Super Genius
Posts: 1,041 
Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Quoting eh1eh
*sigh* that is true and when it comes down to the bottom line which is their own ass, they couldn't care less which party they personally belong to so long as they do well. Just cross the floor folks. It's all a game. I hate them all. And I hate that I hate them all.
Ya Doc, it's a good thing the Liberals aren't (sponsership) greedy. lol The colour of the election sign has no bearing on the net outcome of any party's goverance. They are all scum sucking greed monsters out for a free ride on your dollar. And they have all prooven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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October 14th, 2007, 05:39 PM
into their own end game....
then you get a guy like colpy ..a perfectly normal internet addict with lots to say decideds to give them money, and has no real clue as to why he he feels the need to....Someone call the bat copter and chopper him out to safety.....
hey colpy wanna stay at me crib...me and sandy will diaper ya up and show ya how to enjoy yourself with real sex with a real couple....
Quoting Sal
Man have you got that one right ...It's become the Great canadain guilt trip....They always let us down....always....some like harper are sooooo
I hate them all. And I hate that I hate them all.
into their own end game....
then you get a guy like colpy ..a perfectly normal internet addict with lots to say decideds to give them money, and has no real clue as to why he he feels the need to....Someone call the bat copter and chopper him out to safety.....
hey colpy wanna stay at me crib...me and sandy will diaper ya up and show ya how to enjoy yourself with real sex with a real couple....
Council Member
Posts: 1,897
Location: Quebec
Location: Quebec
October 14th, 2007, 06:13 PM
In my county the Conservative came in , one of the few in Quebec. On the provincial side the ADQ almost cam in by a couple of hundred votes behind. To me this shows the discontent of the same ol same ol.
I voted Conservate the last time because they had the better chance of beating the Bloc.
I'll be checking the polls again before the election, I haven't voted for my choice in ages , I've voted against the Bloc and the PQ eversince i could. As time passes by tho thats my only option is voting against a party never for and it will seem that is going to be the case for a long while.
The heavy issues like gun controll and the Afgan war , why can't that be held as a referendum while we are at the polls , like they do in the States. It would save money and give a clear voice for the next Government.
In my county the Conservative came in , one of the few in Quebec. On the provincial side the ADQ almost cam in by a couple of hundred votes behind. To me this shows the discontent of the same ol same ol.
I voted Conservate the last time because they had the better chance of beating the Bloc.
I'll be checking the polls again before the election, I haven't voted for my choice in ages , I've voted against the Bloc and the PQ eversince i could. As time passes by tho thats my only option is voting against a party never for and it will seem that is going to be the case for a long while.
The heavy issues like gun controll and the Afgan war , why can't that be held as a referendum while we are at the polls , like they do in the States. It would save money and give a clear voice for the next Government.
Senate Member
Posts: 5,586
Location: Saint John, N.B.
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October 14th, 2007, 06:18 PM
I do believe most of the people that get into politics do so for all the right reasons.....they want to serve and change society for the better......but the system and human nature don't make it easy.
The first thing I learned about politics was Parties with Principles LOSE. It is simple, really, if you believe in anything enough to insist on it, you alienate some people. The more principle you exhibit, the more people you alienate, the LESS likely it is you get elected. Therefore it is ALWAYS a matter of picking the best out of a group of unprincipled SOBs, or wasting your vote on those who will later claim a "moral victory"........with no seats.
At the moment, the ONLY party that shows the slightest tendency towards sanity, at least in my reality
, is the Conservatives.
As for the diapers and real sex with a real couple....I'm not sure this is the proper place for you to speak of your fantasies about me..........
Quoting DocDred
HMMMM. Let me say this about that...........
Man have you got that one right ...It's become the Great canadain guilt trip....They always let us down....always....some like harper are sooooo
into their own end game....
then you get a guy like colpy ..a perfectly normal internet addict with lots to say decideds to give them money, and has no real clue as to why he he feels the need to....Someone call the bat copter and chopper him out to safety.....
hey colpy wanna stay at me crib...me and sandy will diaper ya up and show ya how to enjoy yourself with real sex with a real couple....
into their own end game....
then you get a guy like colpy ..a perfectly normal internet addict with lots to say decideds to give them money, and has no real clue as to why he he feels the need to....Someone call the bat copter and chopper him out to safety.....
hey colpy wanna stay at me crib...me and sandy will diaper ya up and show ya how to enjoy yourself with real sex with a real couple....
