I was born again when I was 8 years old.
Bible camp it happened at.
You know darn well what were talking about Dexter.
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
After just reading about its history and use, being born again seems like a rather silly cop-out to taking responsibility in one's self.
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
After just reading about its history and use, being born again seems like a rather silly cop-out to taking responsibility in one's self.
No, I've been born only once. I have no memory of it, but it seems to have worked satisfactorily.
I'm sure my mom would agree. If she had to give birth to me again now, it might hurt ALOT more.How was "Born Again" born to begin with. Was it back in the 60's or?
I was born once...I think that was enough...
This is going to sound like a joke , which is half right.
I felt reborn after a good hangover. The relief of pain in the noggin and stomach really makes you appreciate the little things. It doesn' always have to mean religoious or spiritual. That feel good sensation after turmoil.
Yes, that is enough for this existence of the flesh. But still, you need to be born again from God to exist in the heavenly realm of membership in His church.
But, that comes after one has given oneself to believing in Jesus as our Lord and Savior.
What that would do for you, is change you from the inside out, to where your life will have LIFE.
Living breathing LIFE, which this world can not touch, but the heavenly can.
It doesn't matter if you abandoned God many years ago, I mean, what is time to God?
If you could live to be 1 million years old, He'd wait for you.
His love is so great, that there is absolutely nothing you can do cause Him to reject you to a none existent state.
How about that? I'd bet you, you will never hear that from any church: but only from Jesus Himself!
Peace>>>AJ
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I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven._____________________
I dont think there is any heaven; obviously man has invented heaven out of hope, for his life has become a living hell, an endless conflict from birth to death, coming and going, making money, working endlessly. This life has become a turmoil, a travail of endless striving. One wonders if man, a human being, will ever live on this earth peacefully. Conflicts have been the way of our lifes - within the skin and outside the skin, in the area of the psyche and in the society which that psyche has created.
Can anyone describe heaven , what's heaven?
Dex, snowles...
Like it says in my signature,
At some point in time all men come to a realization, if they truly are growing, at this point they are being reborn.
It need not be the trademark of the Christian faith.
It can be as personal and as meaningful as necessary for the individual that has the realization.
My personal rebirth, was not borne of the Spirit of Jesus entering me, it was when I came to the self realization that I was on the wrong path. I chose to change direction.
This did not involve Christ or any other religious mechanization, it was a personally spiritual choice, my spirit.
In your case Dex, I am sure you have reached points in your life where you realized the direction you were going, would not lead you to the desired place. So you switched lanes and re-evaluated the course of action. No?
Is that not an action taken by a scientist?
Perhaps as either of you were growing up, you decided that your style, your actions, your way of doing things, wasn't getting you the desired effects. So you modified yourself to suit the needs of your feelings or thoughts. It may have been subconscious and taken sometime to come to froition or an overt act of self realization and instant change.
Could that not be seen as a being "reborn"?
But I feel that I do have life. I think I have a very full life. Life is a challenge, there is no doubt, but I do still feel that I have a very full, rich, interesting life going here.
I am not athiest...I am agnostic...I don't know what to believe. I lean towards not believing...but, I just don't know. But I have no interest in pursuing any sort of "relationship" with Christ or god or anything like that. It just doesn't...make sense to me, ya know?
Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
I am.
s243a
I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven._____________________
I dont think there is any heaven; obviously man has invented heaven out of hope, for his life has become a living hell, an endless conflict from birth to death, coming and going, making money, working endlessly. This life has become a turmoil, a travail of endless striving. One wonders if man, a human being, will ever live on this earth peacefully. Conflicts have been the way of our lifes - within the skin and outside the skin, in the area of the psyche and in the society which that psyche has created.
Can anyone describe heaven , what's heaven?
s243a
I find it hard to believe that only people that are “saved” will go to heaven._____________________
I dont think there is any heaven; obviously man has invented heaven out of hope, for his life has become a living hell, an endless conflict from birth to death, coming and going, making money, working endlessly. This life has become a turmoil, a travail of endless striving. One wonders if man, a human being, will ever live on this earth peacefully. Conflicts have been the way of our lifes - within the skin and outside the skin, in the area of the psyche and in the society which that psyche has created.
Can anyone describe heaven , what's heaven?
when you say born again are you talking about baptism?
You have a good point there CDNBear! If a person comes to terms with his or hers relationship with the devine, that being whatever term one wants to use for it, and has a life changing experience to that of harming no one, hating no one and forgiving incessantly, then, that is evidence of being born again.
But, understand, that the real person who instigated this born again issue was Jesus. His words.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
No where else can you find that statment as coming from a true and proven source. And you can experience it yourself.
Peace>>>AJ