ever moved by anything said on these boards.

I'm moved, honoured even, thank you.

Absolutely unnecessary though. I'm just a man, no different from you.

Although I respectfully ask why you think I'm a wh!re?

gerryh

#190

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Gh...

I'm rarely ever moved by anything said on these boards.

I'm moved, honoured even, thank you.

Absolutely unnecessary though. I'm just a man, no different from you.

Although I respectfully ask why you think I'm a wh!re?

Respect is given to those that deserve it and have earned it. You know me, I don't hand out this shyte willy nilly. I do respect both you and RCS immensely. Even though you and I do still have our go arounds. RCS, well, he's too delicate so I back off with him.

and as for your last question....I've talked to SCB..... need I go into details?

Goober

#191

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 14th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Respect is given to those that deserve it and have earned it. You know me, I don't hand out this shyte willy nilly. I do respect both you and RCS immensely. Even though you and I do still have our go arounds. RCS, well, he's too delicate so I back off with him.

and as for your last question....I've talked to SCB..... need I go into details?

Why do you think that a Remembrance of Civilians killed who have lost their lives should be commemorated 365 -In my opinion knowing how people are it would only detract from a special Day to Remember those that lost their lives and were innocents to the conflict.

And yes I do support this fully.

Retired_Can_Soldier

#192

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 15th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

RCS, well, he's too delicate so I back off with him.

And what in the hell

do you mean by that?

CDNBear

#193

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 15th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

and as for your last question....I've talked to SCB..... need I go into details?

LOL, nope.

And thank you.

gerryh

#194

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 15th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

And what in the hell do you mean by that?

It's ok RCS, don't you worry your big bald head about it. Drink your milk and eat your cookies.

Goober

#195

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 15th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

And what in the hell do you mean by that?

Judging by the photo the bloom has fallen from the flower.

In Between Man

#196

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 16th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB

They're biased.

Neutrality does not equal objectivity. Just because someone doesn't have a neutral position, doesn't necessarily mean they can't provide the objective facts. For example, survivors of the Holocaust who wrote of their experiences certainly were not neutral bystanders. They believed passionately that the Nazis were wrong, and they were driven to record their experiences so the world would never forget the Holocaust and, hopefully, never repeat it. Did their passion or their agenda cause them to bend the facts? Not necessarily. In fact, their passion may have produced the opposite effect. While passion may induce some people to exaggerate, it may drive others to be all the more meticulous and accurate so as not to compromise the credibility of the message they wish to communicate.

Quote:

Tell me, where in the communist manifesto does it say kill the opposition and terrorize populations? Its not in there.

How many people live in the communist manifesto!? How many live in that piece of paper!? Your defense of the communist manifesto, and claim that victims of communist regimes are biased exaggerators, is an attempt to deflect -- away from communism.

Quote:

Whereas with religion one can find direct quotes from various holy books that promote murder, slavery and tyranny.

We were discussing communism, not Islam.

MHz

#197

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Nov 16th, 2011

Did they cancel next year's remembrance?
Anybody ever lance/harvest any of those poppy bulbs for the painkillers for use in the war(s)?

In Between Man

#198

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

It's past time to start "remembering" the important things. Remembering what those brave men in WWI were told. That they were fighting the "war to end all wars" to ensure peace for their family's and future generations. It's past time to remember and make those words more than the hollow words that they have been up to now. It's past time to make it so that those brave men, and boys, that fought and died from 1914 to 1918 did not sacrifice their lives for naught.

The desire to all end conflict is more appropriately acknowledged on Christmas day, rather than November 11th.

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Blackleaf

#199

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Poppy Day does not glorify war. It is merely a commemoration of all those brave troops who have given their lives for Britain (or, in Canada, for Canada), since WWI. It is to these troops that Britain (despite the best efforts of the EU) and Canada owe their freedom and democracy. It is our chance to thank those troops for giving their lives so that we can be free.

Cliffy

#200

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf

Poppy Day does not glorify war. It is merely a commemoration of all those brave troops who have given their lives for Britain (or, in Canada, for Canada), since WWI. It is to these troops that Britain (despite the best efforts of the EU) and Canada owe their freedom and democracy. It is our chance to thank those troops for giving their lives so that we can be free.

It is becoming more and more evident that they died in vain. War is eternal, it would seem, and we have become prisoners of those who profit from it. We have become nothing more than the fodder for the machine and most would die for that privilege. Freedom is an illusion just like democracy. Meanwhile our ability to afford living shrinks while our masters grow richer. And yet the sheeple support this bondage and their masters right to lord over them by mocking those who are trying to free us from that bondage, by calling down those who would wake them up from their stupor.

We have become comfortably numb.

Spade

#201

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf

Poppy Day does not glorify war. It is merely a commemoration of all those brave troops who have given their lives for Britain (or, in Canada, for Canada), since WWI. It is to these troops that Britain (despite the best efforts of the EU) and Canada owe their freedom and democracy. It is our chance to thank those troops for giving their lives so that we can be free.

When did Britain become a democracy?

petros

#202

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Hail Morpheus!

Cliffy

#203

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Spade

When did Britain become a democracy?

When was the last time Canada one?

Spade

#204

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

When was the last time Canada one?

When we were a colony of Britain? We've still colonial status, but we've switched empires.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

Hail Morpheus!

"To sleep, perchance to dream-
ay, there's the rub."
- from Bill S's Hamlet

Cliffy

#205

Re: Remembrance day forgotten

Dec 10th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Spade

When we were a colony of Britain? We've still colonial status, but we've switched empires.

"To sleep, perchance to dream-
ay, there's the rub."
- from Bill S's Hamlet

The Empire to which we are subservient knows no borders or political alliance.

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