I do believe most of the people that get into politics do so for all the right reasons.....they want to serve and change society for the better......but the system and human nature don't make it easy.
The first thing I learned about politics was Parties with Principles LOSE. It is simple, really, if you believe in anything enough to insist on it, you alienate some people. The more principle you exhibit, the more people you alienate, the LESS likely it is you get elected. Therefore it is ALWAYS a matter of picking the best out of a group of unprincipled SOBs, or wasting your vote on those who will later claim a "moral victory"........with no seats.
At the moment, the ONLY party that shows the slightest tendency towards sanity, at least in my reality
, is the Conservatives.As for the diapers and real sex with a real couple....I'm not sure this is the proper place for you to speak of your fantasies about me..........
Clever Clogs
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October 14th, 2007, 06:50 PM
I seem to remember people writing Dion off in the Liberal leadership campaign too. When the chips are down he rises to the occasion, I respect him more than any politician in Canada in the last twenty years.
Harper is too much of a Neo-conman and Layton helped put him power last election. I predict a Dion minority government in the next election.
I seem to remember people writing Dion off in the Liberal leadership campaign too. When the chips are down he rises to the occasion, I respect him more than any politician in Canada in the last twenty years.
Harper is too much of a Neo-conman and Layton helped put him power last election. I predict a Dion minority government in the next election.
Electoral Member
Posts: 344
October 14th, 2007, 07:52 PM
Just because you build a bridge doesn't mean its open borders, just means it is easier to work together than it would be if you had to use a boat.
I find it really funny how you think the liberals are the "rightful government of Canada" it is that kind of B.S. that has made a lot of people vote conservative, the entitlement leads to corruption. Just look at Dion announcing if he were king he'd greatly reduce corporate taxes, First off tax breaks all around, are a great idea, and lord knows the corporations really need it in Canada, but why is it that the liberals generally focus on large corporate tax breaks where the conservatives will generally give tax breaks that are all encompassing, making things as fair as possible while still helping to promote prosperity.
Look up the stats on liberal financing before and after the corporate donations were banned. Funny how the liberals lost so much of their income.
You know why the conservative party is so rich? Because we conservatives really do care about our country and we are willing to put our money where our mouth is. So many of us donate what we can, and that allows our party to have a surplus rather than a deficit.
Maybe you don't realize that the only reason the conservatives have so much, is because us "dumb dumbs" gladly give it to our party, which btw is why now that we are united we were able to topple the self important liberal party, and it's only getting better.
Quoting DocDred
Yeah, so what are you going to say when the next US president is a democrat and Harper still has a good relationship with the US administration. Oh wait... maybe he's actually a good leader for Canada, who knows where to build bridges...
Lol you got it mate...but i would rather the liberals get colpy's money if he wants to waste it via the political way....i mean at least they would be politicing all comfydo rather than the bushco puppets....hell you don't really want to feed THEM meat do you?
it's so silly toi think yer hard earned is going to a anything but a better room service on the campaign trail....
Look Liberals are the only human choice in the arena of filth....
At least there is a glimmer of crumbs to be had by people other than The rich the mafia owned road comapnies and various friends who want to own a toll highway built with taxpayers money and sold to them for peanuts...like mike Harrass did..
it's so silly toi think yer hard earned is going to a anything but a better room service on the campaign trail....
Look Liberals are the only human choice in the arena of filth....
At least there is a glimmer of crumbs to be had by people other than The rich the mafia owned road comapnies and various friends who want to own a toll highway built with taxpayers money and sold to them for peanuts...like mike Harrass did..
Just because you build a bridge doesn't mean its open borders, just means it is easier to work together than it would be if you had to use a boat.
I find it really funny how you think the liberals are the "rightful government of Canada" it is that kind of B.S. that has made a lot of people vote conservative, the entitlement leads to corruption. Just look at Dion announcing if he were king he'd greatly reduce corporate taxes, First off tax breaks all around, are a great idea, and lord knows the corporations really need it in Canada, but why is it that the liberals generally focus on large corporate tax breaks where the conservatives will generally give tax breaks that are all encompassing, making things as fair as possible while still helping to promote prosperity.
Look up the stats on liberal financing before and after the corporate donations were banned. Funny how the liberals lost so much of their income.
