#1Jun 23rd, 2011
A First Encounter
#3
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Jun 23rd, 2011
Yeah....the mirror was great......covering it with a leaf... 
Wonderful stuff.
Wonderful stuff.
#4
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Jun 23rd, 2011
Thanks for posting this! Thoroughly enjoyed...The mirror was certainly the best...
#5
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Jun 23rd, 2011
I remember my first encounter with white people. Edgar Winter. He glows in the dark. Freaked me right out
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Jun 24th, 2011
Totally shameless bump, as it deserves it....
Wonderful stuff.
Wonderful stuff.
#7
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Jun 24th, 2011
While it's very interesting and touching to see I have to wonder of the innocence lost. This tribe will never be the same now, well after the 1976 encounter and my guess is there will be even more evangelistic missionaries looking to convert them to their religion. I've done a little looking around and I can't find anything on how the tribe is doing since then.
The look of wonder and naivety is endearing though.
The look of wonder and naivety is endearing though.
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#8 Top Rated PostRe: A First Encounter
Jun 24th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven
Yup, they are probably as hooped as the rest of us. Damn do gooders! they really mess up the Creator's children with their self righteousness.While it's very interesting and touching to see I have to wonder of the innocence lost. This tribe will never be the same now, well after the 1976 encounter and my guess is there will be even more evangelistic missionaries looking to convert them to their religion. I've done a little looking around and I can't find anything on how the tribe is doing since then.
The look of wonder and naivety is endearing though.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven
While it's very interesting and touching to see I have to wonder of the innocence lost. This tribe will never be the same now, well after the 1976 encounter and my guess is there will be even more evangelistic missionaries looking to convert them to their religion. I've done a little looking around and I can't find anything on how the tribe is doing since then.
The look of wonder and naivety is endearing though.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
Okay guys.....let's not get carried away. Yup, they are probably as hooped as the rest of us. Damn do gooders! they really mess up the Creator's children with their self righteousness.
I enjoyed this vid as much as anyone.....I found it intellectually and emotionally stimulating......
But, these people are not Adam and Eve, and the jungles of New Guinea are not the Garden of Eden, and the white man is not a snake presenting them the fatal apple.
The tribesman of New Guinea were violent, war-like, and often cannibals. Their average lifespan in their natural state would have been somewhere around 30 to 35 years. A person of 50 would have been ancient.
Their attitude in the vid is the attitude of the warrior, used to combat.....or did you not notice the advance group of four heavily armed men??? And no, they weren't merely hunting.....did you catch the guy with his bow in his left hand, arrow in the same hand ready to be noched, and war hammer in his right, lashed to his wrist by a lanyard so he did not have to drop it to use the bow?
A fighting man.
Heaven knows I have no problem with armed men....it is our natural state......to be unarmed is unnataural........
but let's not turn these guys into something they are not.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Actually, the white missionaries are the snake. What is natural is for humans to live in nature, to be part of it, but civilized man is terrified of nature and is continually trying to conquer and control it. That is what is unnatural. The missionaries offer magic beans to replace their innate connection to their environment. Just because they appear barbaric and uncivilized is a judgement we put on them and has nothing to do with the reality of their existence. As simple as their lives may seem to us, they are rich in so many other ways. So their lives are short. They are probably full in so many ways that we can't fathom.Okay guys.....let's not get carried away.
I enjoyed this vid as much as anyone.....I found it intellectually and emotionally stimulating......
But, these people are not Adam and Eve, .................
Heaven knows I have no problem with armed men....it is our natural state......to be unarmed is unnataural........
but let's not turn these guys into something they are not.
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Jun 25th, 2011
Okay then. They are savages because of lack of contact with white man?
If you have the time look into the history of Liberia sometime.
Slaves from America were dropped off there in the 1850's and immediately enslaved the people living there and started plantations.
They learned that from where?
The Bibles they took with them to Africa after leaving America?
If you have the time look into the history of Liberia sometime.
Slaves from America were dropped off there in the 1850's and immediately enslaved the people living there and started plantations.
They learned that from where?
The Bibles they took with them to Africa after leaving America?
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
And who sold them to the white man in the first place?Okay then. They are savages because of lack of contact with white man?
If you have the time look into the history of Liberia sometime.
Slaves from America were dropped off there in the 1850's and immediately enslaved the people living there and started plantations.
They learned that from where?
