Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 12:27 AM
One death, two borns.
Once my spirit was death after being born the first time, but now my spirit is alive, being born the second time.
But my flesh, dies onces only.
For the benefit of some, I am posting as requested.
Peace>>>AJ
One death, two borns.
Once my spirit was death after being born the first time, but now my spirit is alive, being born the second time.
But my flesh, dies onces only.
For the benefit of some, I am posting as requested.
Peace>>>AJ
Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 12:30 AM
I've been to those camps and I found them to be great.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting westmanguy
Excellent place to have learned about it.
I was born again when I was 8 years old.
Bible camp it happened at.
Bible camp it happened at.
I've been to those camps and I found them to be great.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 24th, 2007, 01:08 AM
No, I've been born only once. I have no memory of it, but it seems to have worked satisfactorily.
No, I've been born only once. I have no memory of it, but it seems to have worked satisfactorily.
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March 24th, 2007, 01:30 AM
Quoting westmanguy
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
You know darn well what were talking about Dexter.
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March 24th, 2007, 01:38 AM
Quoting Dexter Sinister
I think your tired, get some sleep, seeya tomorrow.
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
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March 24th, 2007, 01:42 AM
when you say born again are you talking about baptism?
when you say born again are you talking about baptism?
Super Genius
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March 24th, 2007, 02:10 AM
Quoting snowles
I’m not a fan either. I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven.
After just reading about its history and use, being born again seems like a rather silly cop-out to taking responsibility in one's self.
Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 04:07 AM
s243a
I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven._____________________
I dont think there is any heaven; obviously man has invented heaven out of hope, for his life has become a living hell, an endless conflict from birth to death, coming and going, making money, working endlessly. This life has become a turmoil, a travail of endless striving. One wonders if man, a human being, will ever live on this earth peacefully. Conflicts have been the way of our lifes - within the skin and outside the skin, in the area of the psyche and in the society which that psyche has created.
Can anyone describe heaven , what's heaven?
s243a
I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven._____________________
I dont think there is any heaven; obviously man has invented heaven out of hope, for his life has become a living hell, an endless conflict from birth to death, coming and going, making money, working endlessly. This life has become a turmoil, a travail of endless striving. One wonders if man, a human being, will ever live on this earth peacefully. Conflicts have been the way of our lifes - within the skin and outside the skin, in the area of the psyche and in the society which that psyche has created.
Can anyone describe heaven , what's heaven?
March 24th, 2007, 06:18 AM
Like it says in my signature,
At some point in time all men come to a realization, if they truly are growing, at this point they are being reborn.
It need not be the trademark of the Christian faith.
It can be as personal and as meaningful as necessary for the individual that has the realization.
My personal rebirth, was not borne of the Spirit of Jesus entering me, it was when I came to the self realization that I was on the wrong path. I chose to change direction.
This did not involve Christ or any other religious mechanization, it was a personally spiritual choice, my spirit.
In your case Dex, I am sure you have reached points in your life where you realized the direction you were going, would not lead you to the desired place. So you switched lanes and re-evaluated the course of action. No?
Is that not an action taken by a scientist?
Perhaps as either of you were growing up, you decided that your style, your actions, your way of doing things, wasn't getting you the desired effects. So you modified yourself to suit the needs of your feelings or thoughts. It may have been subconscious and taken sometime to come to froition or an overt act of self realization and instant change.
Could that not be seen as a being "reborn"?
Quoting Dexter Sinister
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
Quoting snowles
Dex, snowles...
After just reading about its history and use, being born again seems like a rather silly cop-out to taking responsibility in one's self.
Like it says in my signature,
At some point in time all men come to a realization, if they truly are growing, at this point they are being reborn.
It need not be the trademark of the Christian faith.
It can be as personal and as meaningful as necessary for the individual that has the realization.
My personal rebirth, was not borne of the Spirit of Jesus entering me, it was when I came to the self realization that I was on the wrong path. I chose to change direction.
This did not involve Christ or any other religious mechanization, it was a personally spiritual choice, my spirit.
In your case Dex, I am sure you have reached points in your life where you realized the direction you were going, would not lead you to the desired place. So you switched lanes and re-evaluated the course of action. No?
Is that not an action taken by a scientist?
Perhaps as either of you were growing up, you decided that your style, your actions, your way of doing things, wasn't getting you the desired effects. So you modified yourself to suit the needs of your feelings or thoughts. It may have been subconscious and taken sometime to come to froition or an overt act of self realization and instant change.
Could that not be seen as a being "reborn"?
Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 06:31 AM
This is going to sound like a joke , which is half right.
I felt reborn after a good hangover. The relief of pain in the noggin and stomach really makes you appreciate the little things. It doesn' always have to mean religoious or spiritual. That feel good sensation after turmoil.
This is going to sound like a joke , which is half right.
I felt reborn after a good hangover. The relief of pain in the noggin and stomach really makes you appreciate the little things. It doesn' always have to mean religoious or spiritual. That feel good sensation after turmoil.
Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 11:31 AM
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting Dexter Sinister
I believe you Dexter. For otherwise, I wouldn't be reading your post. But again, not yet. At least I don't see any evidence of it.
No, I've been born only once. I have no memory of it, but it seems to have worked satisfactorily.
Peace>>>AJ
I'm sure my mom would agree. If she had to give birth to me again now, it might hurt ALOT more.
Mighty Intellect
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March 24th, 2007, 11:41 AM
What exactly is being born again mean? It is that our spirits are death (Separated from God because of being in the flesh, thus dead spiritually) due to the flesh and must needs to be born again, not of the flesh but of Gods spirit, rather than Adam's.
What that entails is a membership into the celestial church of Jesus Christ and having the full benefits of the heavenly kingdom here on earth.
One can not know what that is until one experiences a re-birth. I know for instance that God is alive in me.
And my presence here with a attitude of compassion at any cost is not me, but God in me.
When I need anything, I call on Him, and in due time, He grants answers according to His will, not mine.
You can develope a personal relationship with Him that you can not get anywere and in any church.
Church helps in directing you there, but that's as far as it goes. It has to start from within first.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting talloola
The word "again" means something. Like dead once and then being born again?
How was "Born Again" born to begin with. Was it back in the 60's or?
What exactly is being born again mean? It is that our spirits are death (Separated from God because of being in the flesh, thus dead spiritually) due to the flesh and must needs to be born again, not of the flesh but of Gods spirit, rather than Adam's.
What that entails is a membership into the celestial church of Jesus Christ and having the full benefits of the heavenly kingdom here on earth.
One can not know what that is until one experiences a re-birth. I know for instance that God is alive in me.
And my presence here with a attitude of compassion at any cost is not me, but God in me.
When I need anything, I call on Him, and in due time, He grants answers according to His will, not mine.
You can develope a personal relationship with Him that you can not get anywere and in any church.
Church helps in directing you there, but that's as far as it goes. It has to start from within first.
Peace>>>AJ