You know why the conservative party is so rich? Because we conservatives really do care about our country and we are willing to put our money where our mouth is. So many of us donate what we can, and that allows our party to have a surplus rather than a deficit.
Maybe you don't realize that the only reason the conservatives have so much, is because us "dumb dumbs" gladly give it to our party, which btw is why now that we are united we were able to topple the self important liberal party, and it's only getting better.
October 14th, 2007, 08:13 PM
Seems the local Conservative riding here where I live is siding with Bill Casey. They voted to reinstate him as the candidate for this riding. Conservatives here want to see him back. Hell I think most want to see him back, regardless of political stripe. He showed some spine and stood up for all of NS, when no other MP's from his party would.
Now Harper has the choice. He can remain hard-nosed and authoritarian, or he can be conciliatory and respect the wishes of the Conservatives in this riding.
Harper would do well to respect the constituents here. If Casey runs as an Independent, Harper will lose this seat. Worst case scenario for Harper would be a splintering of the vote which could hand it to another party.
Seems the local Conservative riding here where I live is siding with Bill Casey. They voted to reinstate him as the candidate for this riding. Conservatives here want to see him back. Hell I think most want to see him back, regardless of political stripe. He showed some spine and stood up for all of NS, when no other MP's from his party would.
Now Harper has the choice. He can remain hard-nosed and authoritarian, or he can be conciliatory and respect the wishes of the Conservatives in this riding.
Harper would do well to respect the constituents here. If Casey runs as an Independent, Harper will lose this seat. Worst case scenario for Harper would be a splintering of the vote which could hand it to another party.
Clever Clogs
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October 14th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Great leader you've got there Graeme, since when do Canadians support totrure and extrajudicial torture.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ghanistan/home
I guess if you support totalitarianism then Harper is your man because that's the direction he's already taking the country even with a minority.
Oh I forgot that little pamphlet the conservatives handed out to their MPs telling them how to disrupt the Canadian Parliment to stop it from functioning. What the hell would happen with a conservative majority, would they dissolve Parliment altogether?
Great leader you've got there Graeme, since when do Canadians support totrure and extrajudicial torture.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ghanistan/home
Quote:
He also supports the Uribe government in Columbia which backs the Paramilitaries who've caused so many civilian deaths in that country. Makes you wonder what kind of country he would turn Canada into with a majority. The conservative MP in my riding has decided on his own he should be able to represent another MPs constituents and has basically offered to influence civil servants for conservative support. Then we had the nice little incident at the Quebec summit a few months ago.
The Harper government knew from its own officials that prisoners held by Afghan security forces faced the possibility of torture, abuse and extrajudicial killing, The Globe and Mail has learned.
But the government has eradicated every single reference to torture and abuse in prison from a heavily blacked-out version of a report prepared by Canadian diplomats in Kabul and released under an access to information request.
Initially, the government denied the existence of the report, responding in writing that "no such report on human-rights performance in other countries exists." After complaints to the Access to Information Commissioner, it released a heavily edited version this week.
Among the sentences blacked out by the Foreign Affairs Department in the report's summary is "Extrajudicial executions, disappearances, torture and detention without trial are all too common," according to full passages of the report obtained independently by The Globe.
But the government has eradicated every single reference to torture and abuse in prison from a heavily blacked-out version of a report prepared by Canadian diplomats in Kabul and released under an access to information request.
Initially, the government denied the existence of the report, responding in writing that "no such report on human-rights performance in other countries exists." After complaints to the Access to Information Commissioner, it released a heavily edited version this week.
Among the sentences blacked out by the Foreign Affairs Department in the report's summary is "Extrajudicial executions, disappearances, torture and detention without trial are all too common," according to full passages of the report obtained independently by The Globe.
I guess if you support totalitarianism then Harper is your man because that's the direction he's already taking the country even with a minority.
Oh I forgot that little pamphlet the conservatives handed out to their MPs telling them how to disrupt the Canadian Parliment to stop it from functioning. What the hell would happen with a conservative majority, would they dissolve Parliment altogether?
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Location: Calgary
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October 14th, 2007, 08:32 PM
Time will tell as to whether or not an election will be called because of the speech from the throne, however, I would not underestimate the Liberals' ability to hold their noses and vote for the speech and then defeat the government at some point down the road when things will be more favourable for them.
