April 14th, 2008, 02:16 PM
Quoting Lester
Also, it occured to me once I'd replied to this that feeding downed animals back to animals is the way most disease spreads. presumably, our food supply isn't downed animals, although, that has been shown to happen. But, then we're at as much risk as the pigs getting it in their feed are.
feeding scraps of pig to a pig is not a good idea, this is how mad cow disease proliferates.
April 14th, 2008, 02:20 PM
Quoting Lester
cannibalism is actually the most effective way of spreading it, and has happened in humans. Yum.
If people can get mad cow disease, so can pigs. The people who have been afflicted with it didn't get it by eating other people.
April 14th, 2008, 02:37 PM
Quoting Lester
Yep. But mainly by downed livestock being ground up for feed. The instances of it being on the plate in your local diner are pretty few and far between. The risk there is minimal.
Hannabal Lecters aside, It's still primarily caused by infected livestock
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April 18th, 2008, 05:46 AM
Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE; Mad Cow Disease)
Eating the livers of carnivores causes loopy loops as well, so I've cut back on the lions and tigers....
Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE; Mad Cow Disease)
Eating the livers of carnivores causes loopy loops as well, so I've cut back on the lions and tigers....
April 18th, 2008, 08:10 AM
You just wished it upon others.
Quoting einmensch
Made what up? You never said you've ever gone hungry a day in your life.
I doubt anyone who's experienced lengthy hunger in their lives would wish it upon anyone, even *if* they're mouthy. --was your post--I doubt --does that not mean that you feel that I made it up?
You just wished it upon others.
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Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
April 18th, 2008, 08:26 AM
Quoting Gitaboo: "Years ago when I was in the U.K., I sort of liked how many of the folk I knew went to the market regularly and kept less in their fridges""
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We do that. Not every day, but often.
Being retired, it's a chance to get out and about, talk to folks, pick up fresh veggies, have a coffee somewhere, go to car lots and harass the salespeople.
Unfortunately, a lot of folks, being like hamsters on a wheel, speed to the food store, run through the aisles, grab the groceries, speed home and eat em, and never taste them, nor reflect on the wonderful corporate farm from whence they came.
......been there, done it.
But no, we waste very little food. Our rats have moved out, since they were starving. Sucks to be them. Mice are still here. They don't require the same quantity. Bastards.
Quoting Gitaboo: "Years ago when I was in the U.K., I sort of liked how many of the folk I knew went to the market regularly and kept less in their fridges""
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We do that. Not every day, but often.
Being retired, it's a chance to get out and about, talk to folks, pick up fresh veggies, have a coffee somewhere, go to car lots and harass the salespeople.
Unfortunately, a lot of folks, being like hamsters on a wheel, speed to the food store, run through the aisles, grab the groceries, speed home and eat em, and never taste them, nor reflect on the wonderful corporate farm from whence they came.
......been there, done it.But no, we waste very little food. Our rats have moved out, since they were starving. Sucks to be them. Mice are still here. They don't require the same quantity. Bastards.
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April 18th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Hey Nugg how's it goin eh...?
I can't of course speak for anyone but me. I shop once a month...when my pension cheque comes in. I have to add ten bucks for the cab to get home since I can't carry all that stuff. I don't have the luxury of a widely varied diet because this nations people believe that the elderly and the infirm should be on bended-knee for whatever pittance their given..so cheese is out, fresh vegetables are in (in limited quantities) as are fresh fruit. Meat is limited to hamburger and a majority of my diet is pasta and high carbohydrate foods.
It's not really important or interesting to anyone anyway since I'm just an old fart on his way out so the attitude that it isn't important what an old dude eats...
Hey Nugg how's it goin eh...?
I can't of course speak for anyone but me. I shop once a month...when my pension cheque comes in. I have to add ten bucks for the cab to get home since I can't carry all that stuff. I don't have the luxury of a widely varied diet because this nations people believe that the elderly and the infirm should be on bended-knee for whatever pittance their given..so cheese is out, fresh vegetables are in (in limited quantities) as are fresh fruit. Meat is limited to hamburger and a majority of my diet is pasta and high carbohydrate foods.
It's not really important or interesting to anyone anyway since I'm just an old fart on his way out so the attitude that it isn't important what an old dude eats...
April 18th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Quoting MikeyDB
I wish I were closer Mikey.
It's not really important or interesting to anyone anyway since I'm just an old fart on his way out so the attitude that it isn't important what an old dude eats...