The Bibles they took with them to Africa after leaving America?
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
An interesting question and one that many will find uncomfortable in answering.And who sold them to the white man in the first place?
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
Slavery is one of the oldest institutions known to man. Just about every society engaged in it in one form or another. The same with cannibalism. Some decided it wasn't civilized to engage in such practices and some too longer to come to that conclusion, some still haven't. So what? An interesting question and one that many will find uncomfortable in answering.
Do you really think slavery is dead? Just look at your monthly bills, your mortgage payments. Slavery is alive and well in the world, even yours.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
.. And so, if the 'natural order' is founded on the notion that the strong survive and/or dominate the weak; why is it wrong for one culture (or demographic in society) to apply that premise but OK for others?Slavery is one of the oldest institutions known to man. Just about every society engaged in it in one form or another. The same with cannibalism. Some decided it wasn't civilized to engage in such practices and some too longer to come to that conclusion, some still haven't. So what?
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
I can opt-out of this cycle voluntarily.... By definition, I am not a slave.Do you really think slavery is dead? Just look at your monthly bills, your mortgage payments. Slavery is alive and well in the world, even yours.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
And the philosophy that had most to do with the elimination of both practices was.......Christianity.Slavery is one of the oldest institutions known to man. Just about every society engaged in it in one form or another. The same with cannibalism. Some decided it wasn't civilized to engage in such practices and some too longer to come to that conclusion, some still haven't. So what?
Do you really think slavery is dead? Just look at your monthly bills, your mortgage payments. Slavery is alive and well in the world, even yours.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
When you enter a contract, it is NOT slavery.Slavery is one of the oldest institutions known to man. Just about every society engaged in it in one form or another. The same with cannibalism. Some decided it wasn't civilized to engage in such practices and some too longer to come to that conclusion, some still haven't. So what?
Do you really think slavery is dead? Just look at your monthly bills, your mortgage payments. Slavery is alive and well in the world, even yours.
But it is a 'brilliant' left-wing/anarchist talking point.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
JewsAnd who sold them to the white man in the first place?
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
Go edit it then.It's in Wiki... It must be true
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
That's the problem, anyone can.Go edit it then.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Actually, I suggest you READ it....lolGo edit it then.
No editing necessary.
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#25Re: A First Encounter
Jun 25th, 2011
Children, children, let us stop this silly argument, now and forever!
We all know that all humans who are not designated as Caucasians are innocent, they never had a problem with their neighbours, they never killed, they never lied, they loved everybody, they were never anything but paragons of virtue, until the evil WHITE MAN came along.
You know those EVIL white men who stole inventions, music and literature from them, those EVIL white men who treated their women like chattel, those EVIL white men who created medicines and diseases to kill everyone not WHITE.
ALL EVIL COMES FROM THE WHITE MAN! Especially those who are heterosexual!
We all know that all humans who are not designated as Caucasians are innocent, they never had a problem with their neighbours, they never killed, they never lied, they loved everybody, they were never anything but paragons of virtue, until the evil WHITE MAN came along.
You know those EVIL white men who stole inventions, music and literature from them, those EVIL white men who treated their women like chattel, those EVIL white men who created medicines and diseases to kill everyone not WHITE.
ALL EVIL COMES FROM THE WHITE MAN! Especially those who are heterosexual!
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
I did. They traded slaves all over the ****ing globe except the USA? Yeah ****ing right!Actually, I suggest you READ it....lol
No editing necessary.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Man, you Jew-haters really do require psychological evaluation...........what the heck do Jews have to do with New Guinea in the bloody first place??????I did. They traded slaves all over the ****ing globe except the USA? Yeah ****ing right!
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Jun 25th, 2011
Thanks for the neg, POS!
Coming from you, it is proof that my post was true or funny or both.
Coming from you, it is proof that my post was true or funny or both.
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Do you consider Voodoo a valid Christian religion? I certainly don't and I don't consider Darbyists a valid branch of Christianity either the same way I don't consider Mormons as Christians. Why would I want to believe that Hasidim is as valid branch of Judaism?Man, you Jew-haters really do require psychological evaluation...........
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Jun 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
It's a sad world we live in when one lacks a real answer, they default to : When in doubt, blame the Jews.Man, you Jew-haters really do require psychological evaluation...........what the heck do Jews have to do with New Guinea in the bloody first place??????
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