Time will tell as to whether or not an election will be called because of the speech from the throne, however, I would not underestimate the Liberals' ability to hold their noses and vote for the speech and then defeat the government at some point down the road when things will be more favourable for them.
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October 14th, 2007, 08:42 PM
Man no wonder yer giving them money!!!!
Quoting Colpy
My god man listen to what you are saying!!!!!
HMMMM. Let me say this about that...........
I do believe most of the people that get into politics do so for all the right reasons
.....
they want to serve and change society for the better
......but the system and human nature don't make it easy.
-)
I do believe most of the people that get into politics do so for all the right reasons.....they want to serve and change society for the better......but the system and human nature don't make it easy.-)
Man no wonder yer giving them money!!!!
October 14th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Quoting dj03
Of course, they are politicians...that's what politicians do.
Time will tell as to whether or not an election will be called because of the speech from the throne, however, I would not underestimate the Liberals' ability to hold their noses and vote for the speech and then defeat the government at some point down the road when things will be more favourable for them.
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October 14th, 2007, 09:01 PM
I listened to Question Period on CTV today and Dion is ready for an election.
When you look at Harper’s record there is more flip-flopping then a freshly caught fish.
Harper reminds me of George Bush Jr. where he is clearly not in control of his party and letting the inner circle or backroom boys set policy.
Harper still remembers Stockwell Day’s in the leadership roll when he decided to take the power away from the backroom boys; they turned on him and ripped away his position by having a leadership race.
I am sure half of the new Conservative policies Harper did not agree but his hunger to be the leader prevents him of being a true leader.
Dion is the real deal and he will be a good leader because he sets the agenda his MP’s follow and Canadians will benefit and he is the only one that understands the people of Quebec.
We have to remember that the Reform/Alliance/Conservative party tried to go around the people of Quebec and tried in vain to get Ontario on board and did not recognize Quebec right to exist.
Canadians saw the Conservative Party harpooning of the Kyoto just to be on the good side of America.
Changing the mission of the military in Afghanistan from humanitarian to combative.
Banning the media from repatriation of our fallen soldiers.
Restricting the Prime Minister to answer media’s questions.
And the list goes on.
Is this the Prime Minister Canadians want in a majority government?
We gave the new Conservative party to do a better job and they could not rise to the occasion and they never will.
I listened to Question Period on CTV today and Dion is ready for an election.
When you look at Harper’s record there is more flip-flopping then a freshly caught fish.
Harper reminds me of George Bush Jr. where he is clearly not in control of his party and letting the inner circle or backroom boys set policy.
Harper still remembers Stockwell Day’s in the leadership roll when he decided to take the power away from the backroom boys; they turned on him and ripped away his position by having a leadership race.
I am sure half of the new Conservative policies Harper did not agree but his hunger to be the leader prevents him of being a true leader.
Dion is the real deal and he will be a good leader because he sets the agenda his MP’s follow and Canadians will benefit and he is the only one that understands the people of Quebec.
We have to remember that the Reform/Alliance/Conservative party tried to go around the people of Quebec and tried in vain to get Ontario on board and did not recognize Quebec right to exist.
Canadians saw the Conservative Party harpooning of the Kyoto just to be on the good side of America.
Changing the mission of the military in Afghanistan from humanitarian to combative.
Banning the media from repatriation of our fallen soldiers.
Restricting the Prime Minister to answer media’s questions.
And the list goes on.
Is this the Prime Minister Canadians want in a majority government?
We gave the new Conservative party to do a better job and they could not rise to the occasion and they never will.
October 14th, 2007, 09:13 PM
Quoting Liberalman
Harper reminds me of George Bush Jr. where he is clearly not in control of his party and letting the inner circle or backroom boys set policy.
Are you serious? Harper reminds me of a dictator. Very centralized power. Harper who once wrote that MP's should choose who chairs committees by secret ballot, only to turn around and appoint them as he saw fit once he became PM.Harper reminds me of George Bush Jr. where he is clearly not in control of his party and letting the inner circle or backroom boys set policy.
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October 14th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Harper stalled parliment so his dick head ideas would not be passed....i mean wow...ya spend and entire session getting bills ready to pass and then you stall parliment so they are dropped totally cause they is bad
Harper stalled parliment so his dick head ideas would not be passed....i mean wow...ya spend and entire session getting bills ready to pass and then you stall parliment so they are dropped totally cause they is bad