Clever Clogs
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Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 18th, 2008, 05:01 PM
Quoting Nuggler
But no, we waste very little food. Our rats have moved out, since they were starving. Sucks to be them. Mice are still here. They don't require the same quantity. Bastards.
Quit buying Cat food- That will take care of the miceBut no, we waste very little food. Our rats have moved out, since they were starving. Sucks to be them. Mice are still here. They don't require the same quantity. Bastards.
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Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
April 18th, 2008, 08:33 PM
All jokes aside, I wish people would pay more attention to what occurring on our planet concerning food.
Try watching "Global Currents" documentary on our food. It is a bit sobering to put it mildly.
Um, btw, it's attitudes like yours, gerryh, that enable these large corporations to manipulate and warp our lifestyles just in order to make profits. I sincerely hope you and people like you wake up one day and grow up.
All jokes aside, I wish people would pay more attention to what occurring on our planet concerning food.
Try watching "Global Currents" documentary on our food. It is a bit sobering to put it mildly.
Quote:
Global Currents
Global Currents
Spring 2008 Season Premieres Schedule:
(*Broadcast schedules are subject to change, please check local listings.)
Hijacked Future - Premieres March 22 *Encore presentation*: May 3
While our industrial system of agriculture is providing abundance and variety today, this
Global Currents documentary warns us that it’s an unsustainable system that will not be
able to nourish and provide for us and our grandchildren in the future. It’s a system that
literally runs on oil, from fertilizers and pesticides, to the trucks and planes that transport
food. And the source of our food – seeds – is being hijacked by a handful of corporations
from the farmers who have for millennia, grown and saved them.Hijacked Future - Premieres March 22 *Encore presentation*: May 3
While our industrial system of agriculture is providing abundance and variety today, this
Global Currents documentary warns us that it’s an unsustainable system that will not be
able to nourish and provide for us and our grandchildren in the future. It’s a system that
literally runs on oil, from fertilizers and pesticides, to the trucks and planes that transport
food. And the source of our food – seeds – is being hijacked by a handful of corporations
Um, btw, it's attitudes like yours, gerryh, that enable these large corporations to manipulate and warp our lifestyles just in order to make profits. I sincerely hope you and people like you wake up one day and grow up.
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Alberta, Canada
Location: Alberta, Canada
April 18th, 2008, 09:01 PM
My money..I EARNED it... I wanna buy more than I need and throw out that which I don't use....my business and no one elses..... it's not like I am living off the public tit.
Quoting L Gilbert
Um, btw, it's attitudes like yours, gerryh, that enable these large corporations to manipulate and warp our lifestyles just in order to make profits. I sincerely hope you and people like you wake up one day and grow up.
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Um, btw, it's attitudes like yours, gerryh, that enable these large corporations to manipulate and warp our lifestyles just in order to make profits. I sincerely hope you and people like you wake up one day and grow up.
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My money..I EARNED it... I wanna buy more than I need and throw out that which I don't use....my business and no one elses..... it's not like I am living off the public tit.
Hangeth in there, eh. April 18th, 2008, 09:29 PM
It's changing the mindset from seeing it as just food, to seeing it as money, that's crucial. Because once we see it as money, literally throwing dollars into the trash, then we're more likely to stop our wasteful habits, and save that money for something that will benefit others.
Like gerry says though, it's not something you can really force. While I don't think he's being highly diplomatic about it (ha... love ya gerr), he is showing the frank reality of many people's attitudes about constant nannying.
Quoting gerryh My money..I EARNED it... I wanna buy more than I need and throw out that which I don't use....my business and no one elses..... it's not like I am living off the public tit.
See, I think that thinking is indicative of why people go hungry, but it's not because gerry's throwing food away, it's because gerry's got enough money that he's actually willing to throw that away. It's an inequality in wealth distribution that makes it impossible to feed the poor of distant lands, not an inequality of food distribution. If gerry doesn't buy too much and throw it away, sad as it is to say, the grocery store will throw it out anyway. That food, in North America, is going to get tossed in the garbage regardless. My money..I EARNED it... I wanna buy more than I need and throw out that which I don't use....my business and no one elses..... it's not like I am living off the public tit.
It's changing the mindset from seeing it as just food, to seeing it as money, that's crucial. Because once we see it as money, literally throwing dollars into the trash, then we're more likely to stop our wasteful habits, and save that money for something that will benefit others.
Like gerry says though, it's not something you can really force. While I don't think he's being highly diplomatic about it (ha... love ya gerr), he is showing the frank reality of many people's attitudes about constant nannying.
